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Posted by: Quix Jan 25 2004, 01:38 AM

My players have noticed that astral barriers can't pass through astral beings so they've decided to see what happens if they put a ward on a bullet and shoot it at an astral being.

I've going to have the astral being take damage from the ward as if in astral combat with it. The real question is with dual natured biengs/ astral precieving ones. Which should interact first? The astral body with the ward or the bullet with the flesh? I'm leaning towards bullet with the flesh and treating astral persieving beings/dual natured beings as a similar difference as between night vision and normal vision.

Any opinions?

Posted by: Herald of Verjigorm Jan 25 2004, 01:55 AM

The rules for forced combat exist only when an astr9ally active entity is squeezed between a ward and a hard place. One example is the shifter in an elevator, the meat can't stop, so the astral has to fight.

The warded bullet will do nothing to a purely astral target, it can just move out of the way.

As for your question, define whether the ward is larger than the bullet. If it is, the astral combat test goes first, and if the critter wins that test, the bullet drops.

Posted by: Backgammon Jan 25 2004, 02:13 AM

Well, it doesn't work that way.

But even if it did, shooting a solid astral entity at another would not hurt. Real bullets hurt cause they damage tissue. Astral entities have no tissue. A warded bullet wouldn't do anything. Kinda like shooting a water bullet at a lake.

Posted by: toturi Jan 25 2004, 12:51 PM

QUOTE (Backgammon)

But a astral being cannot pass through a ward without engaging it in astral combat. Hence if the ward is moving as it is in this case, the being must avoid it to avoid damage.

A ward is astrally solid. A dual being is also astrally soild. What happens when 2 solid objects meet?

Posted by: hobgoblin Jan 25 2004, 04:20 PM

err i dont think you canward a bullet as its suppose to find its size from the room your in or there about. now a astral barrier spell hooked up to a bullet is a totaly diffrent story (it makes me think about hte old sr2 thread about magic bullets when anchoring wasnt a mundane triggable form of spell lock)...

Posted by: Herald of Verjigorm Jan 25 2004, 06:44 PM

QUOTE (toturi)

What happens when 2 solid objects meet?

When two solid objects meet, inertia, density, and hardness come into play. There is no inertia on the astral, so the rest of the equation doesn't matter. The only time you can force an astral entity to deal with a ward is when they are trapped and the ward is trying to squeeze your target. This is difficult to do to purely astral targets.