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Posted by: Wounded Ronin Feb 14 2008, 05:02 AM
I think that the upcoming Knight Rider TV movie is going to suck on the basis that the male lead looks like a wuss. See photo and blurb here: http://www.nbc.com/Knight_Rider/bios/index.shtml
This guy just looks like a handsome movie star type. If he and David Hasslehoff got into the Thunderdome, Hasslefhoff would win at the one minute and thirty second mark by Sufforcating Teabag. Bruening, in the picture, looks like he should be a hairdresser, or perhaps primping at a gay bar.
The character he plays is supposed to be this jaded ex Army Ranger. But, see, Rangers are supposed to be tough. Now, when you look at that picture, what's the first thing you think? Is it "tough" or is it "metrosexual"? The looks is not believable for the character.
Why have the people casting these things seemingly lost touch with the Conans and the Rambos? If you look at Stallone in Rambo 4, he looks *tough*. If you look at Arnie in Conan the Barbarian, you don't look at him and immediately feel underwhelmed by a sensation of wussiness.
Knight Rider is about an intelligent car so it's presumably directed more at men rather than women as a target audience. I could understand a metrosexual looking male lead if the show was supposed to appeal to women. But as a male if a character is supposed to be a hard-bitten ranger I want him to look more along the lines of Rambo in Rambo 4. Seriously. How can I exult in his heroicness or his epic toughness when he looks like the damn hairdresser? How can I believe he's a hard bitten combat vet if he looks so utterly metrosexual and preoccupied with his appearance?
Posted by: Kanada Ten Feb 14 2008, 05:16 AM
But, but, he went like a week without shaving for the part!
Knight Rider, the infodaytimedramamercial.
Posted by: mfb Feb 14 2008, 05:26 AM
Bruening really does have a purty mouth on him. the metrosexual look on a grizzled, tough badass could be really cool if done right... but i don't think Knight Rider is going to do it right.
Posted by: hyzmarca Feb 14 2008, 07:02 AM
Knight Rider isn't meant to sell cars. It is meant to sell the Shelby Mustang Cobra GT500KR Super Snake.
Let's break down what that means. You start with a 2008 Ford Mustang GT, one of the best muscle cars in production today. Then you take that super-powered muscle car to Shelby Motors, where they strip it down and rebuild it from the ground up to be absurdly overpowered. It has 725 horsepower and guzzles gas as if it were cheap beer. It's a man's car. It's a man's man's car.
Posted by: Critias Feb 14 2008, 07:34 AM
Which is why people are wondering how/why the sissy got ahold of one.
Posted by: Kanada Ten Feb 14 2008, 03:17 PM
http://www.carbuyersnotebook.com/archives/2007/06/branded_cologne_what_ever.htm
OMG
Posted by: tisoz Feb 14 2008, 03:41 PM
I think he looks like he could be David Hasslehoff's son, but I think David Hasslehoff looks like he could play a hairdresser. Mr. Hasslehoff is hardly comparable to Rambo/Stallone or Conan/Schwartzeneger. He doesn't even look as tough as Chuck Norris, even without the manly beard. Even Bruce Willis looks more manly than David Hasslehoff.
Can you tell I think Hasslehoff looks like a candyass? He might be able to take Robbie Benson or some kid from a boy band (before they grew up) in a Thunderdome Fight. Which reminds me of Mel Gibson and come to think of him some guys with similar non-musclebound builds like Harrison Ford, or even Kurt Russel.
Posted by: Abbandon Feb 14 2008, 04:24 PM
Its a tv series not movie.
And the guy who was going to do Kit's voice had to bail cuz he also does the voice overs in some chevy commercial or some crap. Now its going to be Val Kilmer lol.
I really hate the 90's and 2000's for giving up on trying to be creative and just vomiting back up the shows from the past and making all these retro movies and retro tv shows. Those people who decide to do that should be shot. Just play the originals jerk offs.
That said....Bionic woman wasnt that bad and was even very shadowrunny. Knight Rider was one of my favorite shows as a child. I hope this new one will be worth watching. I doubt it will last for more than 2 seasons though. If the retards cant come up with an original show you know they dont have the brain power to think up that many new episodes lol. But I will give it a shot...
Let's see... whats on deck to be bastardized next...the love boat!! I havent seen a retro movie or tv series of it yet!!
Posted by: Wounded Ronin Feb 14 2008, 04:56 PM
See, the idea behind the original Knight Rider was to take the heroic wandering cowboy archetype with the steed and make that adapted to the 80s. So we got a disconsolate lone wolf Vietnam vet with a metal plate in his head with the black trans am that could do anything because of its "microchips" and "circuits", including parse the English language better than Leather Goddess of Phobos.
That's why the idea as being presented now doesn't work. Breuning doesn't look anything like a heroic wandering disconsolate ex-military proto-cowboy. They should've cast Clint Eastwood instead.
Posted by: mfb Feb 14 2008, 06:06 PM
what th... even Bruce Willis? Bruce Willis is all that is man, you heathen.
is anyone else vaguely weirded out by the parallels that Hollywood tries to make beteen Nam vets and Iraq vets? maybe it's because Vietnam had stopped being a reasonable war to be a heroic veteran from by the time i really started paying attention to movies, in my mid-teens, and nothing really came along to replace it--there was some attempt to use the Gulf War the way Vietnam had been used, but it just never seemed believable to me. using the veteran-from-the-latest-and-greatest war trope just strikes me as being so... trite and silly.
Posted by: Wounded Ronin Feb 14 2008, 06:19 PM
is anyone else vaguely weirded out by the parallels that Hollywood tries to make beteen Nam vets and Iraq vets? maybe it's because Vietnam had stopped being a reasonable war to be a heroic veteran from by the time i really started paying attention to movies, in my mid-teens, and nothing really came along to replace it--there was some attempt to use the Gulf War the way Vietnam had been used, but it just never seemed believable to me. using the veteran-from-the-latest-and-greatest war trope just strikes me as being so... trite and silly.
Exactly. They should have gone with Clint Eastwood and had him be a Vietnam vet.
Posted by: apollo124 Feb 14 2008, 07:04 PM
For the love of God, shut up! They may be listening right now! You could have just handed them their next "new" idea!
Posted by: martindv Feb 14 2008, 07:13 PM
And the guy who was going to do Kit's voice had to bail cuz he also does the voice overs in some chevy commercial or some crap. Now its going to be Val Kilmer lol.
It's a tv movie that may serve as the pilot for a series that will die a painful death much like Bionic Woman but without the mercy of brevity that Drive was given.
And Will Arnett is awesome. I want to believe that the conflict of interest was raised after he got paid and thought "But I'm still attached to this nonsense. Oh, wait! I've got it." followed by a phone call to GM.
Posted by: Fortune Feb 14 2008, 07:29 PM
From the NBC link ...
Posted by: SoyKaf Adict Feb 14 2008, 08:32 PM
Yeah c'mon, lets hope the Shelby calls in sick and they get the REAL Trans Am to cover for it... Maybe that's too idealistic.
Posted by: Fortune Feb 14 2008, 09:35 PM
Bite your tongue! Shelbys rock!
Posted by: hyzmarca Feb 15 2008, 12:24 AM
They really should bring back http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supertrain
Posted by: kanislatrans Feb 15 2008, 05:55 AM
gee, that writers strike hurt the studios alot more than I thought 
I never thought they'd resort to Necromancy though.
Hey! I'm of writing a script for a Sitcom based on "Who's the Boss!" See, Tony Danza's part will be played by K-Fed
and that womans part will be Monica Lewinski. They own a Rehab center and instead of kids they just have various famous patients who come and stay with them for 30 days. (damn, am I a genius or what?) 
Posted by: martindv Feb 15 2008, 06:49 AM
They should just allow softcore porn on broadcast tv.
Problem solved, and solved.
Posted by: Critias Feb 15 2008, 07:33 AM
...Softcore?
Posted by: Ravor Feb 16 2008, 05:42 AM
Well Hardcore tends to be so boring.
Posted by: Cain Feb 18 2008, 07:31 AM
Well, we've all seen it now.
What do y'all think?
Posted by: Zhan Shi Feb 18 2008, 07:56 AM
"The Dukes of Hazard" was brought back with more dignity than this. 
Posted by: martindv Feb 18 2008, 09:19 AM
Softcore is less like to cause spontaneous kindergarten orgies among children who were never even exposed to TV.
Posted by: martindv Feb 18 2008, 09:19 AM
*curses the sky*
So...
Everything in 2070 is connected via wifi, eh? Super...
Posted by: hyzmarca Feb 18 2008, 10:07 AM
And that is undesirable, why?
Softcore is actually worse because children tend to fill in the blanks with their imagination.
For a very a very long time, before I learned of the existence of the vagina, I thought that babies came out of the woman's butt. I assure you, that little mistaken assumption led to some very bizarre dreams.
So...
Everything in 2070 is connected via wifi, eh? Super...
Yeah, its silly to build a super AI that adults can hack. Teenagers and precocious preteens, sure; they can hack anything. But adult Blackwater mercenaries shouldn't be able to hack that well.
I must say that Bruening was okay as the comic relief sidekick that he played for the first two thirds of the movie but sucked as a protagonist. I almost felt like I was watching Shia Lebouf in transformers, only Shia was more baddass than Bruening.
There was also a bit of tactical stupidity that no Ranger would make, but that can only be blamed on the writers.
Drive was actually pretty good. The concept may seem silly, but really no more so that the massive conspiracies of 24 and such. The show was very well executed; the characters were likable, the writing with above par, and the acting was excellent. It really shouldn't have been canceled.
Posted by: Fortune Feb 18 2008, 11:11 AM
I haven't seen it yet because Oz TV sucks!
Posted by: Grinder Feb 18 2008, 03:22 PM
Same here in Germany.
Posted by: nezumi Feb 18 2008, 04:33 PM
Dig out the old BMW 'movies' they made, make it Ford instead, make an asinine plot to tie it altogether and imagine the lead actor is actually a tranny.
I liked the fact that they took every chance they could to mention 'hey, this is a Ford! Buy Ford. We have four new models of Ford you can buy, and while none of them talk or deflect bullets, they're all Ford.'
I wish they'd at least included turbo boost somewhere.
Posted by: mfb Feb 18 2008, 09:39 PM
wow, that was terrible. like, i knew it'd be bad, but not that bad.
Posted by: hyzmarca Feb 19 2008, 01:33 AM
http://www.nbc.com/Knight_Rider/video/episodes.shtml
Posted by: martindv Feb 19 2008, 02:12 AM
Wait. What?
24 is awful. Is comparing the two supposed to make me think more highly of Drive, which was just another waste of film? Seriously, I disagree with you about every one of those things you wrote.
Posted by: Cain Feb 19 2008, 07:41 AM
You know, I'm not sure how I feel about the show. On the one hand, the acting is as wooden as Howdy-Doody. The story is weak, the plot thin. But let's face it, we turned into the original to see cool cars doing cool things, and on that level, Knight Rider 2008 delivers. There's also a lot of homages to the original series, starting with the theme music and running straight through to the end; that's also what we tuned in to see.
So, there's not much wrong with the series that some improvements in direction and story would fix. All they need is a new director, and an end to the writer's strike. I'd be interested in seeing where a series based on this pilot would go, if they can do something about these problems.
Posted by: Cadmus Feb 19 2008, 07:53 AM
WHY! Why must they hurt us so? do they hate us? I ask you what did we do to them? and for the love of god can they please get a car that doesn’t look like a damn electric razor? I mean. ok its got power but when did muscle cars stop looking like they had well muscle?
Posted by: Grinder Feb 19 2008, 10:41 AM
"We're sorry, but the clip isn't available from your location."
Posted by: MYST1C Feb 19 2008, 10:56 AM
That was to be expected.
AFAIK a number of US and Canadian TV stations allow online viewings of their program - but only if you have a North American IP adress...
Posted by: PBTHHHHT Feb 19 2008, 12:16 PM
I like the look of the new mustang. That said, as Knight Rider, I don't know. Still haven't watched the show yet and I'll probably never.
Posted by: martindv Feb 19 2008, 05:18 PM
AFAIK a number of US and Canadian TV stations allow online viewings of their program - but only if you have a North American IP adress...
Yeah, that'll stop people from watching them online.
I really wonder... Well, wrong thread.
Posted by: Cain Feb 19 2008, 05:54 PM
Hey! I happen to *like* Shelby Cobra Mustangs!
Posted by: Wounded Ronin Feb 19 2008, 05:59 PM
I really wonder... Well, wrong thread.
I guess they just want to stop the crusty 50 year olds who don't know how to work el internado.
Posted by: hyzmarca Feb 19 2008, 06:43 PM
Use a US-based proxy. Or Bittorrent.
Posted by: Wounded Ronin Feb 19 2008, 10:59 PM
One thing that was retro about the show was how the female lead was wussy. Her character was a throwback to the days when the lead female would stand around being useless while the male lead was in some desperate hand to hand struggle with the villian.
Posted by: Grinder Feb 20 2008, 12:28 PM
AFAIK a number of US and Canadian TV stations allow online viewings of their program - but only if you have a North American IP adress...
Hope dies last.
And I honestly have no clue how to change my IP or whatever, neither the desire to do so. And I won't go and spent minutes to get this knowledge for the new Knight Rider movie
If I could have watch it online without doing anything more then open a website, fine. If not, I don't care.
Posted by: apollo124 Feb 20 2008, 04:36 PM
Well, I watched it alongside my little sister. She liked the theme music, and when I said they borrowed some from the old show, she told me she had never seen the old show. Made me feel old.
The car was alright, and they did go way out on the tech for it. Nanotech rebuilders to instantly repair damage and alter the exterior of the car(change paint color, type of car, add/remove fins), 156 miles/gallon, gasoline and solar powered, speeds up to 200+mph, and of course thermal scanners and instant massive computer network access, military spy satellite access and internet. And Val Kilmer doing the voice for KITT. No turbo boost so far and I am sooo glad. They way overdid that on the old series, IMO.
My only other complaint is that college roomy seems like the token "guy of some other color" so it didn't look so much like an all white show. Yes, I know the FBI agent woman was black, but at least she had a reason to be there. Roomy just seemed like he's gonna be the "hostage of the week".
Posted by: nezumi Feb 20 2008, 04:55 PM
The car was also black, or didn't you notice?
Posted by: Wounded Ronin Feb 20 2008, 05:33 PM
That's the other thing. Apparently the super magical diamond shielding on the TransAm is better than the nanotech instant repair stuff in the Mustang because it's not going to totally go away just because the computer system is shut down.
Remember how there was an episode where Hasslehoff has to rescue a young female Army lieutenant who has been confined inside a tank by the villians which is being used as a practice target for Army artillery? So Kitt is driving on the artillery range, and the villian tells the soldiers that Kitt's a drone target and they'll get three days off if they hit it. We see Kitt taking fire from mutliple artillery pieces and not taking a scratch in that episode.
The inactive diamond whatever shielding is clearly superior to the nanotech especially seeing as it can apparently withstand artillery hits. I mean, what more could you possibly need than that which nanotech is going to supply at the cost of being a lot less reliable?
Posted by: apollo124 Feb 20 2008, 05:36 PM
Yes, it was black....and silver, and purple. 'Sides, most times I don't count cars as "people".
Posted by: mfb Feb 20 2008, 07:42 PM
eh... except for
i'm not saying you can't like it--just that, if you did, you're wrong, and dumb, and god has turned his back on you for your crimes.
Posted by: Cain Feb 20 2008, 09:14 PM
IIRC, the secrets of the Molecular Bonded Shell died with Devon Miles.
i'm not saying you can't like it--just that, if you did, you're wrong, and dumb, and god has turned his back on you for your crimes.
I'm not sure that I liked it. Or that I hate it. I honestly don't know how I feel about the show. I did discover that the script was written in 12 days, just before the writer's strike went into effect. So, there's no telling what this show can become with a decent story and direction. I do think that the show can work, if you fix these issues.
Posted by: Fortune Feb 20 2008, 09:35 PM
But .... but ... but it's a Shelby!
Posted by: hyzmarca Feb 21 2008, 01:08 AM
The movie also completely ignored the established Continuity of Knight Rider 2000 by having law enforcement officers use handguns (it became illegal for police to use firearms when reliable microwave stunners became widely available in the year 2000).
And the lack of Turbo Boost is most unforgivable.
Posted by: PBTHHHHT Feb 21 2008, 01:19 AM
Oh thank gawd. That was a horrible movie.
Posted by: DocTaotsu Feb 21 2008, 02:20 PM
Wait! No turbo boost?! That's like an X-wing without s-foils. Those bastards! You ruined it all! You fed me back my childhood and you RUINED IT ALL!
Posted by: mfb Feb 21 2008, 04:23 PM
i'll nominally agree with that. i do think that i'd honestly rather see David Hasselhoff's wrinkly butt behind the wheel than this kid. Bruening is... he's a twerp. i'm sure he'd do fine in any number of roles--but badass isn't one of 'em.
Posted by: PBTHHHHT Feb 21 2008, 09:36 PM
Z-95 Headhunter... oh wait, my starwars geekiness is starting to show...
Posted by: apollo124 Feb 22 2008, 06:06 AM
Be calm everyone. They just didn't find an excuse to use a turbo boost in the tv movie. If or when they turn it into a series, I'm sure it's gonna have a turbo boost installed. I mean, how else could they do all those cool shots?
Posted by: hyzmarca Feb 22 2008, 08:33 AM
You don't need an excuse to use Turbo Boost. It is always appropriate.
Posted by: Grinder Feb 22 2008, 02:19 PM
Word! 
Posted by: DocTaotsu Feb 22 2008, 02:44 PM
Thirded.
Posted by: hyzmarca Feb 22 2008, 10:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arL04K3HLMw 
Posted by: Grinder Feb 23 2008, 12:38 AM
Sweet!
Posted by: Cain Sep 25 2008, 05:46 AM
Well, we finally got to see the series. What do you all think?
I kinda like the homage to the original series. A man is declared dead, picks up a new name, a new identity, and a new supercar. They stuck to that pretty faithfully.
I liked that we finally got to see Turbo Boost. Didn't like the fact that we only saw it once, in passing.
Special effects are pretty cool.
But that's me. What about all of you?
Posted by: nezumi Sep 25 2008, 01:39 PM
I heard the ads on the radio and thought they were a joke. It honestly discouraged me from watching the show. I wasn't impressed by the pilot they showed last year either. I don't think they have the love for it. Is the series improved significantly from the pilot?
Posted by: Cain Sep 25 2008, 03:17 PM
Yes and no. They actually have a plot, for one. There's good chemistry between the leading man and leading woman. And there's more special effects, which are fairly cool, along with the return of Turbo Boost. However, it's still the same group of actors, although the two new techies are fairly impressive. They could have done a lot worse for the Bonnie replacement. The script is also much better, more tense than before.
On the down side, much of the plot builds up to him fully assuming his new identity, in a similar fashion to his father. I won't spoil it; just go to http://www.nbc.com/Knight_Rider/ and watch it for yourself.
Posted by: Dr. Funkenstein Sep 25 2008, 05:47 PM
I think it's promising. They're starting up right from the beginning with an actual story arc, so that's great.
Things I really liked:
- Val Kilmer's take on KITT. It's clear he's still very young, and it was cool seeing him develop perhaps his first emotional trait -- worrying. Hopefully we'll see him develop as the series progresses, eventually coming into a more relaxed and less clinical personality.
- Russo stripping down. Okay, so I'm a guy sometimes. Sue me. She was hot shimmying out of her clothes.
- Traceur's "mysterious past." Hope it pans out and provides a lot more meat to the show rather than being a one-time "oh, this is why we're changing his name" thing.
- More emphasis on the epsionage angle which was actually downplayed a lot in the original show. Loved all the spy gadgets, like the two-part mini-welder.
- Attack Mode KITT. Why, exactly, is there a giant neon blue "KR" underneath him? It just looks like they took every available option from American Chopper or whatever superglued it on. I also wasn't crazy about him changing into a truck. Changing from one sports car to another I can handle. But adding that much more mass and being able to shuffle people from the back to the front during the transformation? Too much. Honestly I can't even figure out why he needs an Attack Mode. I mean, I realize it's an homage to Super Pursuit mode, but... he can clearly break 300mph in his normal mode as well as handle weapons fire, so what's the point in it?
- The two technies. I appreciate the attempts to bring life to some of the extras on the show, but all of their lines and interplay was too forced and awkward. And not geek-talking-to-pretty-girl awkward, but just awkward in the acting in general. If they tone them down just a bit and make it more natural, I'll be good.
- Why KITT needed anyone trying to calculate how to remove the napalm from his hull. He's a SOTA AI who knew the techie was making a mistake almost instantly, but was following orders regardless (much like how he deployed the flares when he already knew they wouldn't work). As soon as they decided that cutting off the oxygen would work, KITT should have just turned back and dove right off the bridge they were crossing when they came to that conclusion. Would have made a lot more sense, and I'd find it hard to believe that if he can keep the flames outside for that long and can change into a truck, that he wasn't able to submerge without much problem.
I'll be sticking around to see how the show develops. Right now it has a lot of promise but needs some fine tuning for it to be a solid addition to my TIVO list.Also heard a rumor that near the end of the season, KITT (the Two Thousand model) and Hasslehoff's Knight will be showing up. Should be fun. Can't wait for the old KARR to make an appearance, too. He never was actually killed in the original series; his CPU was still in tact.
Posted by: Stahlseele Sep 25 2008, 06:49 PM
how was the CPU still intakt?
if i remember correctly, the second time he had to go cliff-diving he asploded on impact O.o
and don't say you want to see the red thing they called kitt in the 2000 movie? x.x . .
i'D rather see Goliath again . . so i like em big, tough and nasty, sue me!
would be nice to see GARTH Knight again too . . some nice family-dramatics or something like that ^^
and in the role of garth knight, the hoff actually did look badass and manly . .
Posted by: Dr. Funkenstein Sep 25 2008, 09:48 PM
At the very end of the episode you see his CPU fully intact amongst the wreckage with its scanner still doing the Cylon thing, albeit faintly.
Oh, and no, I wasn't talking about the 2000 movie. The original KITT (Knight Industries Two Thousand) is who I meant, as opposed to the one in the new show (the Knight Industries Three Thousand). As far as I'm aware, that movie, the apocolyptic cyberpunk future Knight Rider, Team Knight Rider, and pretty much anything that wasn't the original series isn't considered "canon" in this one.
Posted by: Shadow Sep 26 2008, 02:01 AM
I was so disapointed in the new show. They decided to go "full cheese" or the show. I had to turn it of after 15 minutes, it was worse than the bionic woman remake.
Posted by: Stahlseele Sep 26 2008, 02:21 PM
i'm intrigued and wish to learn more O.o
you don't mean Knightrider 2010 do you?
the Movie with the fight between a ground based Stealth-Fighter-Jet and the heap of junk with the virtual woman?
Posted by: hyzmarca Sep 26 2008, 03:35 PM
you don't mean Knightrider 2010 do you?
the Movie with the fight between a ground based Stealth-Fighter-Jet and the heap of junk with the virtual woman?
That's the only post-apocalypse future Knight Rider out there.
Personally, I thought the special effects were cheesy and the team was too big. Knight Rider is supposed to be The Lone Ranger in a car. Having a huge team and a huge base defeats that.
Posted by: Stahlseele Sep 26 2008, 07:59 PM
in the original Series, there were Knight, Devon, Bonnie, later on R.C., that makes 4 people. plus the car.
Big Base was there too, AND there was the moderately big mobile base of the truck . . .
the Teams in the Movies were not that bad in compareing . . Team Knightrider was the worst in that regard . .
Posted by: Dr. Funkenstein Sep 27 2008, 04:53 AM
Yes, 2010 was what I was referring to.
I don't mind there being a "base" where they work on and upgrade KITT or that acts as an information/mission hub. I just don't like the implementation of the one they're using. KITT really shouldn't need techies figuring things out for him, especially when he proves right in the first episode that he's smarter and more efficient than said techies. I mean in the original series it was pretty implausible to believe they were able to give KITT his super-pursuit mode in the back of a semi. There should be a happy medium between both ideas.
I do have to say that I like the implication we saw that there may be more than one AI in the "KITT cave." Mike seemed to know one of the robot's name as he petted it while walking by, and it responded with a little hum. That could lead to some interesting stories.
Posted by: hyzmarca Sep 27 2008, 04:34 PM
I don't mind there being a "base" where they work on and upgrade KITT or that acts as an information/mission hub. I just don't like the implementation of the one they're using. KITT really shouldn't need techies figuring things out for him, especially when he proves right in the first episode that he's smarter and more efficient than said techies. I mean in the original series it was pretty implausible to believe they were able to give KITT his super-pursuit mode in the back of a semi. There should be a happy medium between both ideas.
Super Pursuit Mode was stupid in every aspect, and pretty much where the show jumped the shark. Which is why I don't think Attack Mode was very wise.
Posted by: Dr. Funkenstein Sep 27 2008, 04:56 PM
Not disagreeing.
Posted by: Fortune Sep 27 2008, 09:13 PM
I finally got to watch the pilot for the new series last night (stupid Oz TV!).
In my opinion, it wasn't terrible. It did drag in parts, and probably could have been edited down to an hour, but all-in-all I thought it was entertaining.
Posted by: Dr. Funkenstein Sep 27 2008, 09:29 PM
Down to an hour? I'm guessing you mean the movie? Give the first real episode ("A Knight in Shining Armor") a shot. It was a little better, though I realize why a lot of people didn't care for it. You can watch it numerous places online, such as http://www.hulu.com/watch/36548/knight-rider-a-knight-in-shining-armor.
Posted by: Fortune Sep 27 2008, 09:37 PM
Yes, I meant the movie. The series is just about to start its run on TV down here. Are there any differences? The movie is basically being billed out here as the pilot to the new series. Is that not correct?
Posted by: Dr. Funkenstein Sep 27 2008, 09:50 PM
I guess it's technically a pilot, but it was more of a television movie that became a series rather than a television movie made to sell a series. The first real episode is the one I linked above which has a bunch of minor differences from the movie. The way KITT transforms and his voice box are some major points. The KITT cave, the staff, and pretty much all the other basic elements are different but the same. Hard to explain.
But it's all done by a different production team, so yeah... there are differences. A lot of people who liked the series agreed that the movie wasn't all that great. So take that for what it's worth.
Posted by: Fortune Sep 28 2008, 01:55 AM
I see. Thanks for clearing up my confusion. I do intend to watch the series, and I exect I'll enjoy it, regardless of reviews. 
Posted by: Link Sep 28 2008, 09:46 AM
Channel 7 won't make it easy. Bionic Woman, for instance, disappeared without a trace.
Posted by: Fortune Sep 28 2008, 01:50 PM
No great loss.
Posted by: Cain Oct 2 2008, 04:06 AM
Ok, episode 2:
This one was definitely interesting. It had a decent plot, lots of cool cars, hot women in bikinis, and plenty of action. The ending was also great, as KITT is showing more and more personality. I'm beginning to have good hopes for this series.
Posted by: PhishStyx Oct 3 2008, 01:10 AM
This one was definitely interesting.
Really? I found it insipid with ill-thought dialogue and mismanaged character interactions. For example, the show continually beats the viewer over the head with the alleged sexual tension between the pair of agents, partly on the basis of their past relationship, but it's portrayed like the worst scripted high school romance you could find in an after school special. The actors are stiff together and don't act like people who know each other, which is important given that the characters are supposed to have been dating on an extended basis.
The plot was the agents vs. illegal military weapons salesmen whose cover is illegal street racing. That's not decent, that's dumb. What kind of idiot criminal goes around with another illegal enterprise as a COVER?!
Ok, I'll give you both of those, and sadly, they appear to be the primary draw of the show. And I have to admit that I'm curious as to what the blue roadster was in the premiere episode, but I'm not stuck on them.
I suppose. I only made it (in this week's episode) to the point where KITT and driver ditch the obligatory race to rush back to save the girl agent, only to discover that she's saved herself and he got captured because he couldn't be bothered to look behind the door he was stepping through.
I think in the end, I prefer my fictional secret agents to seem competent, even if it is all scripted out.
Posted by: HappyDaze Oct 3 2008, 01:16 AM
Plenty of shadowrunners have cover identities as a gang members or made men...
Stupid in some ways, but very much in genre.
Posted by: apollo124 Oct 27 2008, 01:50 PM
I'm still having some issues with the "super tech" they use on the show. Transforming car, yeah okay maybe. Self-repairing nannites, alright. Car that transforms into an entirely different type of vehicle with a minor change of a computer program, not so much. Turbo boost looks like that stupid rocket pack they put on R2D2 in Episode 2.
Kind of like the techie supporting cast. But there are a bunch of lab coat types that seem to do nothing there but walk back and forth carrying datapads. The old guy (leading woman's dad) really needs killed off, or remarried, or just to get a life. He's got no use there.
The super secret base is underneath an aircraft hangar? So all the missions happen within a couple of hundred miles of there, right? Nobody notices the fancy black car driving in and then not being in the hangar?
Posted by: PhishStyx Oct 28 2008, 01:06 AM
I quit watching when I realized the show would never NOT make my head hurt with it's awfulness.
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