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Posted by: Mortax Jan 14 2006, 09:24 PM

So, do weapon foci count to focus addiction in 2nd and 3rd edition? Without books, and can't remember.

Thanks all!

Posted by: Mr.Platinum Jan 14 2006, 09:49 PM

YES!

Posted by: Straight Razor Jan 14 2006, 09:55 PM

yep

Posted by: Mr.Platinum Jan 14 2006, 10:02 PM

anyone else have a different way of saying yes with us?

Posted by: Tanka Jan 14 2006, 10:30 PM

Hai!

Si!

Ja!

Oui!

And on, and on, and on...

Posted by: Kagetenshi Jan 14 2006, 11:17 PM

1

~J

Posted by: Calvin Hobbes Jan 14 2006, 11:45 PM

Uh-huh

You bet.

That is correct.

Gold star!

Yesserino!

Posted by: RunnerPaul Jan 15 2006, 01:47 AM

Yes-a-ress-a-bingbong!

The Yes-meister! Makin' copies!

Posted by: Mr.Platinum Jan 15 2006, 02:54 AM

you are all great in my mind.

Posted by: Critias Jan 15 2006, 03:31 AM

No, they don't.

Posted by: Sandoval Smith Jan 15 2006, 03:32 PM

はい！　そうだー

QUOTE

No, they don't.

何でえんねん？
Well, there's nothing in either 3rd Ed, or MitS that says they're exempt from that, but then again they aren't used in the same way that a sustaining, or power focus is. Has this been something that's come up in debate before?

Posted by: Mr.Platinum Jan 15 2006, 03:37 PM

QUOTE (Sandoval Smith)

はい！　そうだー

QUOTE

No, they don't.

You are spending Karma to bond the focus, so I still say Yes.

and Critias wheres your back up? page references? proove me wrong, i know you want to cause i make you angery.

and if you guys would like to check further i know there is a couple of other focus addiction threads out there .

Posted by: Mr.Platinum Jan 15 2006, 03:42 PM

http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=4190&hl=focus+addiction

ah heres one, and there is another also posted by moon hawk.

Posted by: Glyph Jan 16 2006, 05:26 AM

I think he just said no as an ironic commentary on all of the recurring "yes" variations.

But he forgot to use the smiley.

How are we supposed to know someone is being sarcastic, if they don't label it for us?

Posted by: Mr.Platinum Jan 17 2006, 12:16 PM

The rule is also optional, it's just for controling power mongering Mages.

Posted by: Mortax Jan 17 2006, 08:32 PM

Yes, however I veiw it as a nessisary rule. If there is no focus addiction, and grounding is gone, what is the downside to useing an uber focus of doom?

Posted by: nick012000 Jan 18 2006, 01:24 AM

1. Karma cost
2. Monetary cost

If you can pay the costs, you'll be weaker in other areas, because you didn't spend it on them.

Posted by: Lindt Jan 18 2006, 05:24 AM

Wards? The fact that you light up like times square in the astral? Gremlins?

Posted by: Nidhogg Jan 18 2006, 05:38 AM

I concur. I can see little point in penalising a mage for having uber-foci that he has earned and paid the cost for. If you must place restrictions on the player's toys, then just have the smart enemies take called shots against his foci until he stops abusing them.

Posted by: nick012000 Jan 18 2006, 06:38 AM

And don't forget that even though grounding is gone, they can still be blown up by an astral Manabolt.

Posted by: emo samurai Jan 18 2006, 06:41 AM

Can they be masked?

Posted by: nick012000 Jan 18 2006, 06:50 AM

You can mask a total Force in foci equal to your initiate grade.

Posted by: Critias Jan 18 2006, 07:40 AM

QUOTE (Mr.Platinum)

QUOTE (Sandoval Smith @ Jan 15 2006, 03:32 PM)

はい！　そうだー

QUOTE

No, they don't.

I was just being contrary. Calm down, little buddy. It'll be okay.

Posted by: Nyxll Jan 18 2006, 03:02 PM

QUOTE (Mortax @ Jan 17 2006, 03:32 PM)

Yes, however I veiw it as a nessisary rule. If there is no focus addiction, and grounding is gone, what is the downside to useing an uber focus of doom?

1. All of the attention you are going to attract.
2. The difficulty in masking them.
3. Cost / difficulty in getting/making them
4. and of course losing them.

if the group is caught, any opposing mage will lock the thing away. Now your mage will be weaker than the generic mage that spent the karma on magic instead.