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Posted by: scarius Aug 14 2011, 09:55 PM

So in an up coming run for my group I will be doing it at weapons expo '72, so apart from your normal weapons, what did you all think that I should include? I have a few ideas for some of them, eg: some "old" weapons like the preditor 1 ect, some random stuff that I have made up.

Posted by: CanRay Aug 14 2011, 10:07 PM

Depends on the market being aimed at.

A Weapon's Expo for Hunters is going to be quite different than a Weapon's Expo for the Military.

And a Weapon's Expo by Ares is going to be quite different than a Weapon's Expo from some Eastern European Gun Runner's Convention.

Posted by: Summerstorm Aug 14 2011, 10:12 PM

Lasers (Now with high-density, ultra-high tech battery packs). Not as reliable as an AK you say? Well.. can an AK recharge from NOTHING? Now we include a solar converter: Just unfold the only 20kg solar pannel package and charge up to 80 shots on a sunny day. (Only 28.000 per unit laser, and 2500 for the military solar panels, YAY)

The "Golden Silence" for the mercenary with style. This handcannon is mounted floating on the grip and shoots a 0.8 inch armor piercing round. It is the only weapon (roughly) in pistol size which can reliably shoot down a helicopter with one shot. (Gold, Platinum or Pearl grip as standard)

Are those "good" guns? Hell no... but fun as a publicity tool in a violent world.

Posted by: PeteThe1 Aug 14 2011, 10:19 PM

Some toys still in development and aren't entirely practical, but the corps bring to show off The Gun Of Tomorrow. Gauss weapons maybe, or the Zorg ZF-1

Small companies with an idea and glitchy prototype, looking for investors.

Non-lethal stuff.

Targeting systems and software.

Normal weapons but with special ammo.

Training companies.

Nano-manufacturers (the new AK can't be the only one in the world).

And of course Booth Babes.

Posted by: Fatum Aug 14 2011, 10:19 PM

Open Arsenal. Press Ctrl+F, type "Exotic Weapon", press Enter until you find stuff you like.

Posted by: CanRay Aug 14 2011, 10:32 PM

http://youtu.be/XvRdwT5F2Cg

http://youtu.be/gJOuQahDPao

Posted by: scarius Aug 14 2011, 10:56 PM

The idea is more of a come everybody and see all this new stuff, there is a inderpendant contractor area, mega corp area, a bit of an arms dealers area, seminar theater to show off some new things, a mage-tech area, pretty much everything.

It cost 1,000 per day for entry for 2,500 for a three day pass (it's running Friday, Saturday, Sunday) upon entry they are being give a light pistol converted to shot .30cal stick-n-shock rounds.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if they decided to do a "recon" on the Friday, the job on Saturday, and then a chill out Sunday.

They are doing a run to go and get a prototype plasma weapon

Also thanks for the ideas so far, keep them coming

Posted by: CanRay Aug 14 2011, 10:59 PM

Ah, the Rich NRA-Member Crowd!

Posted by: Method Aug 14 2011, 11:31 PM

You should pick up Gun Heaven (or Haven) if you haven't already. A whole collection of new guns your players haven't seen in the BBB or Arsenal.

Also, if you need ideas for the Military section or the theater, you can grab MilSpecTech and use some of the vehicles in there as demo pieces.

Posted by: HunterHerne Aug 14 2011, 11:50 PM

If he`s feeling really brave, he could look at the things in War!, too. Again, just trying to help, don`t want to start an argument about War!'s problems.

Posted by: CanRay Aug 15 2011, 12:06 AM

The "We actually improved the Kalashnikov design after a century-and-a-half" is worth a read...

Posted by: warrior_allanon Aug 15 2011, 12:20 AM

bad Can Ray, quoting Beverly Hills Cop 3, what i'm suprised is that you were able to get down the entire spiel

Posted by: CanRay Aug 15 2011, 12:24 AM

I have my ways.

Oh! Good suggestion for the Weapon's Expo: Double-Barreled Panther Assault Cannons!

Posted by: warrior_allanon Aug 15 2011, 12:27 AM

*face palms*

oh frag me side ways

Posted by: CanRay Aug 15 2011, 12:31 AM

You know it'd sell well with the Troll crowd in the Southern CAS.

"If dem Azzies t'ink dey can jus' walk over dis line ahn thake our land. Well..." *Cocks Double-Barreled Panther Assault Cannon* "Betsy's got sum werds fer 'em!"

EDIT: http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=4413.msg64015#msg64015

Posted by: suoq Aug 15 2011, 12:50 AM

"Charged Particles Mr. Muntz?"
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9jrct_deal-of-the-century-theatrical-trai_shortfilms

Posted by: PittsburghRPGA Aug 15 2011, 02:45 AM

The Uber-Rich NRA crowd. There was a gun show here in Pittsburgh at the Monroeville Expo Mart, and iirc, it's $20 to get in. Sure it's not a huge industry premiere kind of gun show, but at those prices, it's not for the average man.

Eric

Posted by: scarius Aug 15 2011, 07:18 AM

I went for the very expensive route so that I could have some crazy stuff there, also so that I could have some realsih threats inside.

Posted by: CanRay Aug 15 2011, 03:07 PM

Probably lots of (Actually legitimate) Middle Eastern types there.

I remember walking around the Mint one time, and my father getting quite pissed off that they were allowed to keep their blades while he had to give up his Zippo because "it was made of metal, and thus dangerous". (Luckily, he got it back.).

Before you ask, no, there was nothing flammable around for him to light except for his smokes. And it was a non-smoking building.

Posted by: HunterHerne Aug 15 2011, 03:18 PM

Has non-smoking ever actually stopped anyone? We have signs out hat tell people "No smoking within 3 meters of the building" and people stand right next to the doors and smoke.

Yes, I realize your example is about safety, but even so, there are some extremely smart individuals who don't care.

Posted by: CanRay Aug 15 2011, 03:21 PM

Try lighting up in a Government Building that has RCMP officers (And worse) running security and finding out just how fast that "No Smoking" sign is very, very serious.

Also, a weapon's expo would like be a non-smoking area.

Posted by: Daier Mune Aug 15 2011, 04:00 PM

Depending on how far along DEW development is in your game's timeline, there's about a hundred different ways of building a laser. Would be interesting to see a weapons expo where different companies were selling their own proprietary weapons tech. chemical lasers, free electron lasers, pulse energy projectiles, laser-induced plasma channeling, and proton beams are all fancy ways of doing the same thing: shooting something with a beam of (near)light speed heat.

Posted by: Fatum Aug 15 2011, 06:07 PM

My university reached the top of that logic. Each entrance to its many buildings is decorated with two factory-made signs (so they're permanent, you see). To the left of the door, "No smoking". To the right, "Please put the cigarette butts into the waste bins".

Posted by: CanRay Aug 16 2011, 01:23 AM

"This is the newest in Heavy Metal Instrumentation from Ares Arms. It's a Six-String Guitar with a built-in amplifier. Incorporated into the body is a stripped-down Ares Beta. While the magazine that's designed for the guitar is half the size of our regular model, the standard magazines also fit, as well as extended magazines and drum magazines with the standard magazine well modifications. For when your security isn't able to keep back the fans, your firepower certainly can, and the 12 gauge shotgun can be used to launch flares for additional pyrotechnics."

"I'll buy twelve."

Posted by: TheOOB Aug 16 2011, 09:11 AM

I had a new weapons release as part of a run before. Colt released the Colt Evolution, the next step in pistol technologies. It was a heavy pistol, with built in internal silencer, internal smartlink, and electronic fireing, was made with lightweight non-metal materials, and still had all it's mod slots open(It managed to get these released as ergonomic features in the UCAS and thus legal on public market). They also released a limited run of reproduction M1911's to hype the new gun.

Naturally stealing some pre-release guns made up for a run

Posted by: CanRay Aug 16 2011, 03:23 PM

Colt Ouroboros:

An update for the venerable Colt Asp model, the Ouroboros is a medium caliber revolver that can also use the lighter caliber version of the rounds it's chambered for. Extensively tested in every part of the Earth accessible, and in space, it has proven to be one of the most reliable swing-out cylinder designs ever created. Called "The Best Wheelgun Ever Made Since The Peacemaker" by Captain Paul Hardeski, Lone Star Security's current leader in arrests and convictions in ten cities that Lone Star provides service for. The Ouroboros is available in various calibers, finishes (Blued Steel is standard), and barrel lengths straight from the factory, along with a large selection of pistol grips (Including the new stock of vat-grown walnut wood DNA as advertised in the Fall 2072 edition of the "Firearms and Mercs" E-Zine). A number of aftermarket modifications that are available for the Colt Asp are also compatible with the Colt Ouroboros.

Colt Ouroboros:
Damage: 4P/5P
Mode: SA/SS
RC: -
Ammo: 6 (cy)
Availability: 4R
Cost: 200¥

> Yes, it's a Colt design, yes it was extensively tested, yes it's marketed out the wazoo to compete with the Taurus Multi-6. It was also the basis for over two dozen shadowruns to either destroy the design, steal it for Eastern European goverment factories, more to steal it back, five from various arms companies to destroy the files and kill the designers to keep it from market, and a few from Colt just to check their own security. It earns the name Ouroboros well, many 'Runner Teams ate their own tail trying to deal with this firearm.
> Truth

> For once, the conspiracy nutbar is right. Broken analog clocks and all that, I guess. The only jobs I handled (Yes, I did some) was putting it through it's paces under "Deniable Combat Situations", or Shadowruns if you prefer. A few suggestions for design changes were made, including infrared posts on the sights for those who see in that kind of vision to make for easier target acquisition in the dark. About the only place this revolver won't work is underwater. The design is more reliable and available (in North America at least) than the Taurus Multi-6, and it's styling allows it to fit in with a variety of outfits for those that are fashionable (The Matte Black goes well with a Tux or the infamous Little Black Dress, or can be sandblasted and not have a shine for combat situations.). The Steel Ouroboros is coming down the line as well, in solid stainless steel for those that are near high salt concentrations and have to worry about rust. Also good for constant concealed carry as sweat can cause a rusting issue at times.
> Money

> Do you work for Colt or something? You sold it better than their marketing shown above!
> Rick O'Shey

> I own stock in Colt, I will admit that. And the marketing above is just a blurb from a much larger spiel. But I got some test models through, um, back channels and tested it personally against the more refined production-model Taurus Multi-6. No comparison, I'm going with the Colt on the rare occasions I carry a revolver. Stock options don't help when you're dead.
> Money

> OK, I can't fault that kind of reasoning.
> Rick O'Shey

Posted by: Ascalaphus Aug 16 2011, 04:12 PM

Nicely written

Posted by: CanRay Aug 16 2011, 04:32 PM

I get bored.

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Aug 16 2011, 04:57 PM

HEH...

Posted by: suoq Aug 16 2011, 05:28 PM

Things that scream to go into a gun show mod:
The Mossberg Chainsaw Shotgun: http://gunsforsale.com/ghg/2011/01/18/mossberg-chainsaw/
The ACE tactical bottle opener: http://www.popularairsoft.com/images/ace-rail-hook-sling-mounttactical-bottle-opener
The Galil wire cutters and bottle opener bipod.
9mm Belgian 18-shot double-barrelled revolver: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30169195@N00/2327194801/ & http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6499/gunshow2003pinfireresizny6.jpg and
Troll bellygun: http://www.mycity-military.com/imgs/113167_65512776_Triple%20MiniGun%20obavezno%20postaviti.jpg

Posted by: ZeroPoint Aug 16 2011, 06:30 PM

I posted this a long time ago. Designed to fall in the category as PeteThe1 said "Some toys still in development and aren't entirely practical, but the corps bring to show off The Gun Of Tomorrow"

http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=32516&view=findpost&p=998709