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Posted by: Machiavelli Sep 16 2011, 11:06 AM

I thought about playing a pixie as my next char, but the GM declines the use of "shapechange" into a human form. Do you know equivalent solutions or do you have some proper arguments that i could use to convince him anyway?

Posted by: Irion Sep 16 2011, 11:14 AM

If your GM is not an idiot, you can't convince him, because shapechanging into a human is so cheesy I can smell it through the internet. (I guess to bribe him is still an option)

Physical Mask is one option for social encounters.
You just can't hold anything...

Anyway, I do not see much of a problems beening a pixie. (Sure you are small, but you can fly. Magical fingers or leviate might come in handy.)

Posted by: Aerospider Sep 16 2011, 11:22 AM

If using Shapechange to become human (sized, presumably) is too 'cheesey', why not design a spell that does only that? The limitation would counterbalance the utility.

Posted by: Irion Sep 16 2011, 11:29 AM

@Aerospider
This spell would still be a "increase any physica attribute by 1 per net hit without the force=attribute limitation".
If you would use a shapchange human spell which just turns you into a human form, attributes are kept from your original form, it would be good, but I guess ok.

Posted by: Minchandre Sep 16 2011, 12:00 PM

I don't understand why your pixie would need to shapechange into a human, and frankly I agree with your GM if that's what you want - it smells like you just want the attribute bonuses

Posted by: Elfenlied Sep 16 2011, 12:15 PM

Planning in case your Black mage gets whacked again?

Anyway, here's my suggestion: Get a roughly human-shaped drone. Otomo would be perfect, but a manservant will do on a budget. Ride the drone inside a special compartment made for you. Put a physical mask over it. Voila, you appear human and can touch/operate things.

As for Shapechange, there's a way that might work with your DM: Get rid of the attribute bonuses.

Posted by: Machiavelli Sep 16 2011, 12:24 PM

1) Pixies are quite seldom. Therefore you would cause a lot of attention ("ah, the runner team with the pixie? yeah, they ran that way")
2) Pixies have low body and strenght
3) you need to buy adjusted gear and clothing
4) possible racial bias

I could argue, that you lose all metatype-specific abilities (that should also include the concealment-power).

Posted by: Elfenlied Sep 16 2011, 12:45 PM

Physical Mask should do. Also, you've got concealment. Remember that you don't get a cumulative -2 for that, unlike with spells.



Doesn't matter much if you're a permanently concealed mage, right? Consider getting a drone for some personal armor.



Go mage. Foci need not be adjusted. Lack of armor sucks, but you've got a potential Reaction 12 and Edge 7 (8 with Lucky), so just avoid getting hit or use the armor spell.



With great racial power comes great racial bias

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Sep 16 2011, 01:22 PM

Why? Design it so it is not like that. Done.

Posted by: HunterHerne Sep 16 2011, 01:28 PM

Or, you can try to convince the GM to enforce maximums,, augmented at least (if not restrict it to natural max)

Posted by: Paul Sep 16 2011, 01:30 PM

If I were your GM these are some, but not all of the questions I'd ask:

• Why? Why is a Pixie in the sprawl?
• Why would it associate with a group of runners in the first place?
• What is it's status it's own community? Do they accept his or her role as is?
• Would the layers realistically accept you? if not, how then do you plan on hiding your true nature? What about contacts etc...?

Basically I'd prep you for being a possible lab experiment or novelty item until you prove yourself, In Game. I'd definitely, as a GM, consider hanging some flaws on you-nothing absurd but just something to reflect your unique place in the Shadows.

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Sep 16 2011, 01:36 PM

We use a customized Critter Spell (Metahuman). Net hits are distributable amongst the Physical Attributes. Get 3 net hits, you get to distribute 3 points of Attributes. Sort of in the Middle between no boosts and all nets hits to all attributes. Was a nice compromise. Obviously, if you want to assume the forms of all 5 (Elf, Dwarf, Human, Orc and Troll), you would need all five variations of the spells. We also enforce Attribute Maximums. You would also need a Minimum Body of 3 to assume the shapes of all 5 Metahumans (Trolls have an Attribute Minimum 5 for Body after all), as you must still be within 2 Body to assume the Form.

Posted by: Machiavelli Sep 17 2011, 10:10 AM

My GM doesn´t care about the additional attributes, he declines the use of the spell because a pixie is quite fragile and flashy, if he changes into a human he has no disadvantages left.

Posted by: Ascalaphus Sep 17 2011, 10:44 AM

About the low Strength and Body: suck it up. That's what you get for playing a pixie - that's why you get insane boosts to other Attributes.

About the social implications: if you propose a spell that gives you human form with human racial maximums, but no increases to your normal attributes, then I don't think your GM is going to object. But Physical Mask might be more useful.

Posted by: Machiavelli Sep 17 2011, 12:05 PM

Doesn´t you need at least roughly the same size so that physical mask is working properly?

Posted by: Ascalaphus Sep 17 2011, 12:09 PM

Feh, get a custom version then. That's really a triviality.

Posted by: KarmaInferno Sep 17 2011, 02:52 PM

Have the pixie pilot a "human suit" anthroform vehicle. Cast via Mage Sight Goggles.






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Posted by: Traul Sep 17 2011, 03:35 PM

Or have the troll carry you in a sport bag.

Posted by: Tanegar Sep 17 2011, 03:38 PM

That might get pretty uncomfortable, especially for a winged creature. I think the anthroform drone plus pixie-scale rigger cocoon works better.

Posted by: CanRay Sep 17 2011, 03:40 PM

Especially if the troll hasn't taken the socks out from the last time he was at the gym.

Posted by: Udoshi Sep 18 2011, 02:46 AM

+1 on the human-suit. Its much classier than a human-with-better-stats. (If I were doing this, thogh, I'd totally abuse the pixie-technomancer loophole and make a deadalus techno-pixie who just wants to see what its like to be human.)

If you want at transforming critter with good stats, just play an Eagle shifter.

Posted by: KarmaInferno Sep 18 2011, 04:02 AM

What pixie-TM loophole?

Pixies have a Magic attribute. Nothing that has a Magic attribute can ever access Resonance. Even if they later lose the Magic point.



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Posted by: Udoshi Sep 18 2011, 05:09 AM

I seem to recall there was a loophole involving burnt-out pixies that's been shown about a few times on dumpshock.

Something about having 0 magic opening you up to taking resonance qualities, because you don't have any magic, and the specific restriction clause refences qualities that you don't have.

Posted by: CanRay Sep 18 2011, 05:11 AM

IIRC, Pixies with no magic are called "Dead". Which means they disappear pretty soon.

Posted by: Udoshi Sep 18 2011, 05:40 AM

'Fraid not, Canray.

Dead pixies DO vanish, but no magic pixies don't.

burnt out pixies lose vanishing anyway (RC 84: If a sapient critter’s Magic attribute goes to 0, it loses the use of all its powers except Sapience, Natural Weapons, and Armor, if any. Also same page: Pixie Powers: Concealment (Self Only), Enhanced Senses (Astral Perception), Sapience)

Maybe it worked that way in a previous edition.

Posted by: CanRay Sep 18 2011, 05:45 AM

Or I'm overtired and should check things before I post.

Posted by: The Jopp Sep 18 2011, 10:05 PM

Why not just be invisible?

Custom Chameleon Coated Armor (Second skin line for the Sexy Pixie Look)
Magic rating 6.

Visual detection modifier -10D6

Posted by: Mardrax Sep 18 2011, 10:39 PM

Don't forget to stack Improved Invisibility on top. And proper Infiltration skill.

Posted by: Yerameyahu Sep 18 2011, 10:50 PM

If Phys Mask for whatever reason is no good, use Trid Phantasm. You have lots of options, though they are *appropriately* inconvenient.

Posted by: The Jopp Sep 19 2011, 07:24 PM

Well, I think the astral visibility of an active spell kinda removes the effect of the concealment power.

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Sep 19 2011, 07:30 PM

Unless you have Enhanced Masking Metamagic.

Posted by: Stahlseele Sep 19 2011, 07:34 PM

Nobody mentioned the Pixie-Puncher yet? O.o
Sons, i am disappoint . .

Posted by: The Jopp Sep 20 2011, 07:27 AM

You mean the invisible tiny flying punch of death?

Posted by: Elfenlied Sep 20 2011, 07:48 AM

This will just get another option banned at Mac's table

Posted by: The Jopp Sep 20 2011, 12:11 PM

What is the kinetic energy of a pixie?

Lets say that we shrink down a normal weight human from 180 centimeters and 90 kilos of weight to 1/4 of that to simulate the size of a pixie.

22,5 Kilograms and 45cm tall.

Pixies can 'run' while in flight at 50 meters per turn. That's 16,7 meters per second. Kilometers per hour becomes (16,7*60) *60 which becomes 60,12 kilometers per hour.

What's the kinetic energy of that?

Posted by: Traul Sep 20 2011, 12:26 PM

It doesn't work like that: weight depends on volume, which is size^3. Divide size by 4, divide weight by 64. Realistically, it should even be less than that: lighter animals tend to have a slender build since their bones have less weight to support.

Posted by: trollock Sep 20 2011, 12:53 PM

Let's just say that if pidgeon hits the wall at full speed it's not gonna recover form that colision and same goes for pixie.

Posted by: Machiavelli Sep 20 2011, 02:52 PM

This leads me to another question. What is an average attribute for a being with maximum body and strenght of 3?. I mean 1 is minimum, 2 would be average, 3 a tiny version of arnold schwarzenegger in conan the destoyer? I know the game mechanics are not build for pixies, but an interesting question anyway. Besides the look at rating 3 attributes, what about the weight? Are there any official sources? Can a body 3, strenght 3 pixie sit on the shoulder of an troll or big ork without causing problems to the carrier? I think about masking as an emotitoy or pet and 50cm is small but not THAT small.

Posted by: CanRay Sep 20 2011, 02:59 PM

African or European?

Posted by: Elfenlied Sep 20 2011, 03:08 PM

Why do I suddenly see someone falling down a chasm near a bridge?

Posted by: Traul Sep 20 2011, 03:26 PM

50cm is about the size of a newborn. Babies are usually between 3 and 4 kg but they are fat. 3kg for a strong pixie sounds about right.

Posted by: Miri Sep 20 2011, 03:35 PM

I'd love to see the security footage of a cybered up troll running full pelt down a hall.. only to have its feet run out from under him as a Adept Pixie specializing in wrestling clotheslines it. Audio is a must so we can hear the Pixie taunting the troll.

Posted by: Stalag Sep 20 2011, 04:15 PM

I jsut got the mental image of a little pixie hovering right in front of his face squeeking out "SAY MY NAME BI**H!"

Posted by: Stalag Sep 20 2011, 04:17 PM

So, other than simply to be a cheese-ball character with human physical stats and pixie non-physical stats, what exactly is your reasoning for this ability?

Posted by: Irion Sep 20 2011, 04:18 PM

Pixies should only have 4+body/2 boxes of health.

Posted by: Yerameyahu Sep 20 2011, 04:22 PM

Stalag, presumably it's to get pixie stats without *looking* like a pixie.

Posted by: Stalag Sep 20 2011, 04:28 PM

*shakes head in obvious dismay*

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Sep 20 2011, 04:50 PM

Because, you know, No one would want to play a disadvantaged character. Oh, The Horror.

Posted by: Miri Sep 20 2011, 04:56 PM

Or... "IVE GOT YOU FOR THREEEEE MINUTES!!"

Posted by: Elfenlied Sep 20 2011, 04:58 PM

Well, if you would allow me to play a Vampire/Nosferatu in your game without the racial prejudice, and exchanging Allergy(Sunlight) to Glamour, I'd be almost tempted to play it. Almost.

Posted by: Miri Sep 20 2011, 05:00 PM

That depends.. if you say he sparkles when he is out in the sunlight I might just have to drop a nuke on whatever city he is in. Only way to be sure you know?

Posted by: Stahlseele Sep 20 2011, 05:07 PM

I usually only play trolls . .

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Sep 20 2011, 05:18 PM

I'm Sorry.............

Posted by: Stahlseele Sep 20 2011, 06:12 PM

it's great fun to be able to defend a stupid decision with being in character sometimes ^^

Posted by: Elfenlied Sep 20 2011, 06:14 PM

Sounds like something our Paladin player would say in D&D...

Posted by: Stahlseele Sep 20 2011, 06:20 PM

Kill him! kill him with fire!
And the character too!

Posted by: Stalag Sep 20 2011, 06:26 PM

I was thinking something along the same lines

Posted by: Machiavelli Sep 20 2011, 06:28 PM

Guys, lend me a hand. I quickly need to know if the small size of a pixie limits the class of weapons he can use. Is it like in the games that cause cancer?^^

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Sep 20 2011, 06:29 PM

If it isn't (And It isn't, as far as I can tell), It damn well should be.

Posted by: Machiavelli Sep 20 2011, 06:31 PM

Yeah, Pixie Heavy Weapons Guy....i am coming. ^^

Posted by: Stalag Sep 20 2011, 06:31 PM

Given that you're only 45cm tall yes, I'd say your choice of weapons would be extremely limited. But when you can throw Force 7 lightning bolts does it really matter?

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Sep 20 2011, 06:44 PM

We really do not need to know all about your perverse sexual preferences you know...

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Sep 20 2011, 06:45 PM

I would agree with this. Unfortunately, tehre is a vocal minority that would insist that since it is not restricted explicitely, it is allowable.

Posted by: Stahlseele Sep 20 2011, 06:56 PM

If a Pixie can have Heavy Weapons, a Troll can have Vehicle class weapons. Or, gods forbid, Capital Class weapons.
http://lgliang.deviantart.com/art/Dakka-Lad-178511060

Posted by: Mardrax Sep 20 2011, 06:56 PM

I'd allow for size-modified gear. It'd also have to be tremendously expensive compared to the original, and probably imported from Tir Na Nog or possibly France.

Posted by: Irion Sep 20 2011, 07:09 PM

Well, whats about using collision rules because of recoil?

Posted by: Elfenlied Sep 20 2011, 07:16 PM

By RAW, you can even use a Gauss rifle. You won't even need metahuman customization, because you're not a troll or dwarf.

Posted by: Stalag Sep 20 2011, 07:48 PM

True. Though I generally don't see a reason for my caster characters to carry a gun regardless of stature. True, it's a complex action to toss a combat spell where it's only a simple action to get off a shot, but if I'm a true mage and the group is in a position where I need to draw a gun then we're probably already dead. Besides, it wastes Karma/BP raising a skill that could be better spent elsewhere (for you min/maxers) and I really don't think most mages would even bother learning to use a gun (for the character perspective)... they got magic after all!

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Sep 20 2011, 07:51 PM

Yep... Capital Class for the Win...

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Sep 20 2011, 07:52 PM

It is always nice to have the option, though. When you are in a Background count, Drain can become a burden. Always nice to have a drainless option for combat.

Posted by: Seth Sep 20 2011, 07:58 PM

I have to admit that I think Pixies are the ultimate Minimaxer tool. As far as I can see they are better than other races at almost everything.

As an example I can create almost any character in DK's marvelous spreadsheet, change the race to pixie and typically get 50+ BPs back to spend on more goodness. (I am of course limited to a body of 2, the lack of strength just isn't an issue). I usually do this whenever I create a character, sigh, and go back to non munchkin version.

I do however like the idea of pixies in a game, but I want them to be very different to humans. A a consequence, when GMing Pixies I have introduced the following rule:

Pixies are walking Telesma on the hoof. If you harvest the blood, hair, skin etc from a pixie you can gather enough stuff to sell for around 10,000 nuyen a week. Given that Pixies have mostly no rights it's even legal to keep such a pixie. This is enough money to keep a team of 4 in a luxury lifestyle for life...

Back to the original question: Shapechange is another of the routes to power as a mage. It has a major disadvantage that makes up for it's awesome power: you cannot easily wear armor while shape shifted. So although you can get huge attribute buffs, you are very vulnerable to bullets. IMHO if you take away that disadvantage you make it the most powerful spell in the game. For example the "increase attribute" spells increase one attribute, this increases 4. As a GM I would just say no. Physical Mask is the spell of choice for the pixie that wants to pretend to be human.

Posted by: LostProxy Sep 20 2011, 07:58 PM

Plus when you're in a fight with a dedicated counter speller on the other side being able to shoot is very important. I've seen our team mage shut down when hit for hit he was being countered again and again. Or just one decently powerful spirit with mana static (at least I think that's the spell.)

Posted by: Mardrax Sep 20 2011, 08:07 PM

Selling off a dragon could probably buy you, your crew and their families a Luxury lifestyle.

Similar to a dragon, I'd like to see anyone try capturing a PC Pixie. Especially with some karma behind him.

Posted by: Elfenlied Sep 20 2011, 08:24 PM

That reminds me of the one time where one of my players jokingly suggested selling their team mage (a vampire). The mage player, in a laconic voice, asks him: "You sure you want to take on a 6th grade initiate houngan for a bounty of 6k ?"

Well, that shut him up.

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Sep 20 2011, 08:42 PM

Everyone has to sleep sometime, even a Pixie (or a 6th Grade Initiate Houngon Vampire... Besides, a 6th Grader is not that much of a challenge anyways. I mean really, how much does a kid know?).

Posted by: Traul Sep 20 2011, 08:45 PM

There is no spell for that?

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Sep 20 2011, 08:46 PM

Eventually, you will succumb.

Posted by: Stahlseele Sep 20 2011, 08:50 PM

Well, the houngan maybe.
But he is a houngan for a reason.
Loa, ride me like a Horse tonight.
Keep my body safe, while i'm sleeping.
Retaliate with lethal force if neccessary.

Posted by: Irion Sep 20 2011, 09:02 PM

Well, you probably will loose your sanity at some point...


Possessed or not. This only means you have to shoot him in the head with a big gun...
Well, I guess a pixie could be kind of hard to kill, because those little buggers my sleep in strange places.

Posted by: Stalag Sep 20 2011, 09:13 PM

True, in the case of a counter-speller you can't get past then the caster plays the support role instead (nuke is the least of a mages functions).

The idea of a spirit using mana static is like a troll ripping his own arm off to beat you with it.

I admit there might be a time when it would be nice to have a backup option in a fight but those instances should be rare or else what's the point?

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Sep 20 2011, 09:23 PM

Why should they be rare, though? I see it as business as usual in a lot of instances. If your Mage is not being challenged, then what is the point?
Besides, Counter-spell works against sustained spells too, you know. Sucks to have that levitate dispelled out from underneath you when you are 30 stories up; or have the mage go down from gunfire while he is sustaining it.

Posted by: Stalag Sep 20 2011, 09:43 PM

There's "challenged" and then there's "nullified" - forcing your mage to stop using magic and pick up a gun isn't challenging him, it's just turning him into a second or third rate gun-bunny. You wouldn't take your gun-bunny's guns away and try and force them to cast spells would you?

Challenging him would be making him find creative ways to use his spells in a different way.

And that's not to say mages shouldn't be multi-functional... indeed even somewhat specialized they are pretty much naturally multi-functional. Sure, they should have some skills to use if the situation doesn't call for magic... it's always good to be able to fill in the gaps.

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Sep 20 2011, 09:56 PM

Which is the point. You do not always need magic, and a Gun incurs absolutely no Drain. Sometimes that is preferrable. When I play a Mage, I tend to have a decent gun skill. Maybe not "Professional Rating," but at least the ability to be competant with the gun. Skill 2, Specialization and Smartlink is 6 Dice, so a Mage is probably throwing between 9-10 dice prior to any spells being cast, or Tacnets being added. Not too shabby in my opinion.

As for whether that is good or not, that depends upon the table. The mage I currently play is throwing 10 Dice for Guns, 11 Dice for Manipulation Spells (13 for Ritual Spellcast Manipulation Spells), and 7 Dice for non-Manipulation Spells. That sucks if you are at a powergaming table. But it is pretty sufficient for the things that I tend to use my magic for. *shrug*

Posted by: Mardrax Sep 20 2011, 09:59 PM

Carrying a gun around and toting armour is also a nice way to fould the renowned tactic of "geek the mage first."

Posted by: CanRay Sep 21 2011, 12:09 AM

I put it to one demo group I was running for: "In Shadowrun, Magicians aren't necessarily squishy. Some of them are Trolls and a whole lot bigger and tougher than you. And can kill you with their brains."

Posted by: Irion Sep 21 2011, 08:22 AM

Well, I guess it depends on what the opposition is. Your mage will be firering from cover, I guess, -1.
The opposition will have something between partial and good cover (-2 to -4), now we need also to look at visibility modifiers, here it is easy to get another -1.
So you end up with around -5 probably.
You still need one net hit. With 10 dice this means the reaction of your traget should not be too high...
(Well, using single shot and short burst afterwards is going to increase your chances...)

But still begs the question if it is not a better idea to stay in full cover, counterspell and be ready to help stabilizing somebody who got hit bad/drag him or her behind cover etc.

But I guess it depends on the opposition. If you are shooting your way through a horde of mooks with no dicepool it is the better option, I guess.

Posted by: Elfenlied Sep 21 2011, 08:37 AM

In case it wasn't clear, I meant it as "initiated 6 times".

Point is, unless you arbitrarily increase the bounty on a character's head, it's not worth going after them. Fighting an initiate mage for 6000? I wouldn't even do that if the character in question was just a normal human.

As for the whole "you take them unawares" stuff:
a) you need to know their true nature first. A magically disguised pixie won't be identified as a pixie by just everyone.
b) you need to find out where they sleep, if you wish to take them down sleeping. And get past the security of their lifestyle.
c) "detect hostile intent, extended" means that you won't take them unawares while blending into the crowd.

So, unless it's something personal, or the pay is dramatically increased, you're basically performing underpaid wetwork.

Posted by: The Jopp Sep 21 2011, 09:17 AM

I would allow 'heavy' weapons for pixies but as one said, when you're 45 centimeters tall weapon options are kinda limited.

Pistol: SMG sized (size varies from hold-out to heavy)
SMG: Rifle
Shotgun/Rifle/A-Rifle/sniper Rifle: Shoulder mounted or Tripod
LMG/MG: Tripod
Larger: N/A

Shoulder mounted weapons have X2 uncompensated recoil modifier unless braced.

So, can i have my 45 centimeter tall Space Marine with wings and a shoulder carried laser cannon now.

Posted by: KarmaInferno Sep 21 2011, 01:58 PM

Good rule of thumb: Any given weapon is four times larger for a pixie.

Pixies are on average 18 inches high (45 cm), which is one quarter or so of a human.

A handgun is normally say six inches in length along the barrel. To a pixie it is the equivalent of two feet long, about the size of an SMG or very short carbine.



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Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Sep 21 2011, 02:33 PM

Yes, I know Elfenlied, I got that. It was just funnier the other way.



True... Can't argue those points...

Posted by: Seth Sep 21 2011, 03:27 PM

I can argue with these points quite easy: Shadowrun has a basic premise that anyone can be captured/killed easily if its worth their while. This is reflected both in fluff and crunch. The point of the disadvantage as I proposed it was to make it more worth peoples while for a pixie, than for a human, to counterbalance the approximately (underestimated) 50 bp advantage for being a Pixe.

Let us all remember that shadowrun has a large variance on die.

• If you are running Physical Mask to avoid being spotted as a pixie then you need to maintain a high force spell. If you have a low force spell, it will be seen through quite easily. Maintaining a high force spell is hard: either you have a very very expensive foci, or a bound spirit which you are torturing to death, or you are maintaining it yourself (-2 to all actions).
• You don't know how well you have cast the spell, so you don't know how many successes you have. Given the large variance you will occasionally roll only 1 or 2 successes.
• Detect hostile intent needs to be a high force spell to actually work reliably all the time: see the above comments
• Even masking is an opposed die roll. Average die don't matter: given the variance on the die, you will be spotted if you interact with a lot of people.

Basically if your pixie is paranoid, hiding all the time, avoiding most human contact, then they can have their security. If they wander around and interact with people, given shadowrun die variance, they will be spotted.

Posted by: Elfenlied Sep 21 2011, 03:43 PM

I agree with you, especially with the bolded part. Since we don't have actual RAW bounty values for pixies, I'm going to assume that it's somewhere in the same range as for the infected. And at those rates, I do not consider it "worth my while" to go out of my way to hunt those critters, especially with their high percentage of mages.

With your houserule, however, one of my characters might actually give it a shot if they had some hints about the whereabouts of a NPC Pixie. If I were DMing for a group with said houserule, and one of the players was playing a Pixie, I would exclude them (the other players) from that rule, since it would lead to unnecessary amounts of backstabbing and bad blood among the players.

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Sep 21 2011, 04:04 PM

Indeed... My reluctance to hunt said creatures is that is is not really "Worth My While" to do so. *Shrug*
Could it be made to be worth my while? Almost certainly, but the pay should be better than a few thousand nuyen.

Posted by: Seth Sep 21 2011, 04:20 PM

Yes.

Mostly it was just a way to encourage Pixies to be secretive and hidden. Metahumans have many fewer bps but can safely interact with the rest of the world

Posted by: Manunancy Sep 21 2011, 04:33 PM

which also means that asuming they're built about human lines of height/width ratios and density they're 1/64th of the weight - a lot of firearms will end up being heavier than the pixie trying to handle them.... Recoil compensation is an absolute necessity for pixie-adapted guns, unles you want them to double up as propulsion systems.

Posted by: Stalag Sep 22 2011, 01:49 AM

The entertianment potential of that would almost be worth it

Posted by: Miri Sep 22 2011, 02:30 AM

Time for an enterprising armorer to work up some gyrojet guns

Posted by: KarmaInferno Sep 22 2011, 02:36 AM

I have brought up the incident before where my pixie character attempted to fire a full size Predator pistol, and critically glitched.

The cartoon trope of a pixie shaped hole in the drywall behind her comes to mind.

In hindsight, making the attempt with two dice was probably a mistake.




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