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Posted by: Paul Nov 12 2011, 09:39 PM

So we know Chrysler and Nissan merged. So where do you think the rest went? Fiat? GM? Ford? Dodge? Toyota?anything not mentioned. Some is covered in various books-so help me sort out what's where folks and speculate about the fates of the rest!

Posted by: EKBT81 Nov 12 2011, 10:59 PM

Going back to the Rigger 3 book, Ares bought out GM in 2059. Ford is still independent and is stated to have several European car makers as subsidiaries through the European Motor Company: Opel, Peugeot, Citroën, Skoda, Jaguar, Range Rover. (Note: IMO Opel as a Ford subsidiary doesn't make much sense. Opel has been a subsidiary of GM since 1929 and is pretty much GM's only presence in the European market.) Rigger 3 also lists Mazda and Kia as Ford brands. Daimler-Benz is a subsidiary of C-N. C-N also took over Toyota in 2060.

According to SoE Renault and FIAT merged and are one of the big Euro-AAs.

All of that is 3rd ed. information. IIRC one of the 4th ed. books stated that SK acquired Volkswagen.

Posted by: Seriously Mike Nov 13 2011, 12:24 PM

Hmh, I thought that S-K owns Daimler-Benz too.

Posted by: Paul Nov 13 2011, 03:48 PM

See some of that I knew but after 20 plus years of this game sometimes the information is jumbled around! I'll have some time later tomorrow to start organizing this information! Thanks. So what else folks? Come on speculate! Don't be afraid! Make an ad for Augmented Reality!

Posted by: CanRay Nov 13 2011, 09:13 PM

So, who owns AMC?

Posted by: Stingray Nov 13 2011, 09:19 PM

QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 13 2011, 11:13 PM)

So, who owns AMC?

Posted by: stevebugge Nov 15 2011, 11:45 PM

QUOTE (CanRay @ Nov 13 2011, 01:13 PM)

So, who owns AMC?

Posted by: Paul Nov 15 2011, 11:46 PM

7000 posters and we get what? 5 replies. C'mon where's the fabled legions of Dumpshock?

Posted by: stevebugge Nov 15 2011, 11:48 PM

QUOTE (Paul @ Nov 15 2011, 03:46 PM)

Posted by: Faraday Nov 16 2011, 12:19 AM

QUOTE (stevebugge @ Nov 15 2011, 03:48 PM)

Posted by: Nath Nov 16 2011, 07:40 PM

There are not som many car companies around, and Rigger 3 and a few other books already gave the rundown.

Ares Macrotechnology owns General Motors, with GMC, Buick, Cadillac, Pontiac brands (Corporate Download, Rigger 3)
Chrysler-Nissan owns Daimler, Chrysler, Nissan, Toyota (Rigger 3, Shadows of Asia)
Eastern Tiger Corporation owns Hyundai (Shadows of Asia)
Ford owns DAF, Jaguar, Kia, Lancia, Mazda, Opel, Peugeot-Citroën, Ranger Rover, Skoda (Germany SB, Rigger 3)
Renault-Fiat owns Dacia, Ferrari, Fiat, Renault (Shadows of Europe)
Saeder-Krupp owns BMW, Volkswagen (Corporate Download, Rigger 3, Corporate Guide)
Wuxing owns SsangYong, renamed ESSY (Corporate Guide)
Honda, Mitsubishi, Saab remain independents (Rigger 3, Shadows of Europe)

The largest RL car companies whose fate is not yet known are Suzuki, AvtoVAZ (Lada) and Chinese and Indian companies you never heard off (though, IRL, Renault already owns 25% of AvtoVAZ).

Posted by: Paul Nov 16 2011, 07:48 PM

Thanks!

Posted by: CanRay Nov 16 2011, 10:05 PM

And Ford may, or may not, be owned by offshore accounts. (One of the Rigger books.).

Posted by: Seriously Mike Nov 17 2011, 08:01 AM

QUOTE (Nath @ Nov 16 2011, 08:40 PM)

Posted by: Snow_Fox Nov 17 2011, 02:27 PM

Shadow Talk in the original Riggers BB said that Ford was owned out of the Carib league. I think it was the entry for the Ford Americar, my copy wasl ost recently.

Posted by: Paul Nov 17 2011, 02:38 PM

I have mine on the shelf, I'll see if I can find that and come back to this thread.

Posted by: stevebugge Nov 17 2011, 07:13 PM

QUOTE (Seriously Mike @ Nov 17 2011, 12:01 AM)