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Posted by: Red-ROM Nov 2 2009, 03:14 AM

ok, Am I reading this right?

for every 2 points over body*2 you lose 1 point agility and reaction(i.e. body 3 loses points @ 8 armor)

also if wearing 2 pieces of armor you only count the higher of the ratings, but you add them together for calculating encumberance(so an armored vest(6/4) under a lined coat(6/4) adds no extra protection, but costs you 4 points of agility and reaction?because you're 12/8 for encumberance?)

Posted by: Jericho Alar Nov 2 2009, 03:56 AM

You seem to have it, except that the rules specify (or fraction thereof) meaning you round up. (SR4A, 161). so body 3 actually loses its first point at 7 armor.

Generally the only time it is worth layering armor is if you are wearing a high ballistic/low impact piece in conjunction with a piece that is low ballistic/high impact. (In sr3 you got half the second highest piece added as well, but this resulted frequently in double digit armor ratings...).

Posted by: Marwynn Nov 2 2009, 03:59 AM

And of course FFBA is exempt from these rules. But those are about right. And also, Body x 3 for customization.

Posted by: Jericho Alar Nov 2 2009, 04:11 AM

FFBA is what *really* broke the sr3 rules actually. if you played without it the layering rules weren't too crazy.. playing with it even just the baseline FFBA+Armor Jacket was pretty hardcore.

Posted by: Neraph Nov 2 2009, 04:05 PM

One of my favorites is full FFBA and the Evo HEL suit. Really easy to get good armor high, with a lot of special environment protections. Your character has to be comfortable with their form though, as both of those are skin-tight (or nearly so).

Posted by: Blade Nov 2 2009, 04:22 PM

Oh yes, if you didn't have apply armor degradation rules, someone with a decent Body who maxed out his armor with FFBA couldn't be hurt by anything that didn't fire APDS or in burst-fire.
But I have to admit that I'm sometimes facing the same trouble in SR4, with the ork (hopefully he's not a troll) in security armor being able to shrug off most shots that would severely harm any other team member.