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Posted by: LamplightSlasher Apr 12 2009, 02:34 AM

Just thumbing through my books for a critter to challenge my new players with. The idea for a series of mysterious accidents befalling a charity organization squatting in a ruined townhouse complex. When I came across the reference to paranomal cats in Feral Cities I nearly cried. So perfect! A blackberry cat with the accident trait: an alpha female with a harem of feral males. Now all I need is the stats. What's with this sourcebook? No critter stat page? Have any you come across need for these numbers? Made your own?
There's a gold credstick on the table for a reliable answer.

Posted by: Method Apr 12 2009, 03:41 AM

The blackberry cat was included in previous editions (Paranormal Animals of Europe, page 18 / Critters, page 23 which is available free at http://www.battlecorps.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28_187_84&products_id=793). It has not yet been update for SR4, but there is a forthcoming critter book called 'Running Wild' in the works.

{edit: kzt beat me to the link!}

Posted by: kzt Apr 12 2009, 03:50 AM

http://www.shadowrun4.com/resources/downloads/fanpro_sr_critters.pdf

Posted by: Tiger Eyes Apr 12 2009, 04:26 AM

The jackpoint poster Winterhawk has a blackberry cat in his house... (it's debatable who's the pet)

Posted by: LamplightSlasher Apr 12 2009, 04:31 AM

Fantastic chummers!
That gives me something to work with.
I love the catnip weakness. The PCs will never think of adding that to their gear.

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 12 2009, 08:19 AM

It's onle the question whether a HIGH Blackberry Cat is so much better than one that is just bored or cranky . .

Posted by: AllTheNothing Apr 12 2009, 09:05 AM

I think that the awakened cats that Feral Cities talks about are Talis Cats, nice little kittens that have the power to increase their attributes and appear like panters (or something alike), and have the habit of hunting animals bigger than themselves (including metahumans); I would also like to point out that cats are totaly promisquous and the idea of a female having an harem is a bit off.
Blackberry Cats are good for unexpected developments, wildcards that blow the team's plans and force the players to rethink their role in the story, they are subtle manipulator or maybe pranksters, feral cats role is better served by Talis Cats.

Posted by: hobgoblin Apr 12 2009, 02:38 PM

i could have sworn that was the deal with cats in general...

Posted by: Wounded Ronin Apr 12 2009, 03:20 PM

Do the cats use blackberries?

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 12 2009, 03:24 PM

If you don't look too close and only imagine what a Blackberry Cat can do, tell me that's not what you could have sworn your cat has done at least once allready? ^^

Well . . with Shadowruns Magic and Technology, that would not be all that far fetched O.o
Wanna do something really nasty? Give any Cat-Based Critter Sentience *snickers*

Posted by: TBRMInsanity Apr 12 2009, 03:30 PM

It's that way in my house for sure.

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 12 2009, 03:36 PM

I, for one, welcome our new feline Overlords ^^

Posted by: GreyBrother Apr 12 2009, 03:38 PM

Hah, you wish.

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 12 2009, 03:44 PM

Actualy, yes, i do.
Cats do love me.
I would have a good life ^^
Dogs hate me and i hate them in return <.<
when i grew up, there were 5 to 10 cats in the same house at times.
they fought like . . no, not cats and dogs, not cats and mice.
like cats do between each other.
only in my proximity there was some semblance of peace.
because i love cats and will care for each cat to the best of my abilites.

Posted by: Wounded Ronin Apr 12 2009, 03:56 PM

Garfield could be a SR villian.

Posted by: Tiger Eyes Apr 12 2009, 03:57 PM

*whistles innocently*

Posted by: Wesley Street Apr 12 2009, 03:58 PM

Unless the plot involved shipping a PC to Abu Dhabi, he'd be too lazy to involve himself.

Posted by: Wounded Ronin Apr 12 2009, 04:00 PM

It's ironic how back in the day Abbu Dhabi was probably just a joke on the part of the author who tried to look up the most obscure place he could find in an encyclopedia back in the 1970s, but how today if Nermal got shipped there he/she (forget Nermal's gender) would probably end up starting an international shipping/logistics business over there and would eventually return to buy out Garfield's neighborhood.

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 12 2009, 04:03 PM

Garfield as a Fat Mafia-Don . . does not sound all that unbelieveable does it? ^^
Or as a Sumo-Like Yakuza-Oyabun O.o
Or a Russian Vory . . allthough the name would have to be changed, vory y zakone meaning wolves of moscow or something like that if i remember correctly ^^

hmmm?
anything you wanna tell me/us Tiggi? ^^

Posted by: Tiger Eyes Apr 12 2009, 04:21 PM

Just that I greatly enjoyed Lar's intro fiction for his chapter of Running Wild, and I think you will too.

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 12 2009, 04:23 PM

Cats?
GIMME! ^^

Posted by: Heath Robinson Apr 12 2009, 04:29 PM

http://dwarf.lendemaindeveille.com/index.php/Cats

Posted by: CanRay Apr 12 2009, 05:11 PM

Also a great Shadowrun opportunity.

I can see it now, 'Runners sneaking in a "Small Package" that's actually a narced-out Blackberry Cat into a Big Corporate Wedding Event.

Then the cat wakes up, with a headache... And a lot of noisy Metahumans (Be it the PCs or the Wedding.).

Hope they make the delivery on time.

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 12 2009, 05:17 PM

*snickers*
Even a normal Cat would probably cause quite the ruckus under that circumstances ^^
There's plenty people to annoy, there's food, there's lots of room to hide in.
Climbey-Places too!
But yes, put a blackberry cat SOMEWHERE it does not want to be, and you can pretty much lay back and enjoy your show ^^
And imagine the panic a talis-cat woud cause O.o suddenly, there's a jaguar in the room!
And when animal control appears, nothing can be found, as the cat trudged out in small form with the fleeing humans ^^

Posted by: LamplightSlasher Apr 12 2009, 05:19 PM

You are definitely right. Another glowing reccomendation for Feral Cities. Not only does it not include the stats of the critters it references, but it isn't accurate in which ones it's describing. Sigh....
Blackberry Cats fit my game idea better, but maybe instead of a harem of standard feral cats, I include the primary Blackberry Cat and one or two Talis Cats as her mates. Keep in mind as you reference standard animal behaviors in relation to paranormal ones, although it may be strange for a non-sentient real world equivalent, a thinking magical varient may have different behaviors.
Think about this... One dominant female cat in a small area. Many weaker males. If that female is in heat, those males will be stupidly devoted to getting some of that tail. I don't think the harem idea is actually that strange.

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 12 2009, 05:28 PM

Oy! bad pun!*snickers* ^^

Posted by: hobgoblin Apr 12 2009, 05:32 PM

i think i finished a downloadable sci-fi story about something like that recently...

http://www.accelerando.org/

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 12 2009, 05:39 PM

What's it got to . . Wait, AI Kittens? O.o

Posted by: Dumori Apr 12 2009, 05:51 PM

Darn it all this cat talk make me wish I had one. XD

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 12 2009, 05:52 PM

Yeah, me too . . i still miss my very own Garfield ._.

Posted by: Dumori Apr 12 2009, 06:00 PM

Yeah I don't think I could get a not pets apartment I want a cat too much.

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 12 2009, 06:04 PM

Only problem i have with Cats, and the reason why i won't be getting a new one any time soon:
i don't think i could bear losing one of those little monsters again <.<

Posted by: IceKatze Apr 12 2009, 06:22 PM

hi hi

If only there were rules for how to handle pets as player characters. We know that security organizations use paracritters to guard sensitive areas, but there are no price listings for buying them from a "pet shop," or what skills it would take to handle them. There are some vague references to animal empathy qualities, but not much beyond that.

I remember the last time I mentioned a blackberry cat during a run. It was only a red herring that I was throwing out to the group, but one of the steely eyed veteran players got a look of shock on his face and said. "No way!" as in, no amount of money is going to make me go up against one of those things.

Posted by: Tiger Eyes Apr 12 2009, 06:26 PM

Be careful what you wish for... Running Wild will have rules for pets. Pets of all sorts and sizes and shapes...

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 12 2009, 06:28 PM

Ever tried to put a cat that really does NOT like Water into a Tub and giving him a sponge bath? O.o
Now imagine that cat having the magical ability to make you see, think and do whatever it wants . .

Also, cats can NOT be tamed like dogs to do what they are told.
They do what they do because they want to.
If they want to have somthing, they will do what they can to get it.
If that means standing on their hind paws only to get something tasty, so be it.
But if they do NOT want the tasty(granted, that's pretty seldom), but if it happens, there's no way in hell making them stand on their hind-legs only . .

Posted by: kzt Apr 12 2009, 08:11 PM

Wear eye protection. And heavy gloves that extend at least halfway up the arms. And a sweatshirt and jeans that you are good with throwing away.

Posted by: CanRay Apr 12 2009, 08:13 PM

Cool! I want a Behemoth for a pet!!!

Posted by: Wounded Ronin Apr 12 2009, 08:53 PM

Feral cats or semi-feral cats are better than housecats. This is because they still have some survival instinct and drive left in them. Few things are more awe-inspiring than watching a cat pwn (and occasionally blind) a dog several times its size by rearing up on its hind legs and scratching the eyes.

Posted by: Dumori Apr 12 2009, 08:59 PM

I've seen a cat go for that 'nads before was hell funny. It was some twat trying to rough it up but the cat KOed him b4 I could intervene.

Posted by: Wounded Ronin Apr 12 2009, 09:05 PM

I fed a semi-feral cat in Micronesia and he used to fight on the roof every night with other cats. Eventually he got a big cut-type injury on his testicles, believe it or not, and it took forever to heal. One time I tried to help him out by spreading some bactoban on the testicle-cut but he just licked it off.

Posted by: kzt Apr 12 2009, 09:06 PM

I saw a housecat drive off an annoying German Shepard with a swipe to the nose. But a friend once saw a golden retriever suggest to the siamese he was living with that it wasn't nice to steal his food by taking the cats entire head in his mouth... He let him go, but it was apparently a significant emotional event that kept the cat from trying it again.

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 12 2009, 09:06 PM

Yeah, my tomcat was a hellion . .
his shoulder-height was just below my knee, and i ain't short!
Damn heavy too, and all of it muscles x.x
Bigger and heavier than some dogs i know.
he liked to hunt danish dogs, those big ones . .
And jumping on my from elevated placed you would not expect an animal of his size to be in . .
like, from the top of my door foir example . .
i once accidentally flung him straight through my room . .
he had been perching on top of my book shelf, which is about 2m high . .
there's about 2m space between the shelf and my bed.
i was sleeping in there, on my back . .
and that little monster jumped FROM THE SHELF onto my bed and half on my body, into my stomach.
that was the ONE TIME i REALLY did a crunch . . and subsequently flung him off of me and through the room.
coughing and wheezing, i switched on my lamp, and there about 1m away from my feet on the ground he was.
claws ground into the carpet, to catch himself, really flat on the ground, and his face, oh i will never forget that ^^
he looked like: =O.O= (what did i do?;_;)
but he never ever did that again ^^

Posted by: LamplightSlasher Apr 12 2009, 09:45 PM

I hate to be a thread nazi, but can we at least keep this related to Shadowrun? How about regaling us with tales of your characters encountering the critters I mentioned in the Original Post? Maybe some suggestions on how to utilize such critters effictively. I think the NMCLA (National Man Cat Love Association) forums are elsewhere.

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 12 2009, 10:01 PM

Well, my very first character was, for obvious reasons, a tomcat shaman . .
He adored felines like i do, for obvious reasons . .
and he hid behind the muscle of the team, when a cat hissed at him.
When asked he told them to watch him, when he's doing his job.
Of course, his Mage-Mask was that of an angry cat. He was basically afraid of angry cats, because he associated them with what happened when he let lose.
Now, throwing around motorbikes, lightning and fireballs(yeah, show off, i know, but it's a CAT-Shaman) and then thinking that's directed at you?
And yes, of course, the GM could not help himself and had to use that against the character with, you guessed it, cat based critters of his own make-up more or less.
Yeah, no, Character died after a cat that looked too innocent basically made him walk off a cliff . .

Posted by: AllTheNothing Apr 12 2009, 10:32 PM

So evil, so good.

Anyway being a cat related thread I would like to post a cat of mine:

Hellcat

B: 1-4 usualy 2
A: 3-8 usualy 6
R: 3-8 usualy 6
S: 1-4 usualy 2
C: 2-7 usualy 4
I: 3-8 usualy 5
L: 1-6 usualy 3
W: 2-7 usualy 4
Edge: 2-7 usualy 3

Power:
Cat Speach (just like Dragonspeach), Concealment (self only), Confusion, Divination, Dual Natured, Enhached Sense(Low Light Vision, Wideband Hearing (High), Smell, Taste), Fear, Natural Weapon (claw bite: STR/2 + 1 P AP: 0) Psychokinesis, Sentience
Special:
All the Hell Cats have the Adept quality

Hellcats are huge (half meter long not counting the tail, same proportion of a common cat) felines, its fur is jet black and very short, the eyes jade green; they are social creatures that get along well with metahumans even thought their habit to adopt whole neighborhoods as homeground without anyone being the wiser, they find metahumanity both fascinating and entertaining, considering it their natural habitat rather than a component of it, they are individualistic but when necessary they know how to cooperate, have serious problems at taking orders (corporations have attempted to tame them, failing) but can work with people that respect them and tend to be attracted by magicaly active people (especialy the one having Cat as mentor spirit).
TRIVIA: the name is due an unispired parabiologist that thought that after the Hellhound and the Devil Rat an Hellcat was the best name to give to an awakened cat.

Posted by: LamplightSlasher Apr 12 2009, 10:57 PM

^^
Cool! That's the kinda stuff I'm looking for. Have you used that critter in game? How'd it go?

Posted by: Ancient History Apr 12 2009, 11:28 PM

I blame editorial. Because I can!

Posted by: IceKatze Apr 12 2009, 11:50 PM

hi hi

I always pictured blackberry cats as that old villain who always has a cat on his lap, but in reality, the cat is the real villain and the old guy is just a puppet.

Posted by: AllTheNothing Apr 12 2009, 11:51 PM

Never used, just kept going around my head from time to time; I just wanted to know what people thought about it, and I'm happy that you liked it.

Posted by: AllTheNothing Apr 12 2009, 11:55 PM

Didn't the 007's Spectre's boss have a cat?

Posted by: Wounded Ronin Apr 13 2009, 01:14 AM

Yes, go watch "You Only Live Twice".

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 13 2009, 08:27 AM

Iron Claw from Inspector Gadget comes to mind too ^^

Posted by: Wesley Street Apr 13 2009, 09:41 AM

Nermal was male. He was just so sickeningly cute that he seemed female.

Ugh, Jim Davis is the worst kind of sell-out hack cartoonist. Which makes him http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/ to make http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwlB2R6zkaM!

Posted by: darthmord Apr 13 2009, 01:08 PM

Explain LOLCATS then.

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 13 2009, 01:35 PM

Co-Ink-I-Dink

Posted by: Prime Mover Apr 13 2009, 02:04 PM

Being horribly allergic to the little monstrosities I prefer my cats to be villains! They seem to know when they can kill you with there mere presence and I attract the little fraggers like magnets. EVEEEL!

Tiger stop teasing....really wanting Running Wild (not being careful what I wish for:).

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 13 2009, 04:08 PM

I don't think i would want to live if i were allergic to cats . .
And they do it more or less on purpose, but it's not to hurt/annoy you.
It's because people who are allergic generally don't smell like other cats and leave them alone.
So in giving them space to decide for their own, you become interesting and sympathic to them.
Thus they want your companionship.

Posted by: hobgoblin Apr 13 2009, 04:36 PM

ugh, sounds like a howto on attracting female companionship...

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 13 2009, 04:42 PM

Yes well, there's a Reason for Cat-GIRLS as opposed to Cat-GUYS . .

Posted by: hobgoblin Apr 13 2009, 04:45 PM

besides the hissy fits and "claws"?

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 13 2009, 04:50 PM

Cat-Fights, Women and Men fighting like Cats and Dogs. If they are wearing Make-Up they are afraid of/hate Water. They like to keep themselves clean as a cat does. Fish/TurDuckEn seems to be a bigger favourite among Women than Meat as opposed to Men. They are both horribly concerned about their hair. And their Nails. And their Smell. They are both Pickish like all hell. Hell hath no Fury like a Woman scorned. Or a wet Cat.
The List goes on and on and on ad nauseum *snickers*

Posted by: LamplightSlasher Apr 13 2009, 04:58 PM

Seriously guys.... Hijack someone elses thread if you want to discuss this off-topic stuff. I appreciate that you all love cats or what, but I'm trying to get some info related to gameplay and the same posters just keep coming in here to yak about their real world cats. Stahlseele: I'm pointing my finger at you....

Posted by: Dumori Apr 13 2009, 05:43 PM

Take it easy your still getting a nice chunk of ontopic info and at least its not 100% oftopic some of these cat anecdotes could help you make your para-cats more believable. A Backberry cat converts quite nicely to SR4 powers wise but stat wise in having a problem manly cos I've never played SR3. But Ill see what I can do.
edit: added stats but don't know how to re factor damage as of yet.

Goes:
Body, Agility, Reaction, Strength, Charisma, Logic, Intuition, Willpower, Essence, Initiative.
That's a rough conversion.

Posted by: nezumi Apr 13 2009, 06:27 PM

Indeed, unless you understand cattitude, you will never understand His Lordship, Sir Blackberry of Felis.

I ran a short (and silly) mission in which the character (1-1 group) was mentally kidnapped by a blackberry cat and forced to serve in his manor, where her duty was to feed all of Sir Blackberry's underlings (also cats) and provide pets and other services as appropriate. Really, a domesticated cat's needs are fairly modest, but require constant attention to provide. You can really tell you're in trouble though when you begin reading your cat bedtime stories.

Posted by: BishopMcQ Apr 13 2009, 09:40 PM

Prime--Remember that geneticists have had plenty of time to do everything from cloning cats, to making them, well, better. If we can make a hypo-allergenic cat, imagine what SR science can do.

There are hints about Running Wild to be found in the monthly Dev Chats.

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 13 2009, 09:45 PM

I'd really like to see how they were able to mkae cats better O.o
In their own Size-Category, there's no other animal that is as perfect o.O
Cats have no natural enemies in their own size. aside for other cats.
Just like Humans have no natural enemy, aside from mankind itself . .
If cats had developed sentience, or a society of their own, scientists
would LAUGH at our opposable thumbs i guess . .
OK, in Shadowrun, Dogs seem to be bigger, better, stronger, faster, meaner, more dangerous and at the same time more tame-able . .

Posted by: hobgoblin Apr 13 2009, 10:27 PM

now, combo a cat with the biodrone stuff in augmentation, and the likely vat-mods from running wild, and you get what?

makes me thing of count zero, where some cybered up dogs where desimating the local squirrel population, thanks to ir vision...

here kitty kitty kitty *snikt*

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 13 2009, 10:31 PM

Still, giving Cats magical Powers . . even Cats the size of a house-cat can be dangerous to humans.
and now they don't even have to lay one claw on your body to make you bleed O.o
and then you are fud! . . i am suddenly seeing a lol-talis-cat or lol blackberry cat feeding on devilrats.
goin: =^.^= Om Nom Nom Nom, easy prey, comes to me so i can eat it. Life is gooood *purrrrrrrr*

Posted by: hobgoblin Apr 13 2009, 10:37 PM

vat grown drop bear cybered to the scalp...

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 13 2009, 10:50 PM

ok, just thought i'd drop this in here real fast:
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4614/killerkittybymathieubea.jpg

Posted by: Method Apr 13 2009, 11:17 PM

That is one biodrone platform I would love to get my grubby little GM hands on.

Posted by: BishopMcQ Apr 13 2009, 11:32 PM

Biodrones are just the tip of the iceberg...

Posted by: Tiger Eyes Apr 13 2009, 11:37 PM

And they said I was being a tease...

Posted by: BishopMcQ Apr 13 2009, 11:49 PM

Well, I've said before that writing for Running Wild forced me to rethink traditional security measures and security practices in the Sixth World. Bad Moon Rising showed an example of seagulls as a security measure. Now think about what happens when the Renraku exec buys a kitten for his daughter and what measures he may take to keep her safe.

I wore my evil GM hat a lot while I was writing...

Edit: My Evil GM hat works just as well from a player stand-point. Imagine what a runner team could do, knowing there was a cat in the area that everyone expected to be there.

Posted by: hobgoblin Apr 14 2009, 12:03 AM

looks like someone took battlecattle stats and scaled down...

Posted by: Method Apr 14 2009, 12:27 AM

You sure did.

Posted by: Tiger Eyes Apr 14 2009, 02:09 AM

See, I promised that there'd be cuddly kittens.

Oh, and McQ? Do you have a "nice GM hat"?

Posted by: BishopMcQ Apr 14 2009, 02:17 AM

Yep. I wear it occassionally, and even dusted it off for the Scramble last year with Bull's team. (It most often sees use at the booth demos though...)

Posted by: TheForgotten Apr 14 2009, 02:32 AM

And that books is being released when...

Posted by: Prime Mover Apr 14 2009, 02:47 AM

A free box of adorable fluffy kittens if you tell !

Posted by: LamplightSlasher Apr 14 2009, 02:52 AM

I can't remember which book I read it in, but there was a suggestion "no one knows whether or not critters can be technomancers"... Nice. I couldn't help but wonder how an animal would behave in the grid. What kind of prey might a gator technomancer pursue? Oh the sinister possibilities.

Posted by: Tiger Eyes Apr 14 2009, 03:04 AM

Not even being small, defenseless, and cute could save me if I went against CGL's policy of no-release-dates...



Mmmhmmm... page 79, Augmentation. Baka Dabora.

Posted by: LamplightSlasher Apr 14 2009, 03:20 AM

^^
Yup... That's too awesome.

Posted by: Fuchs Apr 14 2009, 08:48 AM

One of the PCs in my campaign had a Talis Cat as a pet. Then she had kittens. Then the mage - who saw the cat hunt down an ork before she got adopted by the other PC - got bullied into taking two of the kittens. Between the one room he had long since converted into a terrarium for his awakened chameleon and the grocery bills for the kittens he hasn't that much living space left in his flat (which also houses the ghost of his precedessor, and his ally spirit).

Two talis kittens were taken with the first PC when she was retired, but the mother stayed in the group's house, together with a regular cat.

Posted by: Fuchs Apr 14 2009, 08:54 AM

Oh, and from "stupid ways to die" (back in the SR2 days):

GM: Upon coming home you find a cat in your bedroom.
Player: My apartment has an expensive high level security system.
GM: Yes, I know. The obvious conclusion is that someone cracked it to let the cat inside.
Player: Ah, so it must be a threat! Another attempt at assassination!
GM: Likely, yes, given your earlier troubles.
Player: I cast shapechange into a weasel and attack it!
GM: The cat seems to grow to the size of a cheetah.

Melee with something while having that nice +2 TN modifier for sustaining a spell never was that good an idea, compared to, like mana- or stunbolting it, shooting it, or closing the door and calling animal control.

Posted by: hyzmarca Apr 14 2009, 09:06 AM

10 rules for dealing with Blackberry cats.

1) Stay Away from them.
2) Do not go near them.
3) If you do find yourself near one, run away as quickly as possible.
4) If it follows you, try to find some catnip. But, for the love of god, don't carry any with you.
5) Do not attack the Blackberry cat.
6) Do not anger the Blackberry cat.
7) Do not annoy the Blackberry cat.
Do not feed the Blackberry cat.
9) Do not look like you'd be fun to screw around with.
10) Plug your ears.

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 14 2009, 09:27 AM

Didn't Holly Brighton have a Blackberry Cat as a pet? O.o

Posted by: GreyBrother Apr 14 2009, 09:45 AM

Fix'd

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 14 2009, 09:54 AM

i see what you did there . .

Posted by: Dumori Apr 14 2009, 11:54 AM

Have I tab back to a *chan?

Posted by: GreyBrother Apr 14 2009, 12:27 PM

No no. Dumpshock's not like /b/ where Candlejack can come every ti

Posted by: Dumori Apr 14 2009, 12:53 PM

Rule 1 & 2.
Plus the Candlejack meme is old and a myt

Posted by: darthmord Apr 14 2009, 01:44 PM

Heh, my old SR group would rather deal with Behemoths and Dragons than with a single Talis Cat.

They said it was a more fair fight than going against a Talis cat.

I wonder why...

<.<.
.>.>

Posted by: Marduc Apr 14 2009, 02:06 PM

Good advice,
Now lets up our collective evil GM hats and think about the fun we could have with blackberry cats


Daugther of executive finds aforementioned cat and takes home. Cat has fun with family and shadowrunners are hired for a hit against the family's guard Barghast

Posted by: Prime Mover Apr 14 2009, 02:34 PM

Team is hired to travel to London for some pricey wetwork. A little old lady living in a big empty house. Her Blackberry cat takes offense at the intruders and turns them against each other as they try to reach the old lady. (Who is a capable magician in her own right.) It's like Monty Python meets home alone.

Nothing better then a dry humored old British lady and her devil cat to spice up a good assassination.

Edit: Lady Maude and Mr. Whiskers

Posted by: LamplightSlasher Apr 14 2009, 04:33 PM

This cat is going to be way too deadly to run against my starting players isn't it?

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 14 2009, 05:37 PM

Probbaly.
But that's the same with most Cat based critters.
I think some of the devs have a weak spot for felidae ^^

Posted by: kzt Apr 14 2009, 05:48 PM

It can just "make friends" with the barghast. Then it gets protected by them too. The damn things are really powerful.

Posted by: LamplightSlasher Apr 14 2009, 05:49 PM

Any suggestions for a paranormal criiter that might be a little easier for the PCs to tackle out of the starting blocks?

Posted by: kzt Apr 14 2009, 05:53 PM

It depends. They can be hugely deadly or just kind of fun. A blackberry cat that decides to move into your hideout could be interesting. But it could really annoy the players.

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 14 2009, 05:53 PM

Some of the Canis Family perhaps?
I don't have the book at hand, being at work and all . .

Posted by: Marduc Apr 15 2009, 07:29 AM

The barghast chewed up the cat's favourite toy. Now he's in for it...

Reflect desire: "Wanting to bare your jugulars to my claws"