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Posted by: LukeZ May 12 2011, 11:08 PM

When you summon a Spirit, do the spirit arrive instantly at the end of the complex action?

Posted by: Irion May 12 2011, 11:20 PM

Yes.

Posted by: Dakka Dakka May 12 2011, 11:38 PM

On the astral plane though. So after the complex action to summon the spirit, you need a simple action to command it and the spirit needs a complex one to materialize if the task requires interaction with the physical plane.

Posted by: LukeZ May 12 2011, 11:55 PM

So if you have more than one pass per round you can summon with the first (complex) and give him an order with the second (simple).

Posted by: pbangarth May 13 2011, 01:26 AM

Correct. The spirit's response to the order would take time, depending on the action required. If it had to materialize, it would take a complex action to do so, and be able to act the next time it was free to spend a complex action.

Posted by: TheOOB May 13 2011, 08:25 AM

Thats why you summon your spirits and have them materialize before the shooting starts.

Posted by: scarius May 13 2011, 11:12 AM

i also have a question along these lines sort of...

how long does it take to bind a spirit?

we are currently playing in a 4A game and no one seems to know, also i am away from my books and the GM of the game dosent like to lend his out (it was after a rules lawyer, lawyered him on some stuff, also the last book he lent out didnt come back for the better part of 2 months)

Posted by: LurkerOutThere May 13 2011, 11:36 AM

Binding takes a number of hours equal to the force of the spirit. - Details are on P.184 of SR4A. It also requires materials equal to 500x the force of the spirit.

Posted by: Fringe May 13 2011, 11:40 AM

"Binding requires a ritual of a number of hours equal to the force of the spirit. The ritual materials, available from a talismonger, cost 500¥ times the Force of the spirit. Magical lodges are not required for binding, but they are often used out of habit." (SR4A, p 188).

Agh! Ninja'd!

Posted by: scarius May 13 2011, 11:14 PM

thanks lads...

i thought it was something like that, and as the GM doesnt know magic too well, so yeah thanks again