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Posted by: Voran Sep 21 2010, 12:05 AM

Simply put, Minecraft is a sandbox game where you build stuff out of textured cubes in a random but incredibly expansive 3d world. Your goal, survive the nights. During the day on the surface you can collect resources, build stuff, but make sure you're in cover by nightfall, as monsters and undead spawn and will seek you out. Likewise, be wary of dark depths underground as you dig deep into the earth to find stuff like diamonds and ores.

To be honest, it looks like well...not like crap...but oldschool 8 bit. But its awesome. Its one of those, "Holy crap when did it become 3 am?" kind of games. Its not free, costing 9 euros, which comes out to around 13 bucks I think. But its kind of a lifetime account, entitling you to all updated content when the game gets released.

Its addictive, its fun, the music is nice, and it feels rather creepy at night.

The only thing I wish was that the monsters were a bit more active in trying to hunt you down at night, as it stands, a good locked door and decently high walls are enough.

Posted by: Karoline Sep 21 2010, 12:54 AM

I'm just waiting for my credit card to arrive. Stupid school PO Box not forwarding my mail.

Posted by: Kagetenshi Sep 21 2010, 01:07 AM

Do you awaken Durin's Bane?

~J

Posted by: Karoline Sep 21 2010, 01:14 AM

QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Sep 20 2010, 08:07 PM) *
Do you awaken Durin's Bane?

~J

I'm sure that'll be in later editions.

Posted by: nemafow Sep 21 2010, 01:44 AM

Sounds good, may take a look!

Posted by: Fabe Sep 21 2010, 02:16 AM

The game does sound interesting but I hear the sandbox style game play makes it a bit of a griefers paradise in muliti-play. Still I might give it a try.

Posted by: Voran Sep 21 2010, 07:03 AM

I havent checked out multiplayer servers yet, hopefully there will be 'peaceful coop' ones.

The only thing I would mark as a downside at the moment is that its just you solo and gets a little lonely. Now if you could slowly add friendly npcs, bots really, that could do some of the tasks you've already setup, plant and grow and harvest trees, crops, etc. Giving me further incentive to protect my regions so my minions, um, serfs, um...citizens, could toil peacefully or in relative safety during the night would be awesome.

Heh, this game definitely encourages you to adopt almost a dwarven mentality, establishing grand, deep underground fortresses and workshops. At least in the early modes, wood is such a relatively difficult resource to consistently acquire (you either have to run around alot for trees, or wait until the ones you've planted closest to your fort are mature enough to harvest) its easier to make a view pickaxes and just get stacks and stacks of stone. Plus, with wood being a primary component in all of your tools, its not something you can really afford to use as lumber for a wooden fort in the beginning stages.

The game itself is still in its developmental stage, so I have hopes for future content. Its also undergone a dramatic increase in 'net popularity lately, so much that i think we crashed his main site.

Posted by: Voran Sep 21 2010, 09:53 AM

*sigh* just died 4 times in a row trying to get my corpse-lewt back. This game can be brutal nyahnyah.gif

Posted by: Karoline Sep 21 2010, 12:04 PM

QUOTE (Voran @ Sep 21 2010, 03:03 AM) *
The game itself is still in its developmental stage, so I have hopes for future content. Its also undergone a dramatic increase in 'net popularity lately, so much that i think we crashed his main site.

I'm guessing the fact that it is being featured in Penny-Arcade is a big part of the increased popularity.

Posted by: Kagetenshi Sep 21 2010, 03:01 PM

QUOTE (Voran @ Sep 21 2010, 03:03 AM) *
The only thing I would mark as a downside at the moment is that its just you solo and gets a little lonely.

Are you sure that isn't the point? The game might be a commentary on the desolate existence of the programmer, toiling in solitude to construct virtual palaces that no one will appreciate.

~J

Posted by: CanadianWolverine Sep 24 2010, 11:44 PM

Check this excellent fan made trailer out, it should give you some idea of just how awesome this game is and its only in Alpha release, so many features have yet to be implemented for it to be considered Beta and Gold releases by its Developer Notch and growing Company in Sweden (IIRC).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaMTedT6P0I

Posted by: Karoline Sep 25 2010, 12:48 AM

QUOTE (CanadianWolverine @ Sep 24 2010, 07:44 PM) *
Check this excellent fan made trailer out, it should give you some idea of just how awesome this game is and its only in Alpha release, so many features have yet to be implemented for it to be considered Beta and Gold releases by its Developer Notch and growing Company in Sweden (IIRC).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaMTedT6P0I

Wow, that was some really awesome stuff.

Also, that was better than most official trailers I've seen for other games.

Posted by: Voran Sep 25 2010, 06:31 AM

This game does certainly lend towards ragequit nyahnyah.gif Heck, its even got its own tvtropes ragequit heading. How it happens? You're deep in the earth toiling away to get diamonds or precious ore, when you get jumped by a creeper or some unexpected monster that kills you, or you do something stupid that lands you in lava and you lose all the crap you've been carrying, including those hard earned ore, crafted armor, etc. And you know it'll take too long to get your gear back before it poofs, or you KNOW your lewt fell into lava and that's it.

Posted by: nemafow Sep 26 2010, 11:30 PM

That clip it making me get around to giving this a shot tonight.

Posted by: deek Sep 27 2010, 06:06 PM

The only game I play is the one I just lost. Damnit.

Posted by: Dumori Sep 27 2010, 07:33 PM

Part of me still thinks its a 3d Dwarf Fortress clone nyahnyah.gif I know its not quite but the are both similar.

Posted by: Karoline Sep 28 2010, 02:45 AM

QUOTE (Dumori @ Sep 27 2010, 03:33 PM) *
Part of me still thinks its a 3d Dwarf Fortress clone nyahnyah.gif I know its not quite but the are both similar.

I was kind of thinking along those lines, only my thought was more 'This guy and the DF guy should get together.'

I just got it earlier today, and although I haven't gotten super far, I've burned a few hours on it already. Unfortently the one I got the furthest on I died and all my stuff vanished, so figured I'd try again. Just haven't been able to do as well since. I seem to have a heck of a time finding coal, and no coal means no torches, which means no light, which makes it really hard to mine.

Posted by: Dumori Sep 28 2010, 10:10 AM

QUOTE (Karoline @ Sep 28 2010, 03:45 AM) *
I was kind of thinking along those lines, only my thought was more 'This guy and the DF guy should get together.'

I just got it earlier today, and although I haven't gotten super far, I've burned a few hours on it already. Unfortently the one I got the furthest on I died and all my stuff vanished, so figured I'd try again. Just haven't been able to do as well since. I seem to have a heck of a time finding coal, and no coal means no torches, which means no light, which makes it really hard to mine.

I'm still not sure if the dev has had his acounts unfrozen the sales boomed so much that paypla locked him down. In the first two weeks of this lockdown he had 750K in there. If its still locked there will be a lot more there now.

Looking at the membership and who has accounts at that time the game had grossed close to 2mil

Posted by: StealthSigma Sep 28 2010, 11:19 AM

QUOTE (Karoline @ Sep 27 2010, 10:45 PM) *
I just got it earlier today, and although I haven't gotten super far, I've burned a few hours on it already. Unfortently the one I got the furthest on I died and all my stuff vanished, so figured I'd try again. Just haven't been able to do as well since. I seem to have a heck of a time finding coal, and no coal means no torches, which means no light, which makes it really hard to mine.


It also means no home.

I recommend strip mining if your problem is coal. Find a place you want to build something big, then drop the height of the hills that are nearby. Dirt only goes down 2-4 blocks at most then you start hitting stone and possibly finding coal while you tear down the mountain.

Posted by: Karoline Sep 28 2010, 10:48 PM

QUOTE (StealthSigma @ Sep 28 2010, 07:19 AM) *
It also means no home.

I recommend strip mining if your problem is coal. Find a place you want to build something big, then drop the height of the hills that are nearby. Dirt only goes down 2-4 blocks at most then you start hitting stone and possibly finding coal while you tear down the mountain.


I found a nice winter world, and am getting really well established. My mining keeps turning up underground caverns (which scare me) but also tons of coal. I have a few stacks of the stuff now, and don't have much to do with them. So, now I'm working on some good armor and weapons and healing so I can clear out the caverns a bit better.

Now my new goal is finding more iron (I've gotten about 10 or so bars so far) and the better materials. Also, working on my greenhouse to grow me some wheat so I can make bread and such smile.gif

Oh, and trying to find some darn string. Only seen one spider and it didn't drop any string. I really wanted a bow.

Posted by: nemafow Sep 29 2010, 12:51 AM

2 million? I bet you this guy is pretty happy.

Posted by: Abschalten Sep 29 2010, 01:52 AM

What difficulty are you guys playing on? I started on Saturday night, but I haven't died yet.

I got mad lucky in some caverns. Got about six pieces of diamond. I have a fat-assed diamond sword and a diamond pick-axe that owns.

I have a nice bunker-style house, though now that I'm familiar with how to build stuff and how to look for ore, my ambitions have.... grown.

Posted by: CanadianWolverine Sep 29 2010, 03:11 AM

On the off chance my fellow forum goers here haven't seen these:

http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/1010842689_DYj3P-L.jpg
http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/1015419613_NYok6-L.jpg

http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss24/gpia7r/1285541495409.png

Edit: Hmm, those don't seem to be working with the img tags, so here they are as url

Oh and have fun looking at all the fun stuff on youtube that is Minecraft related, some of it has the potential to blow your mind.

Posted by: Karoline Sep 29 2010, 03:45 AM

Hadn't seen that last one.

And I'm playing on normal difficulty. My main problem so far has been 'splodin zombies, since they don't go away with sunlight.

Posted by: Voran Sep 29 2010, 08:01 AM

After giving up on my first world (too many sad memories of personal failure), I loaded up a 2nd world, and seem to be doing well. Heh I totally agree with that 2nd penny arcade strip. Day 1: Dig a hole in a wall. Day 2: Acquire more sand, wood, etc. Day 3: Castle Skyscraper.

What would be awesome is the ability to crank up the nighttime hordes, and also build catapults or semi-automated turrets. I mean, I've got like over 9000 tons of cobblestone that should make good weaponry if hurled across the landscape.

Only thing I'm noticing on my 2nd map so far is i'm running into a smaller frequency of diamond than my 1st map, but I'm still only on my first island, and oddly have a crap-ton of iron ore, so we'll see how things go.

Posted by: StealthSigma Sep 29 2010, 11:13 AM

QUOTE (CanadianWolverine @ Sep 28 2010, 11:11 PM) *
http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss24/gpia7r/1285541495409.png


I quite enjoy the guy in the lower right who is curled up in a hole.

Posted by: nemafow Sep 30 2010, 12:00 AM

Played this a bit last night, I'm obsessed with making my 'base' look awesome, I still have yet to workout how to get all the good stuff to make weapons and ect, but that will come in time and by playing it more.

Posted by: Voran Sep 30 2010, 02:04 AM

Been playing with the inventory editor on a copy of one of my 'not serious' worlds, largely to see how much fun I can have with nigh infinite stacks of TNT. Worldbuilding through explosives. smile.gif

Posted by: Karoline Oct 16 2010, 12:29 AM

So, just a little writing exercise of sorts that I did.

[ Spoiler ]

Posted by: Tanegar Feb 6 2011, 02:05 AM

QUOTE (Karoline @ Sep 27 2010, 09:45 PM) *
I seem to have a heck of a time finding coal, and no coal means no torches, which means no light, which makes it really hard to mine.

Sorry for the necro, but I just bought Minecraft a few days ago and I had to point out that you can, in fact, make torches without coal.

1) Build a crafting table. (Fill up the 2x2 crafting grid in your inventory with wooden planks.) This gives you access to the 3x3 crafting grid.
2) Place eight blocks of cobblestone around the perimeter of the 3x3 grid, leaving the center block empty. This creates a furnace.
3) Put wooden planks in the "fuel" slot of the furnace (bottom left), and raw wood in the "input" (top left). The furnace will automatically fire itself, converting the wood into charcoal in the "output" slot (right).
4) Use the charcoal like coal to create torches (one unit of charcoal above one stick in either crafting grid makes four torches).

It's a little roundabout, but an absolute necessity if you can't find coal the first day. I recommend building the crafting table and furnace as your first acts, and make some charcoal torches right off the bat just in case.

Posted by: Fabe Feb 6 2011, 09:40 PM

QUOTE (Tanegar @ Feb 5 2011, 09:05 PM) *
Sorry for the necro, but I just bought Minecraft a few days ago and I had to point out that you can, in fact, make torches without coal.

1) Build a crafting table. (Fill up the 2x2 crafting grid in your inventory with wooden planks.) This gives you access to the 3x3 crafting grid.
2) Place eight blocks of cobblestone around the perimeter of the 3x3 grid, leaving the center block empty. This creates a furnace.
3) Put wooden planks in the "fuel" slot of the furnace (bottom left), and raw wood in the "input" (top left). The furnace will automatically fire itself, converting the wood into charcoal in the "output" slot (right).
4) Use the charcoal like coal to create torches (one unit of charcoal above one stick in either crafting grid makes four torches).

It's a little roundabout, but an absolute necessity if you can't find coal the first day. I recommend building the crafting table and furnace as your first acts, and make some charcoal torches right off the bat just in case.

Just tried that out,thanks for the tip. It'll be easier then looking for a coal vein the next time I run out,safer too since you don't have to worry about running into monsters while mining.

Posted by: Tanegar Feb 7 2011, 01:57 AM

Minecraft is definitely a game in which, as Yahtzee put it, there is no shame in consulting http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki Or the wiki, as the case may be.

Posted by: PBTHHHHT Feb 7 2011, 07:12 PM

Played this for one week and stopped, it sucked too much time out of me. Still, I had a blast playing it, it was interesting to be able to build stuff. What was interesting was playing a bit on the multiplayer servers, there are some great stuff done with multiple folks working together.

Posted by: Fabe Feb 10 2011, 01:29 AM

Any one know of some good mulitplayer severs? I want to give the on-line aspect of the game a try

Posted by: Stahlseele Feb 10 2011, 04:40 PM

Someone built the Zelda Classic World in the Minecraft engine O.o

Posted by: Tanegar Feb 21 2011, 06:27 AM

So, I just built my first portal to the Nether. The Nether is not a nice place.

Posted by: Tiralee Feb 23 2011, 02:53 AM

Tried it (classic - free online version) yesterday noon, bought it 5pm last night, went to bed at 2am after spending 6 hours digging myself out of Moria (I delved too greedily, too deeply...) and into the bottom of the bay of the island I was inhabiting.

This game is pure crack.

1: as soon as you get some cobblestones, make a goddamned stone pick axe and don't waste an hour mining and wasting all that iron ore.
2: the lower you go, the more torches you'll want. Mine a good supply of wood (not boards) with a stone axe before delving too far.
3: Before heading to the centre of the earth, for god's sake, explore your islands/lands/forests first. After spending 2 hours making a makeshift fort, I stumbled across a perfect and naturally-defensible one. It only needed a damn door.
4: Don't be afraid of making too many tools or torches. The fancy stuff can wait while you're learning the ropes.
5: Wood -> Stone-> Iron -> Diamond. In the first half hour, you should have your first iron tool. Armour can wait until you've got a decent supply of iron or like hunting cows.
6: The wildlife.....elch, kill it before it kills you. A Lot.
7: Traps are fun. Physics kills and having a strip of lava over a source of water can and will kill anything not of the nether.
8: The nether sucks dog balls. Avoid until you've got a few copies of diamond weapons/tools and a biiiiiig supply of glass/obsidian blocks. And foods.
9: Ladders, although annoyingly painful to make, are mega-useful.
10: half-steps makes the spacebar wither from lack of use. Make friends with the shallow stair:)

Rant over.
PS: Check out the "space program" that some genius had done with the wildlife and a tnt cannon.
-Tir

Posted by: PBTHHHHT Feb 23 2011, 03:58 PM

heh, loved watching the video. The 72 tnt animal launching cannon was awesome was great, thanks for pointing it out. I loved the end part when he launches 5 or so cows one after another. Mooooooooo.......!
Watching the other space cannon, the guy launching himself upwards was interesting, particularly seeing how the game did the rendering (or didn't) at certain points as the guy was propeled several km's upward and the return to sweet, sweet... hard ground.

Posted by: Tanegar Feb 23 2011, 06:50 PM

QUOTE (Tiralee @ Feb 22 2011, 09:53 PM) *
1: as soon as you get some cobblestones, make a goddamned stone pick axe and don't waste an hour mining and wasting all that iron ore.

Sound advice, although I usually wait until my wood pickaxe wears out before making my first stone tools. Just out of curiosity, how much iron ore did you waste before you realized you can't mine iron with wooden tools?
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2: the lower you go, the more torches you'll want. Mine a good supply of wood (not boards) with a stone axe before delving too far.

As soon as I start finding coal in quantity, I make torches in lots of 64 (the maximum stack size). 64 torches will illuminate a fair-sized excavation or cavern.
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3: Before heading to the centre of the earth, for god's sake, explore your islands/lands/forests first. After spending 2 hours making a makeshift fort, I stumbled across a perfect and naturally-defensible one. It only needed a damn door.

More sound advice. Before undertaking any kind of large building project, dig out a hobbit-hole in a nearby hillside to live in while you work.
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4: Don't be afraid of making too many tools or torches. The fancy stuff can wait while you're learning the ropes.

Again, torches in lots of 64. Pickaxes, axes, and shovels in lots of four (one of each for the quickbar, plus three spares). You can skimp on spare axes, but you'll go through stone pickaxes and shovels like there's no tomorrow.
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5: Wood -> Stone-> Iron -> Diamond. In the first half hour, you should have your first iron tool. Armour can wait until you've got a decent supply of iron or like hunting cows.

Stone is my go-to tool material. Iron is too precious in my experience for everyday toolmaking. It goes into armor, minecarts, and minecart tracks, among other things. Make one iron pickaxe at a time to mine things that stone can't. Otherwise, save those ingots. There's no point whatsoever to iron axes or shovels.
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6: The wildlife.....elch, kill it before it kills you. A Lot.

Hunt spiders until you get enough string to make a bow (three units). Thereafter, seek out gravel for flint, and birds and zombies for feathers (don't ask why zombies drop feathers), and make as many arrows as you can. Once you have a bow, never engage in melee unless you have to.
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7: Traps are fun. Physics kills and having a strip of lava over a source of water can and will kill anything not of the nether.
8: The nether sucks dog balls. Avoid until you've got a few copies of diamond weapons/tools and a biiiiiig supply of glass/obsidian blocks. And foods.

On the subject of food: grilled pork chops will probably be the staple of your diet. Kill pigs for raw pork chops and use the furnace to cook them.
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9: Ladders, although annoyingly painful to make, are mega-useful.
10: half-steps makes the spacebar wither from lack of use. Make friends with the shallow stair:)

I like compact stairs in spiral staircases.

Also, beds were added in the update yesterday or the day before. Three wooden planks side by side underneath three wool blocks. Right-click on the bed at night to advance time to morning.

Posted by: Stahlseele Feb 23 2011, 08:10 PM

go to youtube, search for:
Minecraft Tutorial 01
keep watching all 30 or so parts.

Posted by: Tiralee Feb 24 2011, 12:09 AM

Because asked - I wasted about 40+ iron ores because I didn't read through the FAQ to realise that unless you use a stone tool, you can't get the ore. I was using up my wooden tools, btw:) Also wasted ~ 20 redstone for the same reason.

Also - Multiple bases are easy to make and great if you like to explore. Make a hole, door it up, shove in a furnace and a workbench, make 2 chests and you've got a home away from home (In case you find out you've built over an enormous magma bubble cave.)

Protip - make 2 chests, stick them next to each other, big chest results.

Protip - buckets! water and lava, respectively, you get the source and you're good to go. I love making a lava-lake my new highway because of all the obsidian now covering it...

Also - check out the other biomes! I'm in a snow-covered one and the natural caves are amazing, easily-accessable and defensible.
ATM: making Castle Greyskull. The drawbridge was tricky, but a water-filled moat and a defined current means that each morning, it's "loot da bodies" before I even think of lifing an axe. The ice is interesting, sort of wondering what to do with the snowballs.

Want: Siege weapons. Magic (Redstone, hmmmm) and things apart from creepers (No, not the nether, I've been good I have...NNNNoooooooo....)
Hell - having an invading force of vikings would be awesome, as long as you could "harden" your defences (Face with hardened stone, Obsidian maybe?)

TNT...good times, lotsa harvesting to get it though. Can make some awesome things by dropping down random holes for the lulz

Looking forward to the zombie apocalypse nights. That's going to be AWESOME....While in my floating castle, harvesting undead over my lake of lava.

If in a bolthole....not so good. Sorta sucks if you don't put the door on the right way as well:)

Tir

Posted by: Tanegar Feb 24 2011, 01:09 AM

Pro tip: Every time you mine out a gravel block, there is a chance it yields a flint instead of a gravel block. You can place and mine the same cube over and over until it yields a flint. Time-consuming, but more efficient than just mining every gravel pit you can find in hopes of randomly getting flint.

Posted by: Stahlseele Feb 25 2011, 01:23 AM

Minecraft is worse than tvtropes . .
also, i croaked and bought it <.<

Posted by: Fabe Feb 28 2011, 05:05 AM

5 guys,1 cave

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh36dhUPD_Q&feature=fvwrel

This like Laurie and Hardy meet the 3 Stooges

Posted by: Kronk2 Feb 28 2011, 07:28 AM

QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Sep 21 2010, 11:01 AM) *
Are you sure that isn't the point? The game might be a commentary on the desolate existence of the programmer, toiling in solitude to construct virtual palaces that no one will appreciate.

~J


Most of my friends over @ gearbox LOVE this game

Posted by: Stahlseele Feb 28 2011, 12:20 PM

i hate ONE thing about minecraft . . . . . .
*ssssssssssssssssssssss* followed by BOOM <.<

Posted by: Tanegar Feb 28 2011, 08:11 PM

QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Feb 28 2011, 07:20 AM) *
i hate ONE thing about minecraft . . . . . .
*ssssssssssssssssssssss* followed by BOOM <.<

Creepers are the spawn of Hell. On this, there is consensus.

Posted by: Stahlseele Feb 28 2011, 08:17 PM

i had a nice little shelter built for myself . .
a bed, work wench, furnace, 2 large boxes for stuff . .
from the outside it was a nice looking little thing too!
Cobblestone foundation, wood and sand walls, glass windows, a little fence, some trees, flowers and cacti . . the works!
i worked on that for several hours.
i went from that to a small little 5x5x4 completely cobblestone hole in the ground in a matter of 5 seconds due to 3 creepers deciding to all blow up right there -.-

Posted by: KarmaInferno Feb 28 2011, 09:09 PM

Shouldn't it be possible to build defensive structures around a home to ward off creepers and the occasional runaway lava flow?

Or just build the home such that these things can't get to it? I see a lot of "floating" structures in the videos on YouTube.





-k

Posted by: Stahlseele Feb 28 2011, 09:38 PM

yeah, sure, but first: i wanted to make it look really nice and homely . . and second, where's the fun in that? <.<

Posted by: Tanegar Feb 28 2011, 10:15 PM

Different materials resist damage (like exploding creepers) to different degrees. Sand is, AFAIK, the second least sturdy material after glass. Build your house with cobblestone walls. Creepers will still be able to damage it, but are unlikely to destroy it outright. Also, if you know there are creepers right next to your house, lure them away! If you leave the creeper's blast radius before it actually explodes, its "fuse" resets, so run like hell to a defensible position.

Posted by: Stahlseele Mar 1 2011, 01:21 AM

i allways forget to make lots of bows and arrows <.<
also, i have taken to dwarfism . . i simply burrow down into natural stone and make my home in there . .

Posted by: Tanegar Mar 1 2011, 01:46 AM

Caves, natural or otherwise, make the best starter homes in my experience. Tunnel downward for stone and other resources, then build an exterior house on top of it. Keep the original bunker as a fallback position. Don't forget doors, not just on the outside, but to separate your "living space" from your ever-expanding mine system where monsters tend to spawn.

Posted by: Tiralee Mar 1 2011, 04:55 AM

Made a pit trap from hell (~ 80 blocks deep, 10x 12 wide all by pickaxe:)) and now have more pork than a government contractor. And eggs! Now all I need is milk, maple syrup and I can have pancakes and bacon.

Note: watercourse traps don't work well unless you drown the target (or lavablade them) so the downward "shaft" needs to be enclosed, or they'll just float down safely. Duh me.

Shall make the npc harvester later on, but need more diamond, so might start afresh - god I love unlimited water, took me too long to get the hang of it frown.gif

Oh, can someone answer for me - is Obsidian the best thing to resist damage from fire-ball hurling undead? Thanks. (It hit a couple of creepers and things got messy for a while.) putting in "reactive armour" (sand or gravel between walls) is good if your walls are high enough that the undead don't use it as a ramp to get closer to you.

Other things - once you hit admin rock, you can make a dropshaft (straight down) with 3 blocks deep water and you can drop forever and get out safely. You can also slow yourself by putting a waterfall down the shaft, but do line any voids with glass bricks so you know where you're going:)

Happy mining,

Tir.

Posted by: Tanegar Mar 1 2011, 05:46 PM

According to the http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Obsidian, obsidian is impervious to explosions.

Posted by: Stahlseele Mar 1 2011, 05:53 PM

Yeah, but that needs diamond to be mined.
And i have not found a SINGLE diamond yet.
Heck, i don't even have 40 iron . .
Coal is not an issue, due to being able to burn wood with wood to get charcoal . .

Posted by: Stahlseele Mar 1 2011, 09:29 PM

For all of us playing MineCraft and wanting a bit more bling in our games:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=65936

Posted by: Tanegar Mar 1 2011, 11:27 PM

Those high-res mob skins are nightmare fuel. No, thanks.

Posted by: Stahlseele Mar 2 2011, 12:21 AM

To Paraphrase indiana jones:"Spiders . . why did it have to be spiders?"

edit:
*snickers*
this is now the second board where the textures are regarded as creepy pasta ^^

Posted by: StealthSigma Mar 3 2011, 02:25 PM

I've been playing on a server with some friends from WoW.

I took over an island to build on. My first order if business is to setup the dirt fields that I'm going to use to plant trees that will take care of my wood needs. I want to be able to have about 9 trees growing at once and I'm planning on planting trees with a 4 block gap between them. Once I've done that, then it's digging downward to get enough stone to start building the island fortress.

Posted by: Stahlseele Mar 3 2011, 02:41 PM

Remember: you can only go 64 blocks upwards/downwards.
It's basically soil, stone,(minerals somewhere in here) lava, administration.
Then comes the nether, if you can get a portal going.
One does not simply dig into Nether.

Posted by: PBTHHHHT Mar 3 2011, 04:02 PM

Man, with all this talk about minecraft here, maybe there's enough to get a dumpshock multiplayer server going or something.

Posted by: Stahlseele Mar 3 2011, 05:18 PM

Maybe, but i don't know how one would go about something like that.
And seeing how it's Java based, the load is pretty huge. And it's complicated <.<

Posted by: StealthSigma Mar 3 2011, 07:23 PM

QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Mar 3 2011, 12:18 PM) *
Maybe, but i don't know how one would go about something like that.
And seeing how it's Java based, the load is pretty huge. And it's complicated <.<


You can download the client instead of running it in java.

Posted by: Stahlseele Mar 3 2011, 07:26 PM

you can download the .exe but it's STILL Java.
same on the server side.
If that were not the case, it would not be cross plattform compatible between linsux, windumb and crapple OS suX

Posted by: Fabe Mar 4 2011, 06:21 AM

QUOTE (PBTHHHHT @ Mar 3 2011, 11:02 AM) *
Man, with all this talk about minecraft here, maybe there's enough to get a dumpshock multiplayer server going or something.



At the very least we should find a already running mulitplayer survival server and play there.

Posted by: Tanegar Mar 4 2011, 09:04 AM

Interesting minor tidbit: Cobblestone can be smelted into placeable blocks of regular stone. Presumably for those who want the smooth, seamless look for their Fortresses of Doom.

Posted by: Stahlseele Mar 4 2011, 09:17 AM

That and it's also more explosion resistant than cobble stone.
Also, you can make metal blocks that let you repair tools i think.

Posted by: Tiralee Mar 7 2011, 03:51 AM

RAGEQUIT

I'll be back, I know it, but after falling twice (!!) to my devillishly-mundane lava trap (and my gear ) I've decided to take a break from that game.

Yeah, for all of 4 hours last night.

Bloody hell, made my first tnt and spent the next 20 minutes cackling as I watched lambs and pigs trot over my mine-laiden landscape.
Protip: Mining with tnt is worth the time.
ProTip2: bury the damn TNT! God, makes a helluva hole then. Detonate whenever enough animals are there for a laugh.
Protip 3: Don't chase arrow-firing skeletons while holding tnt and forget where the activated tnt is. (fell into a big-ass hole I'd "dug" with a wandering cow earlier. To quote Leo, "We need to go deeper.")

Also, nothing creepier then watching a wandering zombie horde backlight by the backscatter light of an enormous cavern, unless it's hearing them all moan and come toward you enmasse, arrows leading. Right into the Lavablade, MUHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHHAAAAAaaaaaa...SSssssssss....BOOOM! (Obsidian worked better, redesigned the blade as well.)

-Tir

Posted by: Stahlseele Mar 7 2011, 06:46 AM

*snickers*
yah, i feel your pain ^^

Posted by: Tiralee Mar 9 2011, 02:13 AM

Was all worth it once the Lavainator 4000 finally worked (after teething problems, lava and obsidian)
~1500 items an hour, could be hugely optimised. And made into an "above ground" trapper as well, to get some of them tasty animals.

Left it running for 6 hours, inventoy was full. Emptied inventory, was full again....lotsa feathers, bones, arrows, not as many gunpowder as I'd have liked.

Still, have enough for 124 tnt, so that's got to be fun later on


Mining! It's about explosions!

Tir.

Posted by: Stahlseele Mar 9 2011, 06:19 AM

*nods* suddenly, the mountain on which i had built my little keep, had vanished right from under my shelter o.O

Posted by: Tiralee Mar 10 2011, 12:36 AM

God damn, that took ages, but it was fun.

I dug a 60+ deep hole, in the ocean (I cofferdamned the lot) and planted trees about, now I just watch as all sort of thing fall into the lavainator. 80x50x60 is a helluva lot of iton picks and TNT.smile.gif)

TNT, hmmm. Sadly, not so great for finding gems. Great for finding lava lakes that drain into your home.
-Tir

Dragonage 2 today, huzzah

Posted by: Stahlseele Mar 10 2011, 06:18 AM

one can only go 64 blocks deep or up, due to engine limitations.
did you fill the ground with lava? how doyou get the items then?

Posted by: Dumori Mar 10 2011, 02:16 PM

QUOTE (Tiralee @ Mar 10 2011, 12:36 AM) *
God damn, that took ages, but it was fun.

I dug a 60+ deep hole, in the ocean (I cofferdamned the lot) and planted trees about, now I just watch as all sort of thing fall into the lavainator. 80x50x60 is a helluva lot of iton picks and TNT.smile.gif)

TNT, hmmm. Sadly, not so great for finding gems. Great for finding lava lakes that drain into your home.
-Tir

Dragonage 2 today, huzzah

Wait you have DA2 I have 9 more hours to wait.

Posted by: Squiddy Attack Mar 19 2011, 04:14 AM

Bah, I've finally been dragged into Minecraft... Help! It's eating my soul!

I've burrowed out a nice underground bunker, and am building the "Tower of Trathira" on top of it. grinbig.gif I think maybe I'll attach a floating island to the tower when I'm done...

Only problem is, though, creepers absolutely love my door for some reason. I swear my http://www.jhgghyu.com/blahgblahg/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/doorcreeper.png, and there was one time a creeper blew me up (and blew open the entrance to my bunker!) while I was repairing the damage from a previous creeper bombing my door.

And then a third creeper blew up my door again first thing the next morning. spin.gif

Posted by: Tanegar Mar 19 2011, 04:35 AM

Dig a secondary entrance to your bunker. If there's a creeper at the front door, go out the back, lead it away, and kill it. It helps to have a bow.

Posted by: Squiddy Attack Mar 19 2011, 05:29 AM

I can drop into a tree from the top of my tower and lead them out into the water.

Interestingly, I've noticed they're a lot less likely to explode on you in the water than on land.

Posted by: Stahlseele Mar 19 2011, 06:54 PM

THAT is only in your mind. Believe you me.
I have been playing for more than a week straight by now <.<;,
easiest way to keep them from blowing up your door is having kill holes in the ground.
AS LONG AS A CREEPER DOES NOT SEE YOU, IT WILL NOT EXPLODE.
So, if you are on level -1 and creeper is on level 0 and there is a block above you at +1 so you can see it's feet but it can't see your head, it should not go boom at all, no matter how much you are hitting it.
but remember that hitting it WILL make it jumb back a bit and thus see you.
run to door, hit THROUGH DOOR ONCE
run back away from door, wait 5 to 10 seconds.
repeat untill creeper is dead.
the timer for going boom resets after some time.

Posted by: Squiddy Attack Mar 19 2011, 10:43 PM

Actually, I meant it more specifically when fighting them.
If I kill a creeper on land, it explodes and breaks something. So far, this hasn't happened if I lead it out into the sea.

Posted by: Stahlseele Mar 20 2011, 12:03 AM

if you kill it, it should not explode period O.o
it only explodes if the timer goes down to 0.
you playing online or offline?

Posted by: Squiddy Attack Mar 20 2011, 01:59 AM

Hm. In that case, what I'm seeing is that they never decide to explode while I'm fighting them in water.

Posted by: Stahlseele Mar 20 2011, 11:12 AM

Very Strange.
Do you play offline or online?
If online, on which server?

Posted by: Squiddy Attack Mar 20 2011, 07:44 PM

Offline.

Posted by: Stahlseele Mar 20 2011, 08:06 PM

Ah.
If you find a nice server to play on, you are going to have much more fun i hope ^^

Posted by: KarmaInferno Mar 21 2011, 10:34 PM

So, if you build a well lit floating base, shouldn't it be more or less immune to most monster attacks?




-k

Posted by: Stahlseele Mar 21 2011, 10:37 PM

mostly, but remember, YOU still have to go out and do stuff.

Posted by: PBTHHHHT Apr 13 2011, 09:52 PM

Article/review of a game in beta stage that is similar in style to minecraft, but different... http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/04/13/10-reasons-you-need-to-play-ace-of-spades/#more-56887.

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 13 2011, 09:54 PM

*blink blink* O.o

Posted by: Fabe Sep 7 2011, 11:17 PM

So who's looking forward to the 1.8 update better known as the Adventure Update?

Posted by: Stahlseele Sep 7 2011, 11:21 PM

i'm a bit meh about it . . .
gonna fucking hate the new enderman mob <.<

wish they implemented stuff from the BETTER THAN WOLVES mod . .

Posted by: Fabe Sep 8 2011, 12:07 AM

QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Sep 7 2011, 07:21 PM) *
i'm a bit meh about it . . .
gonna fucking hate the new enderman mob <.<

wish they implemented stuff from the BETTER THAN WOLVES mod . .


Yeah the endermen do sound like they will be a bitch to deal with but hopefully it'll just make things more interesting with out making things too hard to be enjoyable.

Posted by: CanadianWolverine Sep 9 2011, 02:21 PM

I am looking forward to messing up a NPC village just because its Minecraft - so, yeah, I am looking forward to the Adventure Update a great deal. To me it will be like when MP gained monsters, it adds a fun new flavour that usually pertains to dying with diamonds in lava or something.

Posted by: Fabe Sep 9 2011, 11:56 PM

I might end up moving into a village if i find one I like. Maybe I'll even build a wall around it as well, turn it into a fortress.

Posted by: Seriously Mike Sep 10 2011, 11:30 AM

QUOTE (Fabe @ Sep 10 2011, 01:56 AM) *
I might end up moving into a village if i find one I like. Maybe I'll even build a wall around it as well, turn it into a fortress.

That's a good idea! I think I'll start my game anew and just invedit the useful stuff to make myself more at home (pretty much only slime blobs).

Posted by: Tiralee Sep 15 2011, 01:33 AM

Version 1.8 now....holy crap Notch has taken it up a little. Time to farm foods frown.gif
And yeah, hating the Slendermen. SOOO much.

Posted by: Stahlseele Sep 15 2011, 11:45 AM

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?587348-Minecraft-Elysium-1.7.3-and-more-if-Notch-gets-his-act-together./page25
me and bull sometimes frequent this one, if you are feeling like multiplayer . .

Posted by: Tanegar Sep 17 2011, 09:43 PM

I've been playing 1.8.1 a bit and I don't really see the problem with the Endermen. Yeah, they can be annoying, even fatal, but creepers are still way worse.

Posted by: Tiralee Sep 20 2011, 03:26 AM

Also, hating the "hunger" system.

Farming slimes for EXP out the ying-yang in my befogged forest of torment at Bedrock 5+.
Thinking back, yeah, it was a stupid place to put my railroad/evil lairage, but it does look cool.

Hating the Endermen as I had ~ 7 spawn closeby, plus some aggro spiders and arrow-tossing skeletons. And all I had was tnt (I was remodelling a hill) Things got hectic.

Apart from that, I've had this environment since 1.6 and the 1.81 game just drops on me sometimes.
Had a creeper spawn in a very well lit complex, jumped out of my minecart and arrowed the fucker from ~ 40 squares away. That was odd as this tunnel only has one entry/exit and about 1 torch per 2m. (it looks prettier)

No silverfish yet, but they're going to kill me, with the tunnelling I do. Want to make some iron bars, but I need my iron for the railway (gold too)
The plate glass is awesome, makes for nice balconies, bachelor pads....smile.gif


Started another world to see what the fuss was about - what loaded up was a volcanic craig/fantasy landscape.
Managed to have a bunker in an off-shore finger of rock with glass windows and iron tools by sunset the first day (just got lucky with positioning).
Exploring and looting like a mofo...food's likely to become a problem unless I impliment a baconator/chicken grinder. Haven't seen a cow yet, might be the wrong biome, but have had more sheep turn up than a NZ Swinger's convention.
Spiders are about but only move in groups of 3 (! - the fuck did this happen Notch?!) and no Creepers yet....Ok, that I can enjoy.

Started afresh as I want to find a town/stronghold and glass the sucker in and make a biodome:)

God, there's a desert biome, plus cactus forest, not more than 200m from startpoint. Hello biological wall of death....


-Tir

Posted by: Stahlseele Sep 20 2011, 10:35 PM

Anybody figured out how to get a 512x512 Texture Pack working in 1.8.1 yet? <.<
I can't, for the life of me, figure out how to get it to work without getting an OUT OF MEMORY Error . .
And no, my Computers is NOT out of Memory. The Q9650/GTX580 has 8Gigs and the i72630QM/GTX460M has 16Gigs <.<

Posted by: Stahlseele Sep 21 2011, 09:46 PM

OK, i got it to work!
WARNING: This will make your Computer WISH for MWLL on MAXIMUM Tripple Screen!
Put THIS:

QUOTE
@echo off
java -client -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+UseAdaptiveGCBoundary -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=500 -XX:-UseGCOverheadLimit -XX:SurvivorRatio=12 -Xnoclassgc -XX:UseSSE=3 -Xincgc -Xmx2048M -cp Minecraft.exe net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
exit

Into a .bat file that is IN THE SAME FOLDER as your MINECRAFT.EXE.
With this, you can play without running into the OUT OF MEMORY Error.
Unless you really DO run out of Memory. Seriously. I got MineCraft to use up all 8 Gigs of RAM in my Computer.
Gonna try my Laptop with the 16Gigs next!

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