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Posted by: DireRadiant Feb 27 2007, 03:24 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17359821/

Hitchcocks' The Birds..

Now imagine adding some C12 to a group of pigeons...

Posted by: Konsaki Feb 27 2007, 03:29 PM

Wow... That's so much better than my remote control cat idea...
[Goes back to the lab to draw up plans for a remote control shark... with lazers]

Posted by: sunnyside Feb 27 2007, 05:17 PM

Hmmm. Like slamhounds but airborn. Not bad.

Posted by: HullBreach Feb 28 2007, 01:31 AM

In WW2 the Russians had a uniquely smart Anti-tank weapon: Trained dogs. They conditioned dogs to run up to tanks and lie down underneath the chassis. In training, the dogs wore weighted vests, in the field these vests were filled with TNT.

Similar concept, less tech and more time spent training, but effective none the less.

Posted by: Tomothy Feb 28 2007, 03:18 AM

Those poor doggies frown.gif

Posted by: HullBreach Feb 28 2007, 03:26 AM

QUOTE (Tomothy)
Those poor doggies frown.gif

<shrugs> The Palestinians use people.

Posted by: toturi Feb 28 2007, 04:18 AM

QUOTE (HullBreach)
QUOTE (Tomothy @ Feb 27 2007, 10:18 PM)
Those poor doggies  frown.gif

<shrugs> The Palestinians use people.

Not-so-smart bombs. But effective nonetheless.

Posted by: psykotisk_overlegen Feb 28 2007, 04:52 PM

QUOTE (HullBreach)
In WW2 the Russians had a uniquely smart Anti-tank weapon: Trained dogs. They conditioned dogs to run up to tanks and lie down underneath the chassis. In training, the dogs wore weighted vests, in the field these vests were filled with TNT.

Similar concept, less tech and more time spent training, but effective none the less.

Maybe it's just hearsay, but I've heard that the dogs ran beneath russian tanks and blew them up, because the russians had been using an old russian tank for training the dogs.



I like the pigeon-tech. Now, if it can be done with birds, can you do it with humans?

Posted by: djinni Mar 1 2007, 01:03 AM

QUOTE (psykotisk_overlegen)
I like the pigeon-tech. Now, if it can be done with birds, can you do it with humans?

IRl...yes...yes it can.
in SR their is fluff about the animals being remote controlled, but wouldn't microdrones be less costly?

Posted by: Thane36425 Mar 1 2007, 01:11 AM

QUOTE (djinni)
QUOTE (psykotisk_overlegen @ Feb 28 2007, 11:52 AM)
I like the pigeon-tech. Now, if it can be done with birds, can you do it with humans?

IRl...yes...yes it can.
in SR their is fluff about the animals being remote controlled, but wouldn't microdrones be less costly?

That has been the problem so far. Birds can carry small payloads, but not really enough to do much good. A drone or the like could do the same job, maybe for less cost and it would certainly cut out the lawfare angle of animals rights groups suing over the use of birds as fire bombs.

Posted by: Tomothy Mar 1 2007, 02:03 AM

I suppose the pigeons wouldnt fly high enough for you to use a flock to take out planes (ala Indiana Jones)

Posted by: HullBreach Mar 1 2007, 01:23 PM

Nah, but they could REALLY give a ground effect craft like a thunderbird a bad day.

Posted by: MaxHunter Mar 2 2007, 04:39 AM

Funny. I have read in some adventure, can't remember which, that the chinese corp Tan Tien was into making animal drones.

Why worrying about designing a flying drone or a submersible if millenia of evolution have already done the job for ya? just plug in the skillwires, transceiver and VCrig and you are on. Don't forget to set a couple lasers on that shark.

Cheers,

Max

Posted by: psykotisk_overlegen Mar 4 2007, 11:56 AM

QUOTE

Why worrying about designing a flying drone or a submersible if millenia of evolution have already done the job for ya? just plug in the skillwires, transceiver and VCrig and you are on. Don't forget to set a couple lasers on that shark.

I'm getting flashbacks from Red Alert 2, with the mindcontrolled squids fighting the trained dolphins. Ah, that was a great game. Mindcontrolled giant squids could make a (joke) entrance into my Shadowrun game to. Remember the tentacled thingy mentioned on the news in 2XS, crawling out of lake washington?

QUOTE
IRl...yes...yes it can.

Cool. And I guess it can be done in SR too, like bunraku flesh puppets, but with more violence and less sex. Is there any particular reason why we haven't seen more electronical mindcontrol in SR? I guess it would be horrible for a megacorp to have word of research into thought-control leaking out, but IIRC deus had something like this(I have never read any of the details on the arcology), and others could have it too.

Posted by: Da9iel Mar 7 2007, 01:54 AM

QUOTE (MaxHunter)
[snip] Don't forget to set a couple lasers on that shark.

Ahem! "Frickin lasers!"

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