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Posted by: Tashiro Jul 13 2011, 12:11 AM

One of the PCs in my game ran out of air in is diving suit, but I can't find any information on drowning or suffocation. I hit Arsenal and the 20E 4E book, but can't find them anywhere. Help? I need this for next time the PCs risk drowning.

Posted by: Yerameyahu Jul 13 2011, 12:23 AM

… They die? The rules are on SR4A p137. You didn't try searching for 'drown'?

Posted by: Udoshi Jul 13 2011, 01:57 AM

aren't underwater, deep sea, and other extreme environment threats(like space and deserts) covered in the back of Arsenal?

away from books at the moment, can't look it up for you, but I think they're in that book.

Posted by: Yerameyahu Jul 13 2011, 02:42 AM

Yes, Udoshi, but nothing about drowning. Cuz it's in the core book, p137.

Posted by: CanRay Jul 13 2011, 02:49 AM

The rules seem a bit off for me. 'Course, I grew up around Hosers, and we all know how well they can hold their breath.

Posted by: Yerameyahu Jul 13 2011, 03:02 AM

16 Turns seems pretty generous, plus 2-4 more based on your Swimming + Willpower.

Posted by: Elfenlied Jul 13 2011, 03:19 AM

Which is pretty much 1 minute.

Posted by: Dakka Dakka Jul 13 2011, 05:00 AM

And after that you get 1 box of stun damage each round. So you have another 27 s for everyone before something serious happens. Given the fact that you get this time regardless of circumstances I find it a pretty good approximation. Even though I can hold my breath almost 3 min under good circumstances, this time drops rapidly if I start after exertion or simply after exhaling.

Posted by: Yerameyahu Jul 13 2011, 05:03 AM

And most people have much shorter times, under the best circumstances. It's more than generous.

Do you think strangulation is faster, or is that just reflected in subdual combat?

Posted by: Tashiro Jul 13 2011, 06:25 AM

Sheesh. I looked everywhere except swimming. Thanks for the heads up. Hmm. 16 combat turns. I guess that will do.

Posted by: Irion Jul 13 2011, 07:13 AM

Strangulation is much faster.
About 3 secs. You directly cut the bloodflow to the brain. So after 3 secs you are black out/unconcious.
(The point is, it is quite hard to get the hold right.)

Posted by: Elfenlied Jul 13 2011, 07:54 AM

Well, I had the pleasure of bloodchoking someone recently. It felt like an eternity till they passed out, but I'm pretty sure I did not apply the choke properly.