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Dumpshock Forums _ Shadowrun _ Chara Critique: Hiratsu Takanashi
Posted by: quentra Apr 14 2008, 08:49 AM
This is an experiment I wanted to try. See how well an agil maxed elf (12 agil/exceptional attribute) does. And for kicks, make him a sniper. His background is an ex-Tir Ghost, just so his badassery makes sense. Since technically, they're badass, or something. He's Japanese for kicks. Or an immigrant. One of the two. I was running out of names.
Hiratsu Takanashi
Well, there you have it. No arsenal stuff besides the FFBA, which I know that stats for. Suggestions, comments?
Posted by: DTFarstar Apr 14 2008, 09:57 AM
I would suggest the Ares Desert Strike or HK PSG Enforcer from Arsenal. I would also recommend buying Arsenal. Desert Strike is DV+1 from the Walther and no internal smartlink but it carries more bullets and uses a clip which is always nice. The Enforcer has the same stats, also no smartlink, also cheaper, and has two seperate clips of 12© ammo, simple action to switch between. Also, with Genetic Optimization you can get your agility to 13 instead of 12.
Chris
Posted by: Malicant Apr 14 2008, 10:10 AM
Because what makes a good sniper is high agility 
Posted by: wanderer_king Apr 14 2008, 10:31 AM
I personally would up stealth and drop the FFBA and other armor for chameleon armor.... and you are encumbered by that business suit. Max without a dice pool mod for armor is 2x bod, and that is armor 5 on the auctioneers business suit.
Posted by: quentra Apr 14 2008, 10:33 AM
I want Arsenal. I put 3 points in perception, damnnit! If that doesn't make me a good sniper, I don't know what will
Posted by: quentra Apr 14 2008, 10:33 AM
You take encumbrance for every two points ove 2xbod, I think.
Posted by: wanderer_king Apr 14 2008, 10:36 AM
Nope, its 2 points or part there of... 
Posted by: Malicant Apr 14 2008, 10:52 AM
Training in procedures that result in people dropping dead from long distances. You don't need a high agility to do that. What you have build is essentially a gun bunny that will drop dead if anyone so much as sneezes in his general direction.
Posted by: Cthulhudreams Apr 14 2008, 11:13 AM
Why do you have athletics and dodge?
Posted by: Tobias Apr 14 2008, 11:17 AM
You can take 2*bod armour before getting a penalty then you take a penalty = (armor-bod)/2 round up so wearing 5 armour gives you -2 to most physical rolls.
Posted by: Cabral Apr 14 2008, 11:29 AM
If you were to drop Agi down to 6 and drop the Exceptional Attribute, you would free up 55 pts. You could, if so inclined, take Type-O System (Arsenal) Raise your Body and Will and have 5 pts left over. Plus, you'd have less Essence lost and thus one more point into adept powers. Others have stated that Type-O is not a good buy. It's not, you can eventually buy delta bio and use the BP to improves something you would spend karma on instead.
If you read up enough on anatomy and biology, you can pass the time discussing the frailty of metahuman organs and whether a metahuman could survive long enough to receive medical care ... maybe get some bonus karma for creeping out the GM. 
Posted by: quentra Apr 20 2008, 02:06 AM
Yeah, but one of the purposes of the build was an exercise in DP values, ie. How many skills can I default to better than a slightly trained individual with a maxed out Agility. Answer: A good damn amount. Any suggestions equipment-wise, or skill wise? I wanna twink him out, but keep the maxed Agi.
Posted by: cndblank Apr 20 2008, 04:15 AM
He needs at least one level of Outdoors if he was special forces.
Armorer, Electronics, Diving, Parachuting would all make sense.
Posted by: Glyph Apr 20 2008, 04:15 AM
I would still move a point from Logic (you are hardly crippled with a Logic of 3, and you don't even have any Logic-based skills), and move it to Body. This would let you wear the leather jacket/FFBA combo without penalty.
If you are getting Firewall: 6 already, why bother with ISIS Orb OS? Just get System: 3 and save 400 
Too bad you don't have Arsenal yet - a short-barreled Defiance T-250 would let you use your longarms skill for what is essentially a heavy pistol, concealability-wise.
Posted by: NativeRigger Apr 20 2008, 06:45 AM
Two errors in your build.1. Max AGL is 11 for an elf with Exceptional AGL not 12
[My bad, missed a buried line in BBB -NR]
2. The improved Physical attribute adept power requires you spend 2 power points for every attribute point above the natural max. So, that two points of AGL would cost 4 power points. Withthe power point your spent raising Longarms by +2, that puts you at magic 5. Given that you're losing two magic levels to essence loss, you'd need Magic 6 + Initation to pull this build off.
I wanted to see if I could come close to what you had going a slightly different route. This is what I came up with:
-NR
Posted by: Fortune Apr 20 2008, 09:02 AM
This is not correct. Normal maximum Agility for an elf is 7 ... with Exceptional Attribute this goes up to 8. 150% of 8 is 12, which is the Augmented Maximum..
Posted by: Ears Apr 20 2008, 09:19 AM
As the character still has .6 Essence left to spend why not install Cerebral Boosters and move points from Logic into attributes where they actually do some good?
Posted by: NativeRigger Apr 20 2008, 02:05 PM
Grrr,
My bad. I just found that line buried deep in a text block. I am really starting to dislike how relevant critical info in the BBB is neither grouped together nor highlighted.
Regardless, point 2 is still valid. If takes exceptional attribute and then buys his AGL up to the unagumented max then every point of Increased Attribute costs two power points.
-NR
Posted by: Larme Apr 20 2008, 04:05 PM
What do we want?
No more snipers!
When do we want it?
Now!
Not trying to be mean, I just think the sniper is a waaay overused, and not very colorful archtype.
Posted by: b1ffov3rfl0w Apr 21 2008, 01:49 AM
Really.
When I played SR1, actually, there was a sniper in the group. He was also the face, before people used the term "face" outside of The A-Team, and sort of the Hannibal too come to think of it. I think he had no cyber, and the player was just a really smart guy who had played a lot of RPGs -- like the fat guy in Dork Tower. Those were fun games, although most of us had no idea what we were doing.
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