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Dumpshock Forums _ Shadowrun _ Area 51
Posted by: Artemis Nov 28 2003, 10:14 PM
It just occured to me that one of the most controversial places lies within the Peublo Corporate Council area, if I'm not mistaken. And I haven't seen a single book reference to the infamous alien crash-landing site.
What, if anything, do we know about it?
Posted by: Artemis Nov 28 2003, 10:22 PM
Ah, I saw a thread from four days back that asked the same question. Not much is known it seems, aside from some mention in [Cyberpirates] and [Target: Smuggler Havens]. So Knight was seen chatting it up with an alien? Interesting.
Posted by: Phaeton Nov 29 2003, 01:58 AM
| QUOTE (Artemis) |
| It just occured to me that one of the most controversial places lies within the Peublo Corporate Council area, if I'm not mistaken. And I haven't seen a single book reference to the infamous alien crash-landing site. What, if anything, do we know about it? |
Area 51 is in Rachell, Nevada. The crash was in Roswell, New Mexico. I don't mean to be mean by correcting you. Just wanted to inform you.
Posted by: Sahandrian Nov 29 2003, 03:18 AM
Area 51 is now on a metaplane. What you see in Nevada is a large illusion maintained by dark powers.
Or at least, that's the sort of thing I'll be subjecting my players to, soon.
Good luck, Charlie.
Posted by: kevyn668 Nov 30 2003, 02:42 AM
Depending on who you ask, the aliens casued the Crash in '29.....
Posted by: Fortune Nov 30 2003, 03:03 AM
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| Depending on who you ask, the aliens casued the Crash in '29..... |
Nobody I know says that. I have heard various rumors about Knight and the Immortal Elves though.
Posted by: kevyn668 Nov 30 2003, 03:17 AM
Wait for it...wait for it.... 
Posted by: Ancient History Nov 30 2003, 03:35 AM
They've been hinting for years that the Crash might have been pulling a Gibson. I fully detail it on my site, in the appropriate page.
Posted by: kevyn668 Nov 30 2003, 04:36 AM
See? All good things come those who wait. 
Posted by: Fortune Nov 30 2003, 04:47 AM
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| They've been hinting for years that the Crash might have been pulling a Gibson. I fully detail it on my site, in the appropriate page. |
Personally, I think you might want to link your http://www.geocities.com/ancient0history/ancient0history.html in the posts in which you advertise it.
Posted by: Ancient History Nov 30 2003, 04:53 AM
Dumpshock should just have a big page of SR links. Listed alphabetically. So mine's near the top.
Posted by: Phaeton Nov 30 2003, 04:53 AM
| QUOTE (Sahandrian) |
| Area 51 is now on a metaplane. What you see in Nevada is a large illusion maintained by dark powers. Or at least, that's the sort of thing I'll be subjecting my players to, soon. Good luck, Charlie. |
Posted by: kevyn668 Nov 30 2003, 04:54 AM
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| Fortune Posted on Nov 30 2003, 04:47 AM QUOTE (Ancient History) They've been hinting for years that the Crash might have been pulling a Gibson. I fully detail it on my site, in the appropriate page. Personally, I think you might want to link your page in the posts in which you advertise it. |
Crap. Stupid computer illiteracy. I should have done that...sorry.
posting the link that is.
Posted by: Fortune Nov 30 2003, 05:47 AM
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| ...sorry... |
What are you sorry for? My post was actually directed at Ancient History.
Posted by: Shanshu Freeman Nov 30 2003, 11:47 AM
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| Depending on who you ask, the aliens casued the Crash in '29..... |
Didn't the virus initiate from NASA CETI mainframes? Wasn't ARES/Knight involved as well?
Posted by: Velocity Nov 30 2003, 05:48 PM
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| Ancient History wrote: They've been hinting for years that the Crash might have been pulling a Gibson. |
I understand the reference, but not the expression: "pulling a William Gibson"?
Posted by: Ancient History Nov 30 2003, 05:56 PM
In Willliam Gibson's Cyberspace Trilogy (Neuromancer, Count Zero and Mona Lisa Overdrive), an Uber-artificial intelligence finds proof of another Uber-AI in a series of 30-year old transmissions from Alpha Centauri. The encounter with this Centauri AI breaks the Earth AI into itty bitty pieces.
Posted by: Velocity Nov 30 2003, 06:03 PM
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| Ancient History wrote: In Willliam Gibson's Cyberspace Trilogy |
Ah, thank you.
So does anyone think that Shadowrun's next step will be into outer space? Apparently a few corps got their fingers into the moon's pie when we weren't looking and orbital space is positively cluttered, so obviously the Big Ten™ have stars in their eyes.
On a related note, has anyone read Eyewitness? If so, any theories on what Dante saw up there?
Posted by: Ancient History Nov 30 2003, 06:08 PM
Ares had had interests in space since it bought out NASA (which bankrupted trying to hide the results of the Mars landings), which leads, of course, to Project: Cydonia and Dunkie's Will; and probably also Tom Tom's ravings regarding Area 51 and Ares.
Oh, Dante?
Seriously though, I think he just went apeshit when he hit the mana warp. 's not good for you.
Posted by: Velocity Nov 30 2003, 06:39 PM
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| Ancient History wrote: which bankrupted trying to hide the results of the Mars landings |
Woah, really? Is there proof of this? I always thought that NASA simply suffered from a grotesque lack of funding and when Freedom's orbit began to decay, it found itself with neither the political clout nor the financial wherewithal to do anything about it. That's when Ares stepped in with those tired old lines about the private sector being able to "do it more efficiently." Voilą! Instant corporate space program.
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| Ancient History wrote: Project: Cydonia |
Project whatzit?
(Man, I just look more and more informed the further this conversation progresses.)
Posted by: Ancient History Nov 30 2003, 07:21 PM
Well, it does show that you have not read Missions, and likely missed Dunkie's WIll too.
Posted by: Velocity Nov 30 2003, 07:35 PM
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| Ancient History wrote: Well, it does show that you have not read Missions, and likely missed Dunkie's WIll too. |
Correct; when it comes to prioritizing my spending, gaming supplements fall somewhere between "DVDs" and "feather boas" and well below "rent," "tuition" and "comestible proteins."
However, I have read the will (and skimmed your annotated version) but found no direct, clear explanation for what happened to NASA and its Mars missions. IRL, I think Project: Cydonia was concerned with photographing a particular section of Mars and specifically finding a rational explanation for why a human face could be distinguished amidst the rock formations--am I close?
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| Ancient History wrote: They've also been hinting dragons come from another planet. Ssssh! |
What?! Damn, if I wanted to play Spelljammer I'd play freakin' Spelljammer.
Posted by: Ancient History Nov 30 2003, 07:41 PM
Are you close? No.
Oh, and just ignore the dragon rumor.
Posted by: Velocity Nov 30 2003, 08:35 PM
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| Ancient History wrote: [ Spoiler ] |
Ooh... spiffy. Did they ever take it any further than that?
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| Ancient History wrote: Oh, and just ignore the dragon rumor. |
Gladly!
Posted by: Ancient History Nov 30 2003, 11:46 PM
Yeah, they took it further.
Posted by: Velocity Dec 1 2003, 01:57 AM
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| Ancient History wrote: Yeah, they took it further. |
Oh... oh, good. Glad to know. Thanks for that.
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