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Posted by: StevenAngier Jul 26 2011, 11:00 AM

Hey there. Just a quick question.

"Levitate"'s description says that Objects flung by this spell are handled according to ranged combat rules, just like the spell "Fling".
Does that mean that one could fling objects with Levitate as well thus making Fling superflous. The way I read it it looks like objects flung by Levitate are much slower than those thrown with Fling but the fact that the spell description talks about "flinging" objects made me suspicious, especially since both do around the ame amount of damage.
What's your way to read the description?

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Jul 26 2011, 01:10 PM

Well, Levitate should be capable of "Flinging" much bigger objects than the Fling Spell is capable of, at the very least.

Posted by: StevenAngier Jul 26 2011, 01:33 PM

That for sure. But what about objects Fling would also be able to affect?

Posted by: Machiavelli Jul 26 2011, 02:18 PM

If i remember correctly, fling is an area-of-effect spell that catches multiple items and lets them fly around as some sort of distraction. Or was that another spell? I really can´t remember.

Posted by: StevenAngier Jul 26 2011, 02:37 PM

That's Poltergeist. Fling is about flinging a (Force kg heavy) object at a target.

Posted by: HunterHerne Jul 26 2011, 04:30 PM

And as far as I can tell, Fling also has the same drain modifier as Levitate, making it quite obsolete, especially where Fling is single use (Instant duration) and Levitate is sustained.

Posted by: Mardrax Jul 26 2011, 05:08 PM

Fling has a defined throwing strength. Levitate doesn't.

Fling depends on this strength to determine throwing weapon range. Levitate sets a movement speed. (Does this mean Levitate-flung items don't suffer range penalties?)

Assuming no overcasting and 3 hits on a casting test, Fling will get an aerodynamic grenade considerrably further than Levitate will. A thrown knife will generally fly further with Levitate.

Of course, Levitate can fling a motorcycle on the same number of hits.

Posted by: StevenAngier Jul 26 2011, 05:27 PM

Depends. If you want to get a live grenade at your target, Fling could get it there considerably faster than Levitate IF you can't fling objects with Levitate just as you can with the Fling spell. That's what gets me confused. Levitate's spell description talks about "flinging" objects rather than "having objects slam into others". That's what made me question if Levitate maybe could also "fling" Objects as Fling does.

Posted by: TheOOB Jul 26 2011, 08:12 PM

Levitation does "a number of boxes of Stun damage as decided by the gamemaster", whereas fling can be used to deal weapon damage.

Posted by: whatevs Jul 26 2011, 11:38 PM

The way i read it, levitate could reproduce fling's effects but you may want to confirm with your gm. Levitate is the bees knees btw. If you have room for only one more spell, take levitate.

Posted by: Traul Jul 27 2011, 12:20 AM

Levitate, Incompetent(Athletics, all of them) and Braggart. When there a physical obstacle to overcome, you start hovering around your buddies and ask them if they are not getting too tired, because they are starting to look all red and sweaty and you worry for them