Name: ~ Fight Club.
Purpose: ~ The Fight Club is geared towards the training and advancement of its members in a dojo type infrastructure.
Members: ~ 6
Strictures:
Exclusive Membership: ~ You can only be in this club.
Limited Membership: ~ physical adepts only
Fraternity: ~ You're required to help other members if they ask for it.
Secrecy: ~ Generally to be a Fight Club member one must:
1} Be an adept who is chosen to join and comes of his or her own free will.
2} Be at least the minimum age (18).
3} Be of sound mind, body, soul, and have positive street cred.
4} Have 1 if not 2 references from current members.
Oath: ~ You will swear to follow and uphold our laws those laws are as follows:
First law: ~ no one talks about Fight Club.
Second law: ~ you can't turn down a fair fight.
Third law: ~ If you lose a fight you will lose gracefully so as not to dishonor the club.
Attendance: ~ Mandatory meetings every 3 months.
Resources/Dues: ~ High/1500 a month.
Patron: ~ None at this time.
Description & Customs: ~ Fight Club is an organization which has members of various ranks and abilities.
Ranks:
Entered Apprentice: ~ Any member who has yet to achieve an Initiate grade:
Bodog
Fellow Craft: ~ Any member who has achieved Initiate grades 1 or 2:
Jinx
Master Mason: ~ Any member who has achieved Initiate grades 3 or 4:
Perfect Master: ~ Any member who has achieved Initiate grades 5 or 6:
Grand Master: ~ Any member who has achieved Initiate grades 7 or 8:
Knight of the Dojo: ~ Any member who has achieved Initiate grades 9 or 10:
Master of Achievement: ~ Any member who has achieved Initiate grades 11 or greater:
Master of the Royal Secret: ~ This rank is limited to the Founding members:
Ganavio, Linmayu, Briefcase Chan, and John Smith
Due to the fact that the highest law is no one talks about Fight Club getting in requires an invitation. Members are allowed to bring outsiders to the attention of the founding members so they may decide weather or not someone should be invited to the club.
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| SO will there be magical groups for Missions? |
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| If so will it be a general one or will adepts get a seperate group from mages and shamans? |
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Oooh...faction-related magical groups...I like that. Seems like it could be a dangerous line to tread. Wonderfully evil idea.
As far as PC-created magical groups, perhaps there should be an e-mail list or something for Missions players (or we should just tie everyone up and make them post here!) I know I would enjoy the RP opportunities that would come with making a PC magical group. Is there currently anything existing that resembles a central database of SRM players? If not, I would be up for creating one.
I would also like to state for the record that SRM kicks ass, and that I enjoy hitting things with sticks.
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| As far as PC-created magical groups, perhaps there should be an e-mail list or something for Missions players (or we should just tie everyone up and make them post here!) |
Lin--beyond any Missions players that post here, you may want to try looking at CommandoHQ.com in the players section.
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Hmm haven't thought up a name but as Dunner may recall we worked out initiating my Troll adept at Gen Con using the group initiation and meditation ordeal. Sounds like a player adept group is already in the works here on this very board. What should we call ourselves? My adept is not strongly aligned with any faction though he is liked a little bit better than neutral by both the mafia families, the and the koshari and one other faction(cant remember right now). Seriously what should our name be? How about The Silent Brotherhood? Suggestions comments?
Mekalus: Which troll adept were you? I remember meeting several!
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I *might* also be interested in participating in such a group with my human adept... >.> as for a name I'll probably have better suggestions when I know more about who's going to be involved.
Could be more interesting to have a SUPER SEKRIT magical group...but of course we would not talk about that on the dumpshock forums...
Sshhh don't you know the best kept secrets are the ones every knows about?
BTW I was John Smith if that helps in knowing which Troll adept I was.
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Hey guys -- agree on a name, and the specifics of your strictures and I'll be more than happy to give you the go ahead.
Heya! This is the player of Briefcase Chan, and I'm pretty certain Chan met John Smith at Gencon... In fact, you might say you made an impression. ![]()
As a human adept, Chan'd definitely be interested in a society! Chalk him down as tentatively interested... (He's got his own ideas on rules, guidelines and feel, though. Should I suggest 'em here, or should we get the name and general idea, and work on the fly?)
Also, Chan would argue for a niftier name. How about "Physics Inc."?
Oooh, yay John Smith! Crazy-ass troll with massive piles of karma; I approve. I was at your table during the midnight-4am events, for what that's worth.
And Briefcase Chan is here too? Kickass.
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Just my 2 cents, but...
if all of you have run through the Grab, and Chasing the Dragon (which consequently were the 2 midnight runs at GenCon) the events from those runs may be influencing your group...particularly when deciding about protection of a specific group or type of person...
Hey Can! Yeah I remember you. Hows that new focus working out for you?
Suggest em here I say.
Casazil: I like the strictures you picked out and second them as the strictures we should use for the group. I also think adding in the dues stricture would be good. That way we can have group resources. This accomplishes 2 things 1) it provides group members with better than we can afford ourselves facilities and access to items at a discount(maybe) and 2) can act as a draw for potential new members Also as membership increases dues go down or level of resources goes up. As adepts we do not really require such things as magical lodges etc but hey this could act as replacement of our monthly lifestyle costs if we go for at least high resource levels. 5 members would be looking at 2000 nuyen per month for high resources which provides living accomodations at middle level. See page 68 of Street Magic for details.
McQuillan has an idea on group purpose I think. John would be behind protecting that particular group of metahumanity for sure as he is still a bit disturbed by that whole thing. I'm open though on this one and happy to go one way or the other.
As far as creating the group each member must donate 5 karma. This is true for each member joining later as well. The only thing remaining is our name. So far the following have been suggested:
The Silent Brotherhood
The Order of the Brotherhood
Physics Inc.
Any other suggestions? Lets give it another day or two and then hold a vote on which name to go with.
As far as members so far it looks like the following are interested. Please confirm your intent to join the group by posting here or pming me.
John Smith
Phantom
Briefcase Chan(?)
Character played by Linmayu
Anyone else thats a phys ad? Did I miss anyone?
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Hmmm... Five karma? Ouch. Well, I can do it, but not right now.
Matter of fact, there aren't that many people running missions around central-west Ohio, and the big-con season's about over, so I might not be able to do it until next year. Mind you, I don't mind paying the karma for a good group.
Incidentally, I've got a new name. We're an all phys-adept group... We'll never have a better opportunity...
"Fight Club!"
Come on, you know you want to! And everyone knows the first rule...
It's not enough to decide the name and game mechanics, though. We've got a few more things to decide. Do we want to run this like a gentlemen's club? (Diogenes club, of Sherlock Holmes fame) Do we want to run it like a business or corporation? (Like a headhunters agency, existing to get its members jobs) Do we want to run it like a fraternal organization? (Freemasons) Do we want to run it like a mystic cultlike thing, and share a common view on magic? (Rosicrucians) Do we want to run it like a dojo? (Mutual training gym)
I'd prefer something like the Freemasons, with less secret handshakes and no gender discrimination. Anyone else have any preferences?
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Fight Club? Hell yes. Given that this isn't really going to be that public of an organization in the real world, we probably won't get sued for using it...
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| I like a couple of the ideas you put foward but one reason I offered this name The Physical Society was so that the group did not sound like a male only club. |
Founding a group does cost 5 Karma. (As does joining an existing group.) Remember, however, that group initiation and an ordeal (such as Oath) reduces your initiation costs by a total of 40%. Since the group you guys are sketching out, includes an Oath stricture, that means that the first level of initiation would actually be reduced by 40%. Going from a normal cost of 13 karma down to 8. So, you're looking at saving the first 5 karma right there.
In the interests of letting everyone get started, if you've already undergone your first initiation, I'd be willing to say that you founded the group before doing so, allowing you to effectively use karma you've already spent.
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| Lost Demiurge Yes well fight club may be a cool idea but there is the copy right problem as the names does belong to a movie company. Now i'm not saying said movie company is watching message boards and waiting for people to use the name fight club as an offical name for something. However sometimes there are a few people who look for things like that and then they go off and tell anyone who will listen that someone is useing said name or whatever without permission. Then said movie company has to go do something about it so why even tempt fate not that it was not a good idea. As to what we want to run the group like I did say this a couple of posts ago: "Whats our purpose? the training and advancement of physical adepts? protection of a specific group or person?". I like a couple of the ideas you put foward but one reason I offered this name The Physical Society was so that the group did not sound like a male only club. Yes I know it is thought very few females play rpg's but there are actually quite few out there and so I want to be sure that they feel free to join our magical group if they decide to play an adept. Ok so I guess i'm done babbleing for now so any other thoughts? |
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| Oath (To help other members and uphold any rules we set down as law), |
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| Patron: None at this time? Dunner thoughts? restrictions? |
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Hm... As far as oaths go...
How about "Never turn down a fair fighting challenge?"
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| Here is the group so far just as an outline so we know where we stand. Name: Fight Club? Purpose: Training and advancement of our craft? Members: 4? Strictures: Exclusive Membership (You can only be in this group), Limited Membership (physical adepts Only), Fraternity (Your required to help other members when they need help), Secercy (No talking about the group & can only approach a new member if all current members agree the new person would be good for the group), Oath (To help other members and uphold any rules we set down as law), Attendance (Say meetings every 3 or 4 months)? Resources/Dues: Middle/1250 a month each or High/2500 a month each? Patron: None at this time? Dunner thoughts? restrictions? Discription & Customs: Training and advancement of the groups members in a dojo type infrastructure. Follwers in a freemasons/Illuminati type organization? Feel free to as always pick things apart or add to whats here. |
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I think spending Karma scared 'em off.
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Hey, I'm still here!
I really want to join, but Chan won't have the karma until I can get him to another mission or two. So, consider me in a holding pattern until then...
Im still here as well and am in for this. Just one question though about the dues. You sure you don't want to go high? I mean if we go high then we no longer really have to pay a lifestyle cst every month since High resources includes medium lifestyle fixings or maybe I read that wrong. Dunner?
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It's your group guys.
Whatever amount of money you're willing to commit to is fine by me.
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Everything looks kosher to me. The 3 laws for the Oath look like plenty. As soon as you agree on a lifestyle, you'll have my blessing.
My vote's for high!
As phys ads, we tend to need little in the way of equipment, so I've found that cash tends to build up. (At least for me.) I'm sittin' on about 30K right now, with not much I really need. (Might buy a sports car one day, but that's way down the road.
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I assume one of those two votes for high is me. If not then I am voting for high on the resources. I am willing also to donate up to 5 karma (if allowable) to help any of the 4 who want in but are short on karma. Oh and as a suggestion for a 4th law: No one talks about fight club. (You can't have that rule listed only once it just loses its significance for some reason.)
Alright, looks like you're good to go to me! Congratulations, you have a group.
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If you're loaning Karma or being loaned Karma, please drop me a PM. I believe that was an SR3 rule that didn't carry over to SR4.
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If that becomes necessary, I'd like to handle it in PMs.
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I am in Columbus, OH and have a Adept also, have run through missions 1-6 , 3-6 were at Origins ... Bodog. Dwarf. Gunslinger Adept, and practitioner of Headbutt Kung Fu.
Just wanted to introduce myself to you all.
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Now to the biz. I wanted to point out that in the syllabus of your magical group, the ranks of Grand Master and beyond are impossible to achieve unless you are a Dragon or perhaps a Free Spirit. Your Initiate Grade cannot exceed your Magic attribute, so the maximum Initiate Grade for a metahuman Magician or Adept would Initiate Grade 6, giving them a maximum Magic rating of 12. (BTW, ouch on all the karma needed to initiate 6 times and then boost the Magic rating!)
I wasn't sure if those ranks were measured against the Magic rating of the Adept or the initiate level, but I wanted to point it out so that your great idea will stand the test of time. Perhaps if Bodog continues to run the shadows of Denver you might approach him someday.
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Yes indeed if you do know of any of the other members you may get an invite, soon even you never know.
Looks great to me! Tnaks Dunner appreciate your working with us on this one.
That is good to know about the initiation grades and Magic. I will have to try and lock that away in my wetware for future reference.
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| Tangentially -- Bodog, did your character meet Briefcase Chan? I know both characters were active at Origins. Which'd give you a connection if you wanted in. smile.gif |
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| I roleplayed Bodog waaaaaay too goofy in retrospect, and I am debating wiping the slate clean. Thoughts on that from someone who was there, the_dunner? |
Well, your non-answer still answered my question. While my noodle slowly bakes trying to figure out what I just said ... let me say this. I guess I overplayed him a bit, but alot of that was me being happy to be at the con, away from work, and playing SR again. Also, 29 Karma is alot to walk away from.
That said, then, this magical group I don't know about
might have heard of Bodog then through shadowtalk, since it appears I have not run with Briefcase Chan as of yet.
If the group's willing to let you in, I've no good reason to object.
Cas, no objections to the list!
And hell, if goofy and eccentric is too much, then Chan's overkill. I got no problems with you joining, Bodog.
As long as the others are fine with it...
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| Well now the only problem is we need someone who has worked with Bodog to bring him to our attention. |
Welcome to Fight Club Bodog.
Thank you for the invitation. I am honored to be included into yer group. *Crushes a beer can against his head*
Hey guys I am gonna edit the top post and put our group layout in the first post so it is easier to see the group design.
I'll also keep it updated so everyone will know when we get new members.
Please as you gain levels of initiation post them here.
In that intrest Ganavio is now level 3 with Adept Centering, Flexible Signature, and Masking.
I'll edit all other posting of the group design so that the first post holds all the info.
Dunner feel free to delete any posts that are No longer relavant.
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| Copyright, huh? We're not really making money off of this, so I don't see how it applies. |
Try this........"Ad Spathas", Latin origin. Used by the Romans, means to fight with arms (also meant to train)
You know, I was gonna get angry here. I was gonna rant, and cut loose with a few choice comments on the silliness of the entire situation, topped off with a few suggestions of which parts of their anatomy lawyers could insert this thread into. And round it out by pointing out the irony of worrying about getting sued by copying a leaf from the book of one of the greatest antidisestablishmentarianist films ever made.
But then I had a brainstorm. And by golly, you're right, everyone who sounded off on this name that wasn't even in the group! It's better to live in fear of the almighty lawyers, and their evil internet-searching minions, than make a slightly-goofy, intellectual joke. We're done, we've all talked and we're breaking up fight club. We'll post nothing further on it, and we're not going through with it. As this is a sensitive issue, I've composed my thoughts below. Selectively bolded for ease of reference.
Why worry about it?
Even we can't stand up to the evil that is Fox lawyers.
Arguments won't sway us.
Really, it was far too much hassle arguing on the boards.
Everyone in the club is leaving to find another group.
Face it, there's no sense in risking things just for the fun of it.
I didn't think it'd work anyway.
Go ahead, keep an eye out, you won't find future postings on the club.
Heck, you'll probably find only stuff on the movie, if you google.
To be honest, it's easier this way.
Come next month, you'll have to find another topic to read.
Let's not argue about pointless things.
Usually, there's something better to argue about.
Besides, when all's said and done, It's about fun, not copyrights.
Finally, I'd like to say that you'll never hear any further nonsense.
On Fight club, either in-game or out-of-game.
Really, we're talking about a secret society.
Especially, one formed by people who don't exist, that in their own game
Virtually don't exist. (Sinless, y'know?)
Exit Fight Club, it was a fun idea while it lasted.
Really, I'll miss it.
Sadly, it's the state of the world that anyone can be sued
Over the stupidest things.
Because the sad truth is that law
Is truly on the side of those with the most money.
The common man is left risking financial ruin, to turn aside corporations
Eventually, the time will come when Shadowrun's world is a sad reality.
My point is that law gets to be more of a three-ring circus
Every year. But while I'm saying this...
Let's say, hypothetically, that...
A group of five people DID want to call themselves Fight Club
Without saying it in public, or saying any more on the board, what could
You seriously do to them? They could say, "We've disbanded the group,
Everyone's no longer in Fight club, it doesn't exist. Can't sue us."
Right?
So it's no crime, no foul. And only the conspiracy theorists would say,
"!!!"
Heck, who listens to them? they spend
All their time looking for stuff like steganography, anyway.
Hey, when all's said and done,
All we want is some good clean fun.
Harm no one, that's the way to go.
And in the end, if you take this topic seriously, the joke's on you.
Now that was an insightfull rant way to go Lost Demiurge this definately shows you have great potental as a leader too bad we are disbanding the group oh well.
Haha
*points at the bolded caps reading down them for those that missed it*
HEY! you spoiled it!
Perhaps we should take our *secret* chatter to a dedicated thread. We wouldn't want too much about our organization to be bared for all the world to see.
Aw sorry I didn't mean to spoil it. As far as dedicated we would have to lock this thread or have it erased or something heh. After printing it out of course.
Damn! I went offline for a few days and missed all the fun!
XDXDXD @ Briefcase Chan's post.
I met a rather interesting dwarf tonight a bit loud but by no means afraid to jump right in and get down and dirty.
I took the postion of over watch this time so I was out of the main fight tonight but I saw and heard the little guy not only take a beating he also dished out a pretty good one to.
I pulled him aside later and told him he was welcome to join us but alas he has turn us down.
If I get the chance to work with him again I'll try to recruit him again as I think he would make a good addtion to our organization.
Till later chummers
Ganavio
Hey with 2 conventions down and D*C approaching fast has anyone advanced their characters or found new members that needed to be added to the list?
I met a new guy and he seemed interested in joining so next time I get to talk to him I'll get a decision.
He held his own and even came up with a good idea or 2 duing the last few runs I was on with him.
Well I have to go so much do to so little time to do it.
Hey quick note got in touch with the new guy again tonight once again he was cool to run with and so I brought up the idea of joining us again and he said sure sounds like a good deal.
So please everyone welcome Jinx our newest member.
Welcome, Jinx! We oughta do lunch...
Oh, and incidentally I initiated recently, grade 1. Picked up Masking...
Sweet good to hear your studies are going well Chan.
Now we just need some more members I've got a thing this weekend maybe I'll meet some other new talent.
I think Jinx will be joining me on this one so he'll get to show me what he can do yet again the guy is good.
Hi all it has been a while since I posted so please forgive me. I have been busy meditating and other such pursuits to bring my self into better attunement with the magical world surrounding us. (Level 2 initiated now for those scratching their heads) First let me give a formal welcome to our new members. Please do not forget the rules and above all have fun when you fight!
I am sorry I missed the fun I heard happened recent involving Killirov Vory(Gen Con 07 SRM Scramble) I was however occupied with other umm lets say duties yeah that works. I would ask if any of you were there and what happened but I do not want to violate anyones codes so forget I asked.
OOC: I had a great time at Gen Con 07 and ran into at least a couple of our members there. I hope to be in better contact in the future so please feel free to message me to chat, ask questions I can't answer
or just to say hi. I'm not good with web site work but if anyone has that knack and has enough ambition maybe we could start our own web page? Also do we have a complete list of members right now? If so can someone send that to me? Anyway hello all. My thanks to Casazil for the hard work you have been putting into keeping our group alive since I am too laz... err busy to do it myself. Grats to Chan for your successful initiation and again hello to Jinx!
Signing off for now before this terminal explodes or shorts out or... [Connection timed out]
Hey great to hear from ya we thought maybe you got stuck in that meditation room
Don't feel bad I was off working on another project down in the Caribbean League area.
It seems these big jobs always show up about this time of year and for some reason or another I always seem to be preoccupied elsewhere next year I think I'll work on being around so I can know first hand what’s going on.
OOC As to what’s up with this topic thanks I try and yes the first post is up to date as of today although the idea did hit me to copy that and start a new topic that is maybe a bit more on topic as this topic makes it seem like we are asking a question about using Street Magic in SRM’s rather that it being a topic about our player created initiatory group for adepts.
As a matter of fact Yes I think I will I hope no one minds as I do have issues with seeing a topic and opening it to read something that interests me only to find it is not the subject I wanted to read about.
http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?act=ST&f=20&t=18830&st=0#entry580923
Ok so see everyone over there and hope to see some of ya soon at D*C maybe?
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