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Posted by: GoblynByte Aug 11 2006, 11:48 AM
I sort of have my own theories as to the fate of R. Talsorian's message boards (the Cyberpunk board to be specific), but I was wondering if anyone else knows what exactly happened? Shortly after Cyberpunk v3 hit the shelves the boards just disappeared. I have little doubt that the two events are related (having seen Cyberpunk v3). I just happened to think that some of the folks here might have frequented those boards as well and maybe heard some grumblings or rumors.
Thanks all!
Posted by: HullBreach Aug 11 2006, 07:26 PM
Their busy playing with the Dolls they used in Lieu of the previously awesome art (at least in the later supplements).
God CP2030 was such a disappointment. Im using it to level a table. No joke.
Posted by: GoblynByte Aug 11 2006, 08:37 PM
| QUOTE (HullBreach) |
| Their busy playing with the Dolls they used in Lieu of the previously awesome art (at least in the later supplements). God CP2030 was such a disappointment. Im using it to level a table. No joke. |
I truly wonder if any game designer in RPG history has screwed up nearly that bad. What's sad is that we're talking about one of the staples of the industry and the definitive game of that genre. I don't think there's a "what the hell!" big enough for that piece of smelly waste.
And at least you found a use for it. My buddy just threw it away. That's as telling about the quality of that book as anything else. Have you ever known any gamer to take a book out of the mailing package, flip through its pages for 45 minutes, then put it directly into the trash? Most gamers I know hold onto their empty chip bags longer than that. The price tag on that book wasn't even worthy of him keeping it on the shelf to collect dust.
Posted by: HullBreach Aug 12 2006, 01:12 AM
The saddest part of the whole affair is that if it had been well written I would have forgiven them the art.
But the story just required such insane suspension of disbelief that I couldnt even try to like it.
I got the distinct impression that whoever wrote it had recently finished reading Neal Stephenson's Diamond Age. Trouble is, this is what Diamond Age would look like if my cat ate it then deposited it in the litter box.
I remember flipping through it (Last RPG system I'll ever buy sight unseen) thinking that whoever the art director was must have this smoking hot kinky girlfirend who was really into dolls. Thats the only conceivable reason I can come up with for that kind of decision making.
Posted by: GoblynByte Aug 12 2006, 02:21 AM
| QUOTE (HullBreach) |
| The saddest part of the whole affair is that if it had been well written I would have forgiven them the art. But the story just required such insane suspension of disbelief that I couldnt even try to like it. I got the distinct impression that whoever wrote it had recently finished reading Neal Stephenson's Diamond Age. Trouble is, this is what Diamond Age would look like if my cat ate it then deposited it in the litter box. I remember flipping through it (Last RPG system I'll ever buy sight unseen) thinking that whoever the art director was must have this smoking hot kinky girlfirend who was really into dolls. Thats the only conceivable reason I can come up with for that kind of decision making. |
My thought was that he wasn't able to afford a real artist.
What's even worse than the bad storyline is the fact that the rabid cyberpunk fans had been waiting on that game for nearly a decade. And I'm not even talking about a decade since the previous edition. It was something like 7 years after the anouncement of v3 that it actually hit the shelves. The fans were about ready to tear Pondsmith apart before the games release. I can only imagine what they were thinking when that book flopped out onto their laps.
I honestly think it'll go down as the biggest flop in gaming history. I'd love to see some comparative numbers in that respect, but I wouldn't know where to look. And it would simply be for a sick sense of curiosity.
Posted by: HullBreach Aug 12 2006, 04:55 AM
In all honesty I'd love to see the property bought by another company and re-releases as Cyberpunk 2020v2 or B or somthing. The game needs some tweaks and love, but there is some fantastic stuff in there.
I've played around with attempting to convert some of the better gems of the Chromebooks and Solo of Fortune supplements over to SR on more than one occaision.
Posted by: SL James Aug 12 2006, 04:59 AM
It's been done. Check out the Plastic Warriors link on dumpshock.com
Posted by: GoblynByte Aug 12 2006, 11:54 AM
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| It's been done. Check out the Plastic Warriors link on dumpshock.com |
"Plastic Warriors." Is that supposed to be some Cyberpunk v3 joke?
Posted by: FlakJacket Aug 15 2006, 05:14 PM
Don't think so since its been about for years.
Posted by: Bull Aug 16 2006, 01:10 PM
| QUOTE (FlakJacket) |
| Don't think so since its been about for years. |
Indeed. Gurth's Plastic Warriors stuff has been around as long as I can remember, so it dates abck to 95 or 96, at least.
Not really sure where the name comes from, you'd have to ask him.
Bull
Posted by: GoblynByte Aug 17 2006, 01:55 AM
| QUOTE (FlakJacket @ Aug 15 2006, 12:14 PM) |
| Don't think so since its been about for years. |
Oh I know. I was just making a lame attempt at a joke.
Ya know...plastic warriors...plastic dolls...dolls used in the illustrations. Waka waka waka! Ewwwkay. I'll just come in again.
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