I've created a new http://pavao.org/shadowrun/index.html page for tools and stuff I've done up for Shadowrun (specifically Fourth Edition). Right now the only thing on there is my hacker cards, but it's a start. I'm doing up some cheat sheets for some fellow players, and I'll probably put those up, too.
Nice. Can you do a more printerfriendly version?
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| Nice. Can you do a more printerfriendly version? |
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It's quite friendly to my printer, but I've got a pretty nice one. What do you need? |
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| I think it would be much friendlier to have it be a white background with black characters rather than white on green. |
I have a B&W laser printer.
The new version is perfect. I dislike wasting toner on background colour.
Nice choice of pictures. And good idea. Pitty the only cards I can give up says "Magic" on the back of them. I guess I'll just have to print back sides with the familiar "S" to cover it up.
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| I have a B&W laser printer. The new version is perfect. I dislike wasting toner on background colour. |
Hah. If I give up cards to this, they'll be MechWarrior cards. At least they'll be VAGUELY appropriate, in a corporate sense. ![]()
I solved my printer problem the easy way; printed them on the high-quality laser at work. Muuuuch nicer than I can get at home.
Thanks for the link and your work!!
AJC
Awesome work! Much appreciated!
Pretty Cool and useful
What else do you intend on puting on your site?
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| Pretty Cool and useful What else do you intend on puting on your site? |
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| What else do you intend on puting on your site? |
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| Seriously, do you accept submissions and such? |
Not sure how to deal with some of the tasks you can do in SR4? Fear not! I've made a few cheat sheets in PDF format, detailing how to deal with melee combat, ranged combat, and summoning, with more to come. Just print out one sheet for each weapon, spirit, etc.
http://pavao.org/shadowrun/
If there's a cheat sheet you're looking for, let me know.
That's a really nifty sheet Aaron- breaks it right down perfectly step by step for my newbie players. Thanks for the hard work man
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These are great! You'd better believe copies will be handed out to my players on friday. Thanks much!
Very well done. Keep them coming, too. I'll be taking these to con games that I run for players
Aaron, I think those cheat sheets are PERFECT.
Would you consider doing them for casting a spell, astral combat, banishing a spirit, matrix combat, and drone combat?
Out of curiosity, what did you use to make them? Adobe Illustrator, or just like Word and print to PDF, or what?
Indeed, kudos Aaron.
Just printed mine off! Bravo!
very nice!
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| Would you consider doing them for casting a spell, astral combat, banishing a spirit, matrix combat, and drone combat? Out of curiosity, what did you use to make them? Adobe Illustrator, or just like Word and print to PDF, or what? |
This is absolutely fantastic work, Aaron. Keep it up!
And lo, there were drones.
I've added Drone Combat to the cheat sheets. I'll get the rest in there as they're finished.
Did you ever know that you're my hero Aaron?
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| Did you ever know that you're my hero Aaron? |
wow so daatasearch is only used for one program and software/hardware really isn't used for matrix actions
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| wow so daatasearch is only used for one program and software/hardware really isn't used for matrix actions |
I have added cybercombat to the cheat sheet pdf http://pavao.org/shadowrun/, and I am currently working on a node record sheet for GMs.
Also, the file officially no longer fits on a floppy.
who uses floppys anyways?
hmm, i like the cheat sheets, but one thing im missing is a collection of modifiers for diffrent stuff, and a list of all combat actions (physcial, matrix, magic and vehicle) in one long list (no description needed, just the name and the "complexity").
ok, so i could toss it together myself but im lazy
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| who uses floppys anyways? |
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hmm, i like the cheat sheets, but one thing im missing is a collection of modifiers for diffrent stuff, and a list of all combat actions (physcial, matrix, magic and vehicle) in one long list (no description needed, just the name and the "complexity"). |
good to hear that ![]()
hmm, those cheat sheets are effective as a refrence source even tho one do not have one sheet pr "weapon"
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| hmm, i like the cheat sheets, but one thing im missing is a collection of modifiers for diffrent stuff, and a list of all combat actions (physcial, matrix, magic and vehicle) in one long list (no description needed, just the name and the "complexity"). ok, so i could toss it together myself but im lazy |
I don't think any of Aaron's thunder is stolen at all...
That 'GM Screen' is a 14 page pdf with no organization whatsoever! It's a hoshposh assembled series of tables with no table of contents, no page titles and no order to it whatsoever... The buddy just grabbed the tables as they appeared in the book and made them pretty, or so it looks like.
Not a resource I find adequate at all.
He may call it a GM's screen, but it's really a bunch of cheat sheets. He could call it strawberry shortcake, that wouldn't change what it's supposed to be used for: quick, on-the-fly rules reference.
But you're right Dranem, it is poorly organized. But it still has a lot of info that Aaron's document doesn't (visibility, ranged and melee combat, and defense mods; called-shot and burst fire summaries; free/simple/complex action breakdowns; social situation mods; non-combat related matrix actions; etc). Having info that is poorly layed out and disorganized is better than not having that info at all.
Besides, with a little photoshopping, I can change the layout to my heart's content.
EDIT: Like I said before, I'm not saying that the 'GM's Screen' is better than what Aaron has, I'm just trying to make people aware of it. Aaron's cheet sheets have nifty little 'how-to's for combat that my players and I find very useflul, it just doesn't have EVERYTHING we want.
Dude, a quickly assembled, half-assed attempt of making a 'cheat sheet' reference is hardly what I call a quick on-the-fly rules reference... You might as well dig through the book for all that it's usefull.. at least the Actions Table at the back of the SR4 BBB has page references so that you can quickly access the information.
You jumble those sheets together or put one out of order and you're 'quick reference guide' is pretty much useless.
Aaaron still holds credit for having something coherent and quick to use, I would stop trying to validate the other source you mention, it's hardly worth my time to re-dit 14 pages of random unlabelled tables.
I have some 3rd and 4th edition hacker tools on my personal site, feel free to consolidate them onto your site. They are excel based and I have a new tool in the works for calculating run prices and keeping track of generic goon squads.
Uhhh, the tables are labeled. And the organization isn't THAT bad, it's just not perfect. And it's a lot easier to flip through 14 single sided pages than the 350 double sided pages of the BBB (I know it refers to the main book, what exactly does it stand for?).
But you're right, I should stop trying to defend it because now that I think about it, I really don't care what you think of it. You use whatever resources you want, and I'll use whatever I want. I'm simply putting it out there for those who want it. Obviously you don't, and that's just fine by me.
As for you, Aaron; keep up the good work.
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| I have some 3rd and 4th edition hacker tools on my personal site, feel free to consolidate them onto your site. They are excel based and I have a new tool in the works for calculating run prices and keeping track of generic goon squads. |
Sorry, in my head I posted the links. My body didn't read the memo...
http://home.comcast.net/~nik-224/
Folks, there's no need to argue over which sheet is better. Everybody will find different ones to work better for themselves. I designed mine with the new player in mind, with the expectation that a GM could enforce situational modifiers; they're entirely from the point of view of the player. The pdf linked above is comprehensive but complicated, mostly because it was designed for a different purpose.
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| (I know it refers to the main book, what exactly does it stand for?). |
No joke, I've added a node record sheet to the cheat sheets on my http://pavao.org/shadowrun. They're intended to help the GM keep track of all the information on important nodes in a run.
Please give me feedback on this or any of my resources sheets, if there is anything reasonable you can think of to make them more useful.
Next up, either a list of modifiers, a grunt record sheet, or a spellcasting cheat sheet, depending on my mood when I start the next one.
Can I vote? I'd like to see the spellcasting sheet next, or the list of mod's.
BTW: These cheat sheets rock! I'm going to give a copy to each player (the ones that apply anyway)
These are fabulous, and I hope that you continue to find the time to create/update!
hrmf, that gm sheet use colors. i cant set my printer to only print black and white...
btw, i think the images on the matrix combat page is upside down
Once again, I've added to the cheat sheets file on my http://pavao.org/shadowrun, this time two pages for spellcasting: indirect combat and generic. Next up: situational modifiers.
For those of you coming late to the game, here's something like a current table of contents (subject to change at a moment's notice):
Aaron, this is some really good stuff. Thanks so much.
Wonderful work, Aaron
Many of the sheets say "roll defense pool". Defense pool isn't really covered on your sheets, but has enough options that it maybe should get it's own sheet.
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| Many of the sheets say "roll defense pool". Defense pool isn't really covered on your sheets, but has enough options that it maybe should get it's own sheet. |
A few bits of news:
hmm, i had some complaints from players about the official SR4 character sheets. is there some fan-creations in circulation?
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| hmm, i had some complaints from players about the official SR4 character sheets. is there some fan-creations in circulation? |
The Cheat Sheets on my http://pavao.org/shadowrun/ page now feature single-page downloads. Have at 'em.
the vehicle record sheet link is broken.
i have a feel that the vehicle sheet part will cover most of my problems. but as i dont have a printer that can be set to print black&white prints of color pdfs (or anything else color for that matter), a simple black&white char sheet (modular sounds nice as one can then have bigger spell lists for spellcasters and so on) would be very satisfying
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| the vehicle record sheet link is broken. |
heh, i think ill grab the individual files, it makes it simpler to print the sheet i want compared to the big one.
btw: while i have not checked the last version of the big file, i notice that a lot of the images used are flipped upside down...
edit: never mind, looks like its fixed in the latest version
I love your sheets. I have two requests:
1. a sheet of condition monitors.
2. a sheet for keeping track of contacts.
Thanks!
hmm, yes. a npc/grunt sheet would be nice (a single damage track as the basics of skills and stats).
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| btw: while i have not checked the last version of the big file, i notice that a lot of the images used are flipped upside down... edit: never mind, looks like its fixed in the latest version |
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| 1. a sheet of condition monitors. 2. a sheet for keeping track of contacts. |
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You're the only one who has reported that, hob. I never had that problem, and I tested it with several machines. Has anybody else had this problem? |
The site: http://pavao.org/shadowrun
The update: Grunt/NPC record sheet.
Up next: Defense cheat sheets.
Woot!
You are awesome! Much thanks!
I've added the beginnings of a modular character sheet to my http://pavao.org/shadowrun/ page. It's just the first page for now, but I'll be adding more later.
I'm still working on the defense cheat sheet.
For those who just tuned in, here's a list of what's there already (encased in a spoiler so as not to bore the people who already know this).
One thing I've found very useful in the past is having lists of all free, simple and complex actions possible handy for the players. The GM can mostly help them through procedures, but they need to know their options most of all. I'm just going to print the table in the back of the book, but if I was making cheat sheets for different parts of the rules; I would have a list of actions on there too. Just a thought.
Good job Aaron, and good luck with the rest of that character sheet.
check the unoffical GM screen. one of the pages there is a complete list of actions.
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| check the unoffical GM screen. one of the pages there is a complete list of actions. |
sadly im unlikely to pick up a gm screen from fanpro (unless they pull the same stunt that fasa did with 3ed, packaging a monster book with it).
im more likely to pick gear books and similar...
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| sadly im unlikely to pick up a gm screen from fanpro (unless they pull the same stunt that fasa did with 3ed, packaging a monster book with it). im more likely to pick gear books and similar... |
most of them will be variants of the ones in the main book most of the time...
SR GM screen 4 will come with its own version of Critters/Contacts/Enemies book. I plan to get it when ever it comes out.
hmm, so there will be critters in there to? maybe ill get it then, alltho my priority is the "gear" books.
the interesting thing is that often, the best enemy is fellow humans...
I have the PDF and there aren't any critters with the PDF version. The included book is about 1/2 contacts and 1/2 adventure ideas with the SR3 to SR4 conversion rules added at the end.
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| most of them will be variants of the ones in the main book most of the time... |
| QUOTE (Aaron @ Feb 27 2006, 03:59 PM) |
| I've created a new http://pavao.org/shadowrun/index.html page for tools and stuff I've done up for Shadowrun (specifically Fourth Edition). Right now the only thing on there is my hacker cards, but it's a start. I'm doing up some cheat sheets for some fellow players, and I'll probably put those up, too. |
I've been busy preparing my events for Gen Con, but I've set aside some time for the cheat sheets, and I've added defense to my http://pavao.org/shadowrun/ page.
There's more stuff on my http://pavao.org/shadowrun page:
Mr Aaron, I found your site randomly online, and then this thread, thanks for all your efforts I've found them simple and informative.
Banishing is up.
http://pavao.org/shadowrun/ (for those of you who can't find the link)
While prepping for the a game I'm running tonight, it occurred to me that I could use a sheet for keeping track of NPCs, what the book calls "Prime Runners." So I made one, and now I'm sharing.
You can find it at my http://pavao.org/shadowrun page, now featuring legal disclaimers.
Let me know if there's anything else I can add to the NPC sheet, or if there is anything else you'd like to see on that page.
FYI, some of the links are broken.
The character sheets, for one.
Why does the Node Record Sheet have a Node Damage Track? You can't damage a node, you can only crash it. Is it the Spider's Persona Track? His Condition Monitor?
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| Why does the Node Record Sheet have a Node Damage Track? You can't damage a node, you can only crash it. Is it the Spider's Persona Track? His Condition Monitor? |
AH HA!!! Thank you. That name confused me....
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Yeah, that's for a spider who is using the node, or more specifically for her icon. The damage track in the spider's section is for when you thump her with a Black* program. |
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| i take it the 8+(system/2) under the spider damage track was just you being lazy and copying the damage track you have used everywhere else... |
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| still, isnt there a chance that said spider would be under attack from blackout as well as black hammer? oh wait, he will propably be a unimportant npc and therefor get a combined damage track |
The cheat sheets on my http://pavao.org/shadowrun page has been updated to include a four-page spirit reference guide. The first two pages contain stat info on the ten PC spirit types, and the last two pages are the same stats for hermetic and shamanic traditions individually.
Still working on the critter conversion.
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