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Posted by: Samaels Ghost Jun 18 2006, 08:04 PM

Would a Deltaware Commlink in your head cost:

(2000*10)+commlink cost

OR

(2000+commlink cost) * 10

???

Posted by: Samaels Ghost Jun 18 2006, 08:05 PM

side note: The topic name is a misnomer. It actually has nothing to do with essence. sorry for the screw up and any confusion thereafter

Posted by: ZenOgre Jun 18 2006, 08:11 PM

The way I read the rule is that the Delta multiplier is applied after the other cost modifiers. so (to step on the land mine) it's your second choice : (2000+Comm cost)*10
Takes a more refined surgery to install that cutting edge gear.

Posted by: Samaels Ghost Jun 18 2006, 08:13 PM

bummer, i was hoping you'd say the other. Strange being as SOTA usually ends up being smaller....

Posted by: Butterblume Jun 18 2006, 08:31 PM

I asked a similar question awhile ago (alpha ware instead of delta ), and I think more people tended to 2000*2+commlink costs. But then, I have a really bad memory sometimes .

Posted by: Teulisch Jun 18 2006, 11:41 PM

the answer requires this question: Does an alphaware or better implanted commlink use fundamentaly different hardware from a startdard model?

If it does not, then its not so pricey, and much easier to upgrade (with surgury). the key parts, like cooling fans, are specialy made, but not the key components they attach to.

If it does, then we have to wonder what is the difference between a standard commlink component, and a higher-grade one? does it require special tools to create? (the cybertechnology skill and tools is probably a must).

Posted by: ornot Jun 18 2006, 11:52 PM

hehe... I don't imagine the headware comlink has cooling fans, unless you have some funky vents in the top of your head, or maybe a draft coming out of one ear! I imagine cooling in this situation is managed through the blood stream. After all homeostasis is a wonderful thing!

Posted by: Xane Jun 19 2006, 01:41 AM

If they've got superconducting matierials....which I believe they've developed by 2070, then heat wouldn't be a problem, since there would be no resistance to produce it.

Just my two cents and an Electronics guy

Posted by: ornot Jun 19 2006, 01:55 AM

Ahah! Well there you go... I'm a biologist!

Posted by: Jaid Jun 19 2006, 03:23 AM

i dunno... wouldn't superconductors being common kinda change a whole heck of a lot of things?

like, for example... wouldn't they have absolutely no benefit whatsoever to having power generation anywhere near the place it's used?

Posted by: Crusher Bob Jun 19 2006, 04:13 AM

We'll just take the cost of 100 miles of high capacity super conducting wire out of your salary, shall we? All the power transmission infrstructure still has to be paid for and maintained.

Posted by: Jaid Jun 19 2006, 04:32 AM

i would think that the (publicity, at least) advantages of not having a nuclear power plant in a major city would encourage corps to keep their nuclear plants away from large population centers. (if nothing else, people would be worried about a meltdown, as happened in glow city, even if they were properly educated about nuclear power).

so, sure, no one is gonna object to, say, hydroelectric power being nearby, or solar or wind generated power, but nuclear power at least would likely be placed as far as possible if it was not needed to be at least reasonably close.

Posted by: Glayvin34 Jun 19 2006, 05:57 AM

I thought the implant was 2000 Nuyen (* grade multipler) for a spot in your head or wherever for a commlink. Then you can put any combination of response, signal, system and firewall, that you buy totally separately. I bet it pops out and you can replace the response or signal chips if you want, as well as download new software wirelessly.

Posted by: ZenOgre Jun 19 2006, 07:03 AM

Well thought out response's. Gave me a few things to think on. So we all agree the 2000 get's multiplied.
Now, I can see not multyplying the software, as that is only bits of Fudgy-science optical data (no more worry's about the numbers of Gigpulse's you've got for storage, less your GM say's so anyway).
Then we gotta consider the Response and Signal. Those are hardware and should be designed as a more essence friendly and thus higher costing for materials and whatnot. jsut my .02 nuyen of course.

Posted by: Vaevictis Jun 19 2006, 08:00 AM

QUOTE (Xane @ Jun 18 2006, 08:41 PM)

If they've got superconducting matierials....which I believe they've developed by 2070, then heat wouldn't be a problem, since there would be no resistance to produce it.

Hmm. I'm not so sure about that. Less heat, sure, but none at all?

Just cause the junctions are superconducting doesn't necessarily mean that the switching won't produce heat, does it? I would also assume that there would be losses due to EM fields unintentionally transferring energy across space.