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Posted by: Naysayer May 19 2011, 04:46 AM

Elective amputation. New hand. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13273348

"The whole cyberpunk conceit of people just chopping off their limbs to get artificial replacements is ridiculous..."

Posted by: Yerameyahu May 19 2011, 04:53 AM

In fairness, his current hand is 100% (maybe 99%?) non-functional: no feeling, no movement. He's not removing a perfectly good hand.

Posted by: KCKitsune May 19 2011, 02:50 PM

I can't wait until they get the sensor count from 6 to 30 or more. With 6 the one kid was able to do a lot, but with 30 or more you might get something resembling a biological hand.

Posted by: Fatum May 19 2011, 05:54 PM

QUOTE (Naysayer @ May 19 2011, 08:46 AM) *
"The whole cyberpunk conceit of people just chopping off their limbs to get artificial replacements is ridiculous..."
well, whether it is ridiculous or not, the link is not a proof for either side, since his hand is, as pointed out by Yerameyahu, non-functional.

Posted by: CanRay May 19 2011, 08:58 PM

On the flipside, having even some sensation in prosthetic is supposed to cut down on phantom pain, not exactly a small thing.

Posted by: Method May 19 2011, 09:00 PM

Yeah technically this is elective in the "everything that isn't emergent is elective" sense, but its hardly the same as having a cosmetic procedure or Lasik surgery or whatever. I think the story title is meant to sound a little sensational (which is disappointing for the BBC).

Posted by: Squinky May 19 2011, 10:00 PM

Awesome.

Posted by: hobgoblin May 20 2011, 04:14 AM

the feedback system still relies on external stimuli it seems. Tho given how the brain can adapt to consistent external stimuli to the point of no longer being consciously aware of its presence (based on people wearing anklet that buzz in the direction of north and similar), i guess it works acceptably for now.

Posted by: CanRay May 20 2011, 04:38 AM

Considering the alternatives... Yeah.

We've come a long way since a wire hook was the best you could hope for.

Posted by: Xahn Borealis May 21 2011, 10:53 AM

QUOTE (Naysayer @ May 19 2011, 05:46 AM) *
"The whole cyberpunk conceit of people just chopping off their limbs to get artificial replacements is ridiculous..."

Where's that quote from?

Posted by: Morg May 25 2011, 04:59 AM

And the cyberzombie nation will rise...

Posted by: CanRay May 25 2011, 05:29 AM

QUOTE (Morg @ May 24 2011, 11:59 PM) *
And the cyberzombie nation will rise...

"The Robots are trying to kill us!" *Lights go out* "But I still have the Big Red Button to shut them all down fast."

Posted by: Morg May 26 2011, 05:19 PM

You will never stop my army of soulless monstrosities because we are http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/humanoids/dlr-super-robust-robot-hand We are http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/military-robots/boston-dynamics-building-fast-running-robot-cheetah-new-agile We are all http://spectrum.ieee.org/robotics/artificial-intelligence/a-robots-body-of-knowledge so Nuts and bolts to your little red button one of us will get you...some day... Ok ok we still have a lot of work before the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism and Robot army will bring forth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture to humanity but one day, one day you'll see

Posted by: TheOOB May 27 2011, 08:54 AM

Using cybernetics to replaced damage/non-functional/missing limbs isn't elective the same way as chopping off your arm for a stronger metal arm is. At some point even that will become socially acceptable. We're allready seeing trends for increased body modification, and if time has told us anything, it's that humans don't know when to stop.

Posted by: Faraday May 27 2011, 10:21 AM

QUOTE (TheOOB @ May 27 2011, 01:54 AM) *
and if time has told us anything, it's that humans don't know when to stop.

Plus la change.

Posted by: Xahn Borealis May 27 2011, 11:17 AM

QUOTE (Morg @ May 26 2011, 06:19 PM) *
Ok ok we still have a lot of work before the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism and Robot army will bring forth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity to humanity but one day, one day you'll see


FTFY

Posted by: Fatum May 27 2011, 01:42 PM

QUOTE (TheOOB @ May 27 2011, 12:54 PM) *
Using cybernetics to replaced damage/non-functional/missing limbs isn't elective the same way as chopping off your arm for a stronger metal arm is. At some point even that will become socially acceptable. We're allready seeing trends for increased body modification, and if time has told us anything, it's that humans don't know when to stop.
Hell, better-than-meat implants are at least functional. Extreme body modification is just showing off.
So I hope it'd be much more socially acceptable, actually.

Posted by: CanRay May 27 2011, 06:55 PM

Well, as someone who personally knows two cyborgs, their lives are better for it.

Of course, one wasn't supposed to get out of the hospital alive decades ago and the other was hit by a speeding dump truck full of sand...

Posted by: Xahn Borealis May 28 2011, 10:10 AM

QUOTE (CanRay @ May 27 2011, 07:55 PM) *
Well, as someone who personally knows two cyborgs, their lives are better for it.

Of course, one wasn't supposed to get out of the hospital alive decades ago and the other was hit by a speeding dump truck full of sand...


Do they fight crime?

Posted by: CanRay May 28 2011, 03:37 PM

QUOTE (Xahn Borealis @ May 28 2011, 05:10 AM) *
Do they fight crime?

No. That would involve picking fights with a massive, organized force in the city they live in that would have them disappear "into the night and fog".

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