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Posted by: hobgoblin Apr 29 2011, 05:41 PM
http://defensetech.org/2011/04/29/france-using-concrete-bombs-in-libya/
Edit: Topic title corrected for spelling. - F4.0
Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Apr 29 2011, 05:59 PM
They are effective for what they are being used for.
Posted by: KCKitsune Apr 29 2011, 06:03 PM
The US had "inert bombs" for a while. Nothing says "Fuck You!" like 500 lbs of concrete going at 450 to 550 mph. There is footage of an Iraqi tank hiding under a bridge thinking he was safe... and then boom. Crushed his tank like a tin can.
Posted by: SpellBinder Apr 29 2011, 07:31 PM
Especially when using something as simple as a solid bomb like this. One way to look at it is "You're so unimportant we're using training ordinance on you."
Posted by: CanRay Apr 29 2011, 08:08 PM
Certainly beats the hell out of my buddy's tank crew that got pissed off when an IED went off under it.
Of course, that could be seen as a "Battle Of The Hi-Ex". Tanks usually win those battles when all you have is a clay wall.
Although, I'm now having pictures in my head of "Laser Guided Smart Bombs" made of concrete whose targeting systems and aiming fins cost more than the rest of the unit does.
Posted by: Nath Apr 29 2011, 08:32 PM
There have been some comments in the media about guided munitions costing more than the vehicles they're used against.
Posted by: CanRay Apr 29 2011, 09:03 PM
When said vehicle is a 1970s-era Technical, the "Dumb" bomb costs more than it without the JDAM tail kit.
Posted by: Kagetenshi Apr 29 2011, 10:23 PM
I'm waiting for them to start dropping abstract bombs.
~J
Posted by: Faraday Apr 29 2011, 10:55 PM
At that point, it's almost cheaper just to fire off dumb bombs in a spread pattern. Granted, it's kinda crappy for avoiding collateral damage, but it's probably pretty cost effective.
Posted by: CanRay Apr 29 2011, 11:01 PM
You'd think that, but where do you think the Bast... Sorry, "Insurgents" got their IED components from? Dud bombs that were dropped in a spread pattern by the Russians. And stuff left behind during retreat. And stuff they got on the black market that was sold as surplus. And...
Less weapons made are less weapons that go unused to bite us in the ass later when they walk out the back door, eh?
They're *STILL* clearing shells, bombs, and mines from WWI in France!
Posted by: Faraday Apr 30 2011, 01:36 AM
Less weapons made are less weapons that go unused to bite us in the ass later when they walk out the back door, eh?
They're *STILL* clearing shells, bombs, and mines from WWI in France!
Sadly, I think the biggest lesson in Afganistan is one of the oldest and most commonly forgotten.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfWDilXZQEo I'm only half-joking.
Posted by: CanRay Apr 30 2011, 02:13 AM
A lot of big lessons need to be learned from both Afghan wars. From studying the Russian failures and the Charlie-Foxtrot we have today.
Posted by: DWC Apr 30 2011, 03:21 AM
Plenty of people did learn from the Russians. Unfortunately, they were overruled by their commanding officers.
Posted by: CanRay Apr 30 2011, 03:30 AM
Lesson one: It doesn't matter whose side they're on, if they're trying to kill you, they're the enemy.
Posted by: pbangarth Apr 30 2011, 03:39 AM
~J
Posted by: pbangarth Apr 30 2011, 03:40 AM
... friendly fire?
Posted by: CanRay Apr 30 2011, 03:58 AM
"If they're firing at me, they're not friendly." was how one friend of mine put it to his CO once.
He also said, "If someone is shooting at me, the international incident has started. When I shoot back, I'll have ended it."
He was kicked out of the Canadian Armed Forces around that time. It was a Peacekeeping mission, you see, and...
Posted by: KarmaInferno Apr 30 2011, 04:16 AM
Was his name Skippy?
-k
Posted by: CanRay Apr 30 2011, 04:28 AM
No. Canadian Armed Forces, not US.
Although I did win major brownie points for having a rotating bit of Skippy's list as my Sig File at one workplace... My Supervisor was a former combat medic.
Posted by: Kyoto Kid May 1 2011, 02:31 AM
~J
...I'd think the French would be rather good at that.
...or at the very least, impressionistic bombs.
Posted by: Nath May 1 2011, 09:00 AM
...or at the very least, impressionistic bombs.
Posted by: Dakka Dakka May 1 2011, 09:04 AM
Posted by: CanRay May 1 2011, 02:43 PM
When filming "The Blues Brothers", the filmmakers had to get a "Air UN-worthyness certificate" from the Federal Aviation Administration to prove how UN-aerodynamic a Pinto really was.
So, while in Lybia, the forces there could be using Pintos filled with Illinois Nazis to drop on tanks.
Posted by: Kyoto Kid May 2 2011, 02:04 AM
..if they dropped Pinto Runabouts with full gas tanks they'd be firebobming Tripoli.
Posted by: CanRay May 2 2011, 02:33 AM
Depending on where they're dropping them, that might be a good thing.
Posted by: Kyoto Kid May 2 2011, 03:11 AM
>>>Breaking News<<<
On another front a report has been released at about 10:05 EDT, that Osama Bin Laden was killed in a rocket attack just outside of Islamabad, Pakistan.
Additional details indicate that the incident is said to have occurred about a week ago with release pending positive DNA confirmation.
The President is expected to address the nation in a short time on the situation.
Posted by: Kagetenshi May 2 2011, 03:34 AM
That's really not relevant to the topic.
~J
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