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Posted by: EVLTIM Oct 23 2003, 05:43 AM
1 of The Neo-Anarchist's the Guide to Real Life
1 of Prime Runners: A Shadowrun Sourcebook
1 of Tir Na Nog (Shadowrun 7211)
1 of Shadowbeat (Shadowrun, No. 7109)
1 of Underworld Sourcebook
1 of California Free State
Yeababy . Almost there AH . Gotta find Aztlan , Denver , and Harly is back . 
Posted by: Kagetenshi Oct 23 2003, 06:30 AM
Stiggybaby used to still have some Denvers, got mine from them.
~J
Posted by: Shadow Oct 23 2003, 08:32 AM
Not to step on Fortunes toes...
http://www.stiggybaby.com/
Posted by: Ancient History Oct 23 2003, 12:57 PM
Heh. Once you equal me (dinnae forget the novels, boyo), you must then surpass me...by equalling Adam. Mwa ha ha ha.
Posted by: Grimtooth Oct 23 2003, 01:31 PM
So what books does adam have that the rest don't?
I'm missing the new Sprawl Sites, and that Into the Shadows Graphic novel.
that's it.
Oh and Silver Angel from the 1st edition Game screen. Still haven't been able to find that.
What else is there to get except multiple copies of Denver in the Shadows for all the sector passes?
Posted by: Ancient History Oct 23 2003, 01:38 PM
Adam-san has an official Shadowrun phonecard from Japan, and has recently taken to collecting all the international Shadowrun books, like the France Sourcebook, the German FanPro products, etcetra.
I can't compete. Even with my minis.
Posted by: Siege Oct 23 2003, 01:40 PM
Ye gods, you people frighten me.
The "New" Sprawl Sites? Time to practice my Google-Fu.
-Siege
Posted by: Grimtooth Oct 23 2003, 01:41 PM
Whoops it meant Sprawl Survival Guide.
Sprawl sites is mondo old.
My bad.
Posted by: Grimtooth Oct 23 2003, 01:43 PM
I started thinking about taking up German just so i could read the novels and books not published here.
Miniatures are something i didn't get into. I lost patience after painting all those old D & D minis from eons ago.
Not sure if i'd want the french sourcebook. It would conflict with my OFFICIAL/CANON German Sourcebook 
Posted by: Hot Wheels Oct 23 2003, 02:12 PM
SR books are easy to come by but WW Tribe books aren't. 
. Clans yes. tribes no
Posted by: Adam Oct 23 2003, 03:25 PM
| QUOTE (Grimtooth) |
| Not sure if i'd want the french sourcebook. It would conflict with my OFFICIAL/CANON German Sourcebook |
Oh, you almost certainly don't.
BTW, there is no "Graphic Novel" of Into the Shadows; just a trade paperback and a slightly larger paperback.
I'm currently waiting on one of Japanese SR products to arrive.
Posted by: Grimtooth Oct 23 2003, 03:30 PM
Adam
I saw that into the shadows book on ebay billed as a graphic novel. Seller must've misspoke.
Which Japanese product?
Where and how do you get the lists of the products from over seas?
Posted by: Adam Oct 23 2003, 04:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Which Japanese product? |
I'm actually not sure. I just know it was cheap and something I didn't already have. Unfortunately, the Japanese SR core book was around $100US, and I don't have that kind of cash floating around.
| QUOTE |
| Where and how do you get the lists of the products from over seas? |
Typically from the publishers websites or by talking to people who live or visit there. Obviously it's easy to get the German products, and with Quebec nearby getting French language products isn't that difficult, either.
Posted by: Grimtooth Oct 23 2003, 04:27 PM
Is SR big in Japan?
Does it have an anime feel to it?
Posted by: Game2BHappy Oct 23 2003, 05:04 PM
I have a Shadowrun DocWagon First Aid kit that I must have picked up at GenCon one year. That one probably only saw one production run.
Posted by: Siege Oct 23 2003, 05:05 PM
Does it have a secret compartment for a heavy handgun?
-Siege
Posted by: Grimtooth Oct 23 2003, 05:23 PM
Now that gencon is closer to me i gotta go to both Origins AND Gencon.
I got a press pass from the election. It was for the Brackhaven party. He was a Humanis puke i think.
Bleh. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Personally i voted for the dwarf eco nut.
Posted by: EVLTIM Oct 23 2003, 05:27 PM
Soka for the Linkage Shadow , but I am a little taped out at the time now .
I know I still have a ways to go . I only have 4 novels , but I wanted to catch up on my US source stuff first . A lot of this I have been searching for for years .Right time right place for once I am always a step behind .
For instance the last time I saw Guide to real life , my friend reached out and grabed it just as I saw it .
The up side is allof it was less than $100 , so I don't have to here to much screaming from the spousal unit .
Posted by: TinkerGnome Oct 23 2003, 05:33 PM
| QUOTE (EVLTIM @ Oct 23 2003, 01:27 PM) |
| Soka |
If that's in a language other than Japanese, what's it mean? If it's in Japanese...
| QUOTE (Inigo Montoya) |
| I do not think it means what you think it means. |
Posted by: EVLTIM Oct 23 2003, 05:37 PM
| QUOTE (TinkerGnome) | ||||
If that's in a language other than Japanese, what's it mean? If it's in Japanese...
|
Maybe I brain farted but I always took it as OK / thanx dependeding on cotext of te sentace it is in .
Posted by: Grimtooth Oct 23 2003, 05:45 PM
i always thought it was meant for checking comprehension.
Ie "No elves, soka?"
Posted by: EVLTIM Oct 23 2003, 05:48 PM
| QUOTE (Grimtooth) |
| i always thought it was meant for checking comprehension. Ie "No elves, soka?" |
Yea like in that context Soka = OK . But I could swear I saw it in Cannon some where used as a thanx .
I probably just brain farted .
Posted by: Grimtooth Oct 23 2003, 05:51 PM
oh well
7 of one and a half dozen of the other....
soka?
Posted by: EVLTIM Oct 23 2003, 05:55 PM
| QUOTE (Grimtooth) |
| oh well 7 of one and a half dozen of the other.... soka? |
Posted by: TinkerGnome Oct 23 2003, 06:11 PM
| QUOTE (Grimtooth @ Oct 23 2003, 01:45 PM) |
| i always thought it was meant for checking comprehension. Ie "No elves, soka?" |
Yep
I'm really just giving EVLTIM a hard time over it. Generally (not always), if a phrase ends with "ka" in Japanese, it's a question (the "ka" actually being a spoken question mark). "Soka" generally is a question along the lines of "Is that so?" It's generally used to seek confirmation of something."So desu ka." is an ultra common phrase which means "I understand" and is an obvious exception to the "ka" = question thing.
[edit] SR seems to use "so ka" where "so desu ka" is more correct. However, it's quite possible that "so ka" is used that way in the future (or even now, in slang, for all I know). The original use seemed to be more along the lines of "thank you", which is a different world alltogether.[/edit]
Posted by: Grimtooth Oct 23 2003, 06:25 PM
now that we have soka cleared up
What is kanawagaso? or kanawagesu?
Not sure of the spelling.
It was a phrase used several times in the novels and on the 2nd edition contacts sheet for the Elf Poser contact.
Posted by: TinkerGnome Oct 23 2003, 06:30 PM
Heh, an exact spelling would be helpful Not something I recognize (my Japanese is mainly from 15 hours worth in college and a little other stuff)
Posted by: Siege Oct 23 2003, 07:46 PM
Or it's supposed to be an imagined Sperethiel phrase.
-Siege
Posted by: Grimtooth Oct 23 2003, 07:55 PM
I'll jump in my way back machine when i get home tonite and dig out my 2nd edition contacts book.
Postage will follow
Posted by: Shadow Oct 23 2003, 09:03 PM
Soka is Shadowrun slang from first ed. It means a couple of different things if I remember. Anyone want to show the Geek-Knight Hood, and give us a direct quote from the first ed book?
Posted by: k1tsune Oct 23 2003, 09:10 PM
I've heard "So ka" used by Japanese. Yeah. "So desu ka" is pretty much equivalent to saying "Is that so?" in English. Often "A, so desu ka!" (Oh! Is that so?) and doesn't require a response.
...yeah. I've been studying Japanese for a little over a year and can still only understand about 25% of normal conversation. Especially in anime and stuff. That's way more informal than they normally teach us gaijin weirdos.
Posted by: EVLTIM Oct 23 2003, 09:29 PM
| QUOTE (TinkerGnome) | ||
Yep I'm really just giving EVLTIM a hard time over it. Generally (not always), if a phrase ends with "ka" in Japanese, it's a question (the "ka" actually being a spoken question mark). "Soka" generally is a question along the lines of "Is that so?" It's generally used to seek confirmation of something."So desu ka." is an ultra common phrase which means "I understand" and is an obvious exception to the "ka" = question thing. [edit] SR seems to use "so ka" where "so desu ka" is more correct. However, it's quite possible that "so ka" is used that way in the future (or even now, in slang, for all I know). The original use seemed to be more along the lines of "thank you", which is a different world alltogether.[/edit] |
Vindication . Yes .
Posted by: Adam Oct 23 2003, 09:48 PM
| QUOTE |
| Is SR big in Japan? |
My understanding is it did well, but 3rd Edition has not been published there.
| QUOTE |
| Does it have an anime feel to it? |
Yes. As an example, the linked image is a cover of a "replay" book, which basically describes a Shadowrun session in words. http://www.talkinabout.com/gfx/ext/shadowrun_replay_1.jpg
Posted by: Shadow Oct 23 2003, 09:56 PM
Bah anime = %90 garbage, %10 greatness.
I love the idea that people are influenced by other things, and then they take them and make them there own. But I have only seen a handful of anime moveis that are worth the film there printed on. I would hate to see SR go all aime (thankfully it wont).
Posted by: Kagetenshi Oct 23 2003, 10:02 PM
It's true; a lot of people don't realize that there is much, much more anime out there than what shows up in the US, and that for the most part what shows up here is among the best.
I still wish they'd hurry up and bring Memories over here, though. That is a beautiful movie.
~J
Posted by: Grimtooth Oct 24 2003, 02:23 PM
Shadow - I'll pick up that gauntlet if i get the chance tonite. 
Posted by: TinkerGnome Oct 24 2003, 02:47 PM
Some of the best Anime of all time is already here. Berserk is a personal favorite, though I haven't had a chance to check out the domestic version yet. Most of it, however, is garbage. On a non-anime (but still japanese media) note, I've been thinking about running an SR game based loosely around Battle Royale. Imagine, a group of despised metahuman teenagers sent off to an island with the caveat that after x days, one survivor would get to come home (if there was more than one, of course, no one goes home). Murder, blood, mayhem 
Posted by: Shadow Oct 24 2003, 03:46 PM
You know, theres a north amercian native tradition where people gt exiled to islands after commiting crimes. It hapened in Washington State a few years back when a couple of native youths mugged and/or murdered a pizza delivery guy (can't remember which). One chose exile and got sent to an island for two years, the other chose prison.
It would make an interesting shadow run..... never mind.
Posted by: smilbandit Oct 24 2003, 04:27 PM
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=4h3q6r%24m4v%40gap.cco.caltech.edu&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3D%2522so%2Bka%2522%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D4h3q6r%2524m4v%2540gap.cco.caltech.edu%26rnum%3D1
Posted by: Grimtooth Oct 24 2003, 04:42 PM
Back to the original topic of scoring SR items, did anyone see on ebay the NERPS Inauguration pass?
Keith Richards, 120 years old and still rockin'!
Cool stff
Posted by: Game2BHappy Oct 24 2003, 10:29 PM
Just because someone asked...Pg. 11, SR1: "'So ka,' Ghost whispered to himself in understanding."
pg. 161 under "Glossary of Slang in 2050"
"So ka (jap) I understand. I get it."
Posted by: snowRaven Oct 25 2003, 04:34 PM
Dunno how I compare to AH in shadowrun stuff, but I can't beat adam - I have no foreign material at all
Own all published SR adventures, sourcebooks, gm screens, and rulebooks, except SSG, Rigger 3 revised and Character Dossier - haven't gotten around to them yet - HiTech & LowLife, DMZ, Sprawl Maps, all novels (and a bunch of the trading cards)
I am missing some minis too - the 'new' ral partha 3rd edition set, the museum scale troll, Lofwyr, plastic Feathered Serpent, and the Grenadier Western Dragon, and one or two of partha's blister packs...plus a number of grenadier ones that I decided were too crappy to buy.
Yes, I am a Geek. Oh, and I haven't started collecting Duels yet - hard to find over here in sweden. I have almost no ED stuff though - AH beats me by far there I think
Posted by: Abstruse Oct 25 2003, 04:45 PM
I'm 5 books shy of owning all the game books and about a dozen or so away from all the novels. Now if I can just find them all...
Unfortunately, I don't have any of the rare stuff...all I have is my CAS Sector residence pass in my wallet (I lost the 24 hour Aztlan pass long ago)...
Anyone know a good place for finding the weird stuff like the medkit? I've never seen any of the convention goodies on ebay...
The Abstruse One
Posted by: Buzzed Oct 25 2003, 04:48 PM
I got my Denver from the Green Bay airport gift shop! It's true.
Posted by: TimeKeeper Oct 25 2003, 05:49 PM
I found a near mint UB, SR1 (first print, hard cover), Maria Mercial, VR 1.0, Grimore (1st), PAoNA, NANs (both volumes), and tons of other adventures.
The place was even willing to track down a Denver boxed for me.
All this in Perth, Oz.
Shall I give the name of the place?
and website?
Posted by: Fortune Oct 25 2003, 11:06 PM
Can anyone provide a list of all the official non-English releases for Shadowrun? I don't mean reprints in another language, but original books.
Posted by: Digital Heroin Oct 25 2003, 11:15 PM
I belive I still have the contents of the old Denver boxed set in my collection, if not the box itself...
Posted by: Grimtooth Oct 28 2003, 01:53 PM
ok
i dug out my old 2nd edition gm screen last night and pulled out the contacts portion.
The elf poser ended his spiel with "samma wagga kan?"
anyone out there have ideas what this means?
Posted by: Ancient History Oct 28 2003, 02:01 PM
I believe it's a particularly horrible piece of psuedo-Japanese slang, the meaning of which I think to by "Sammy understand?"
Posted by: Grimtooth Oct 28 2003, 02:22 PM
odd piece of language that.
Cityspeak?
Posted by: Talia Invierno Nov 25 2003, 08:04 PM
| QUOTE |
| kanawagaso? or kanawagesu? - Grimtooth |
Would that be "konbanwa gesu"? The first is just "good evening", the second translates to a person of humble rank, in some contexts a monster. (Anime likes this second use.) But I'd have to see the context.
| QUOTE |
| "samma wagga kan?" |
You were almost spot-on, Ancient History: "samma" from "samurai", "wagga" from "wakarimasu" ("understand"), "kan" from "ka" (the interrogative particle). It's bastardised in much the same way as "speaka you English?" And it's extremely vulgar.
Posted by: Ancient History Nov 25 2003, 09:47 PM
Had a feeling that was the case. Thanks, Tal.
Posted by: Solidcobra Nov 25 2003, 10:22 PM
i swear, if there was a SINGLE WAY to get the books without paying 300% of their market prices here in sweden........
i wouldn't have any .pdf files about shadowrun!
(Don't worry, i have tried to buy the books, i only have rigger 3, sprawl survival and MitS left on my computer, and i'll get them... eventually)
Posted by: Baphomet Nov 26 2003, 07:56 PM
Well, after being away from SR for several years (just about the time of the whole Dunkelzahn for president/assassination thing), I've just started trying to catch up over the past month or so. I was missing all the source books from the above period on, and many of the adventures from even before that (I only had about 10 of the published adventures before).
Well, I now realize coming up on Christmas that this isn't the best time to try and back-fill a collection (several hundred dollars too late ), but now I'm only missing SotA2063, Man & Machine (reprinted shortly, hopefully), Sprawl Survival Guide, Character Dossiers, GM Screen 3rd Edition and one or two old, old items, like Prime Runners (don't want to pay $30 for it) and GM Screen 2nd Edition.
I have found a few sites that have the remaining books I need, but I will have to wait until after the new year and hope that they still have them. Not only is Christmas looming, but car insurance, inflated credit card bills (from the newly acquired SR books and a few hundred in vet bills on a new puppy...don't ask...), etc.
Still, happy to be back!!!
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