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Posted by: Ogrebear Apr 9 2011, 09:40 AM

Seems the spike babies are already influencing the world- Elf posers come early!!

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ear-pointing-surgery-elf-ears-mr-spock/story?id=13317198

Posted by: Yerameyahu Apr 9 2011, 12:16 PM

This is actually a pretty old 'news' story, too. They've been around for a long time.

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 9 2011, 12:23 PM

people are dumb. deal with it.

Posted by: Yerameyahu Apr 9 2011, 12:25 PM

He is, by making a thread that points it out.

Posted by: CanRay Apr 9 2011, 04:58 PM

My tear-stained corner proves I can't deal with the stupid any longer. It is branded into my very soul!!!

Posted by: Pepsi Jedi Apr 9 2011, 06:41 PM

I don't see why people are freaking out. How many people do you see with pierced ears? Hell, I saw some 55 year old grand mother with booger bling the other day at arbys (( nose piercing)) I am one of the last people I know that does NOT have a tattoo (( and I'm getting one in June. Already on the book. The artist is that in demand)). How are elf ear mods' any different? It's just another thing. Doesn't make them 'Dumb' or 'stupid' other than the people with pierced ears, noses, lips, eyebrows, belly buttons, tongues, penises, labia. ect ect ect. Just different strokes. I say bring on the elf ears. But only on ladies. *nods sagely* I don't need the competition from other guys. lol

Posted by: Yerameyahu Apr 9 2011, 06:54 PM

Not that I care, but this isn't a piercing. It's an elf-ening. That's different.

Posted by: Pepsi Jedi Apr 9 2011, 07:03 PM

Yeah.. One's punching a HOLE through part of your body and sticking a bit of metal through it, a place like an ear.

The other is making a slit at the top of an ear and Throwing a stitch or two into it so it heals in a point.

The difference is very minimal.

Tattooing is taking ink and putting it on a needle and thrusting it into the flesh 100s to 1000s to 10,000s of times.

*shrugs* I don't see a huge difference in terms of level of intensity.

Posted by: Yerameyahu Apr 9 2011, 07:17 PM

No one said anything about intensity. A piercing isn't an attempt to be more like a mythical race. An elf-ening *is*. I just explained that. What it *is* like is getting vampire teeth, or dyeing your skin (permanently) blue like Avatar, etc.

Posted by: Pepsi Jedi Apr 9 2011, 07:22 PM

Naaa it's just body modification. I don't think most of those people are like' YEAH I'm AN ELF! MUAHAHAHHAAH" They're just like "Hey I'd like to do this to my body because I like the way it looks".

Not for nothing, but going 'It's an elf thing' isn't explaining it. Any more than "That guy's got alot of piercings' explains piercings. lol

Posted by: Yerameyahu Apr 9 2011, 07:35 PM

I think it's pretty clear. There's 'just modification' and there's 'posing'. It's true in the SR setting, and it's true now. They're different. Not better/worse, whatever, but clearly distinct in this sense.

Posted by: Pepsi Jedi Apr 9 2011, 07:39 PM

I don't think so at all. I've known some pretty serious body mod people and none of them thought they were a different species. They just do it for personal reasons. They like how it looks. I'm sure there's a few freaks out there that think they're elves born in human bodies, but there's a few people that dress up in furry animal costumes to have sex too. Doesn't mean every person you see in costume is that sort of guy or gal.

Posted by: Yerameyahu Apr 9 2011, 08:40 PM

None of that is what I said. I said that posing is distinct from simple ornamentation. I didn't say that everyone with elf ears is posing, or identifies as an elf. Earrings, on the other hand, *can't* be posing; elf-ening can.

Posted by: Hamsnibit Apr 9 2011, 10:01 PM

Well guys - and here we see the reason why elf poser is in fact a negative quality.
Anyways these people are in fact really intelligent - by taking the negative quality they gain their 10 Karma for it and buy active or knowledge skills.
Dont judge this behavior prematurely.

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 9 2011, 11:35 PM

Flaws taken in game don't give anything and still cost karma to buy off as normal.
Also, Ork-Posers last longer. For the obvious Pun on the Thread title.

Posted by: pbangarth Apr 10 2011, 03:46 AM

Sorry, the first thing I thought of when I read the thread title was premature ejaculation. Mind in the gutter, I guess.

Posted by: Yerameyahu Apr 10 2011, 03:51 AM

Too late, Stahlseele apparently came before you.

Posted by: Draco18s Apr 10 2011, 05:12 AM

Guys. Guys. Guys. And gals. Elf ears are really not that interesting.

http://www.google.com/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&hl=en&q=stalking+cat&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1584&bih=662.

Posted by: The Dragon Girl Apr 10 2011, 05:19 AM

I don't see the big? I've been planning to get my ears tipped for years, soon as I can get over to phoenix, since Stalking Cat's body modder works out of there and I got the recommendation from him. I don't think -anyone- who gets their ears tipped actually wants to be/thinks they're an elf.

Posted by: Pepsi Jedi Apr 10 2011, 05:27 AM

Word!

Posted by: Pepsi Jedi Apr 10 2011, 05:27 AM

Word!

Posted by: The Dragon Girl Apr 10 2011, 05:31 AM

Granted I already have three tattoos (one of them is a partial, and will be a full sleeve when its done) and seven piercings, so maybe you have to be into it to understand? ymmv

Posted by: Pepsi Jedi Apr 10 2011, 06:32 AM

I've got an appointment to get this

http://i569.photobucket.com/albums/ss137/Rulk2400/Mactat111.jpg

On my inner right forearm on June 29th.

Posted by: Ogrebear Apr 10 2011, 08:40 AM

Did he roll good or bad on the SURGE table??

Posted by: Tyro Apr 10 2011, 08:58 AM

Stalking Cat is amazing. I wish I'd gotten around to visiting the Whidby Island furry house parties back when he lived there. I'd love to get my ears tipped (for aesthetics; I'm not a big fan of elves, actually), but it sounds like I should wait until it's safer with more reliable results. I don't have the money right now anyway, and I have higher priorities (mostly survival-oriented; this economy is especially hard on people collecting disability).

Posted by: Tiralee Apr 10 2011, 09:21 AM

"That's not how you spell Uvula"

"It's not "Uvula""



-Tir

Posted by: KCKitsune Apr 10 2011, 06:44 PM

With ear/nose/<where ever the hell you want it> piercing, you can REMOVE the metal and appear normal. Think about going into a job interview with elf ears. I mean really, someone is going to hire you?

Pepsi, you can cover up your tattoo, but elf ears... not so easy.

Posted by: The Dragon Girl Apr 10 2011, 06:50 PM

I don't know about that- theres a link up there of Stalking Cat's mods, and people hire -him- all the time. It really depends on what field you're in, where you're applying to, and how good you are.

Plus pointy ears are one of the more subtle mods you can get, and easily covered up with hair. Tongue splitting now.. that one is hard to hide.

Posted by: Pepsi Jedi Apr 10 2011, 08:14 PM

Sure you can. Pretty much any hairstyle that's not buzzed on the side can be used to cover the tops of your ears. And even if not. after they heal, you can always claim you were born that way. My wife has one ear that naturally comes to some what of a point (( not as dramatic as the crafted ones but more a point than a curve)). Elf ears wouldn't stop you from getting jobs.

The people I chuckle about are the ones that get stuff tattooed on like, the front of their throats. Ugg. those make me wince just to look at. Or face tattoos. But those are becoming more common as well. I don't mind face tattoos but I could see face tattoos making it harder to get hired (( depending on what you get))

For ME.. (( and this is just Me)) but BOOGER BLING really makes me go "Yuck" all these people with nose piercings. I keep seeing like old ladys with them or fugly people with bits of metal sticking through their nose. That just makes me go yuck. I know they're much more common now and pretty accepted socially but that's the current body mod that turns me off. Lip rings, fine. ears, fine. Eyebrows.. eh.. ok... but booger bling makes me shake my head.

but I'm not arguing that pointed ears aren't body mods. They are. I just don't think the people getting it done are walking around looking people in the eye and going "I'm an elf."

Tongue splitting is pretty yucky (( for me)) too. But I'm not sure how much it shows just in casual conversation. I've never actually met someone with it and talked to them a while. I know many people with tongue piercings that don't show in everyday interaction.

Posted by: Tyro Apr 10 2011, 08:38 PM

I used to know someone with a septum piercing who went to Renfaires with a foot-long African porcupine quill through her nose ^_^

Elf ears are very easy to hide. My hair comes to mid-back - there are many, MANY hairstyles I could sport which would do the job.

Posted by: Draco18s Apr 11 2011, 04:07 AM

See, that's awesome.

Posted by: Tyro Apr 11 2011, 04:24 AM

Especially with the V-neck black leather dress and crossed jeweled daggers ^_^
Oh, and the buzzed mohawk

Posted by: longbowrocks Apr 12 2011, 07:26 AM

Yes, this is a big difference, but not in a bad way.
Elves are often called "fair folk" in literature, and almost always are "fair folk" in any representation. All in all, elves are supposed to be the ideal for beauty that humans strive for, and so the ears are a natural progression from there. Even if elves aren't the ideal, there are plenty of people who think elves are damn sexy, and the ears are the only part of the elf look that can never come naturally.

Posted by: mister__joshua Apr 12 2011, 09:43 AM

That's one opinion. I, on the other hand, am preparing for the Awakening

Posted by: Brazilian_Shinobi Apr 12 2011, 02:56 PM

While it may be so. Your only hope is to Goblinize now

Posted by: CanRay Apr 12 2011, 03:10 PM

I'll try to pass on that, thanks. I already practically had to learn how to walk again once in my life...

Posted by: The Shuhite Apr 12 2011, 03:55 PM

I just noticed this on the comment thread for the article in the OP

Do you think we have a spike baby here?

Posted by: Tyro Apr 12 2011, 07:52 PM

My paternal grandfather has one pointed ear, one round. What would you call that?

Posted by: Faraday Apr 12 2011, 07:57 PM

Phenotypic anomaly?

Posted by: Tyro Apr 12 2011, 07:57 PM

Sure, bring logic and real-world science into it

Posted by: Doc Chase Apr 12 2011, 08:06 PM

A half-elf.

Posted by: Brazilian_Shinobi Apr 12 2011, 08:28 PM

Bazinga!

Posted by: Pepsi Jedi Apr 12 2011, 08:54 PM

My wife has one pointed and one round.

Posted by: CanRay Apr 13 2011, 12:18 AM

My Grandfather was nearly six feet tall (Very tall for his generation.), and had pointed ears. He was also charismatic as hell, from what I hear.

And that part of my family comes from Celtic roots.

Posted by: Tyro Apr 13 2011, 12:38 AM

Do you take after him?

Posted by: CanRay Apr 13 2011, 12:50 AM

In some ways, not the pointed ears, however.

But, honestly, from my posts here, can you even think about calling me Charismatic in any way?

Posted by: Tyro Apr 13 2011, 12:51 AM

More blunt. Not suppressed-rage Ork blunt, but definitely not stereotypical Elf.

Posted by: Faraday Apr 13 2011, 12:51 AM

Charisma tends to belong in the eye of the beholder. I'm told that I am very charismatic by some, while others barely notice.

Posted by: CanRay Apr 13 2011, 12:57 AM

Well, there are blunt, jerk elves.

As a Canuck, I'm an asshole. As an Ontarian, I'm only a little worse than normal.

Posted by: Tyro Apr 13 2011, 01:16 AM

Around here, Canadians have a reputation for politeness. Are Americans just bigger assholes, so Canadians come off as relatively more polite?

Posted by: CanRay Apr 13 2011, 01:58 AM

No idea. We're all just folk as far as I've been able to figure out. But I haven't exactly been all over the country.

I've seen nice, decent places. And I've seen places that are proud of their bigotry.

I think I'll let the history of Canada and it's willingness to help out in difficult situations stand on it's own. Peacekeepers, Smokejumpers, and the like (I laughed my ass off in one movie, "We're supposed to be Albertan Smokejumpers! You were supposed to work on your French!"). As well as all the homes that opened up to hold all the airlines during 9/11.

Posted by: Tyro Apr 13 2011, 02:20 AM

Canada has a well-deserved excellent international reputation. I'm frankly ashamed of my country's actions in the last decade.

Posted by: Pepsi Jedi Apr 13 2011, 02:58 AM

Course.. the Canadians did raid south once and burn the white house..... I've quite a few Canadian friends. They tote that one out all the time.

Posted by: CanRay Apr 13 2011, 03:09 AM

The British helped a little.

And, to be fair, it was in retaliation to the US Invasion.

Posted by: Tyro Apr 13 2011, 03:14 AM

And then there was that tornado...

Posted by: Faraday Apr 13 2011, 05:10 AM

I didn't vote for Them, neither did you. Not much to be done about that.

Posted by: Pepsi Jedi Apr 13 2011, 05:15 AM

I will say that the Canadians -I- personally have met. Have been very very nice. Save for three jerks. But three out of 50+ isn't bad.

The Russians I've met have been fun and nice too.

Posted by: longbowrocks Apr 13 2011, 05:37 AM

What?! You didn't vote for the Canadians? No one I know did either!
What is the world coming to when Canadians no longer need a US majority vote to be known as such?

Posted by: Tiny Deev Apr 13 2011, 06:04 AM

@Pepsi Jedi:

I think its more along the lines of scarification then piercings. Only because its permanent. And thats what makes it more extreme.
I've had piercings, but I decided they were stupid a while back (one got ripped out of my ear, it hurt like hell and I don't want that again. xD ) and you can't notice that I ever had any. Scarification or Sculpting (or even eyeball tattoos) are pretty much permanent, and not something you would like to wake up with after a night of tequila, you know?

Posted by: CanRay Apr 13 2011, 02:06 PM

I voted for Canadians.

Already figured out who I'm voting for, however, I do want to let my local Member of Parliament know my personal wishes. Just one voice, but, if they're not heard...

Anyhow, we're going off the rails into "Lock this thread" levels here. How 'bout them Seadogs?

Posted by: Draco18s Apr 13 2011, 02:19 PM

I vote Cthulhu. Because why would you vote for a lesser evil?

Posted by: longbowrocks Apr 13 2011, 04:05 PM

Quite right. We can't have the mounties in office now can we? Lord knows what they'd do with the country. Perhaps change its name to Canadia.

Posted by: CanRay Apr 13 2011, 04:08 PM

Sorry, but one of the Party Leaders wins on the "Evil" front... I'll let you guess which one.

Posted by: longbowrocks Apr 13 2011, 04:10 PM

Ronald Reagan Jr. IV, evil twin of Reagan III?

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 13 2011, 04:12 PM

'cause if all else fails, a normal politician can normally be taken care of by a single bullet.

Posted by: Draco18s Apr 13 2011, 04:16 PM

The problem is more the other 300 of them being blockheads, not the figurehead at the top.

In any case, we're getting too political again.

Posted by: longbowrocks Apr 13 2011, 04:16 PM

So can Cthulu.
http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-04/art/nsmb-bullet-bill.jpg

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 13 2011, 04:22 PM

Can you be more political than talking about cthulhu and shooting politicians? ^^

http://www.geekologie.com/2009/10/09/gPE89.gif

Posted by: CanRay Apr 13 2011, 04:30 PM

Sure. You take a Italian Rifle into a Book Depository, and...

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 13 2011, 04:32 PM

No no, you need a masked vigilante working for the CIA to be the shooter from the fence!

Posted by: Tyro Apr 13 2011, 05:19 PM

Maybe I should get my ears pointed, then run for President and post on this forum.

Then I'd be political AND on topic!

Not to mention the source of YEARS of joke material ^_^

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 13 2011, 05:21 PM

And probably the target of not very few bullets *snickers*

Posted by: Malbur Apr 13 2011, 05:24 PM

I live in the Northeast US. Although people up here are a bit cooler and more conserved (in a social stance), I wouldn't say we're rude... though it does depend on who you run into. Around me, if you say "hi" to someone on the street, there's a decent chance they'll ignore you. But if you ask for help, there's a pretty good chance someone will stop and give you a hand.

Posted by: longbowrocks Apr 13 2011, 05:27 PM

Schooled me. Much better image.

Posted by: CanRay Apr 13 2011, 07:09 PM

It's a cultural thing. A lot of Canadians are in the "Polite" category per capita due to where they live and how they live.

Ontarians are typically a bit arrogant and self-centered, unless you're talking about Toronto. As I'm from Northern Ontario, and there may be children present, I won't talk about Hogtown.

Flatlanders (The Prairie Provinces) are pretty decent people from what I've seen, although there's a lot of crazy in Alberta.

British Columbia has a reputation for being laid back and peaceable types. But it's also a place to go when you really hate the government, want to live off the grid with a huge collection of firearms, and so forth. But they rarely get out, so do they really count?

Maritimers (The East Cost Island Provinces) are decent, hard working folks. It's home of the Acadians, who can be some of the nicest people you can meet, despite their history of dealing with the English.

Newfies (Newfoundland) have to be seen to be believed. Take Irish and Scottish, drop them on a new island, and just leave them there to develop their own culture and ways. Some are still a little bitter about joining Canada.

Quebec, I have droned on and on about. if you stick to the Saint Lawrence River, mainly Montreal, you're golden for the most part. A bit snooty and arrogant, but no worse than, say, New Yorkers. Head to some of the isolated parts, and they're still gearing up for a war against the Anglos to get their country back practically. (Or literally, if rumors of the FLQ coming back are true.). Then you head into the even more isolated parts and deal with the First Nations, and, well, depends on how well you make a first impression.

All that said, small towns are still small towns, outsiders are typically seen as good visitors (Hey, MONEY!), and poor neighbors (They're not really part of us, they're "From Away".).

From a Federal Standpoint (IE: Dealing with the Canadian Government), you've got a fairly conservative, middle-of-the-road, "Let's try to keep everyone happy" attitude. With some really good friendships. The British Commonwealth and Former Members of Good Standing (India), the USA, a few other places, and so on.

Pick a fight with any of those, or worse, pick a fight with England or Canada itself... *Shakes Head* You'll find out why Canada likes everyone being happy.

And now, how about those Mountain Dragons?

Posted by: Tyro Apr 13 2011, 07:14 PM

AWESOME!

Posted by: Stahlseele Apr 13 2011, 07:28 PM

Google is my bitch sometimes ^^

Isn't it? ^^

Posted by: The Dragon Girl Apr 15 2011, 06:50 AM

I pretty much treat any body mod- piercing, tat, scarification, cartilage remodeling, sub-dermal implants, what have you as a permanent choice and not to be made lightly

Posted by: Xahn Borealis Apr 18 2011, 08:11 PM

I'm planning on some of the body mods you'd need to spend a while in a tank for. Alien Look? Suits me.

Posted by: CanRay Apr 18 2011, 09:40 PM

Just don't go for the insect look.

Some people (rightfully) have itchy trigger fingers.

Posted by: Xahn Borealis Apr 18 2011, 09:58 PM

I reckon I've got til Against The Hive Masters comes out. Then arachnophobia is suddenly the thing EVERYONE'S about.

Posted by: Bigity Apr 18 2011, 10:04 PM

I loved that module. First ever time any players in our group got our hands on Panther Assault Cannons and the super duper gyro stabilization harnesses.

Posted by: Xahn Borealis Apr 18 2011, 10:14 PM

I love how no one caught on that it happened, too.

Posted by: Bigity Apr 18 2011, 10:16 PM

That and the corp managed to turn it into a profit with the trid footage

Or at least offset some of the costs.

Posted by: Xahn Borealis Apr 18 2011, 10:19 PM

When did the shadow community actually figure out it wasn't all special effects?