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Dumpshock Forums _ Shadowrun _ Tough as Nails Dick
Posted by: Gamble Aug 13 2013, 01:21 AM
So...with Shadowrun Returns its cause some nostalgia and the want to play SR again. Only problem is that its been awhile. My character would be a toothpick chewing, hard drinking detective that still uses a revolver and wears a trench and fedora. I know: stereotypical.
Questions are: do I go Orc or Human? Want to make him able to withstand redonkulous amounts of pain so a pain editor possibly but I'm not sure what else. Thoughts? Advice? Comments?
Posted by: T2-Keks Aug 13 2013, 08:20 AM
Dwarf? Body+Willpower=take much pain.
I like these sterotypical detectves 
A buddy plays the Ork investigator from the sr3 core book and it is hilarious when he starks to mumble stories of his passed marriages!
Posted by: ElFenrir Aug 13 2013, 08:32 AM
Heh, I made an Archetype Dwarf Detective http://azaael.wordpress.com/2013/08/06/sr5-archetype-detective/ if you're curious how the idea I tinkered with turned out. I also missed the archetype so I decided to whip one together under SR5 rules.
Posted by: Dancer Aug 13 2013, 08:44 AM
4E or 5E?
I say orc for bonus tough and bonus ugly, both of which are important. Plus shorter lifespan so you can be 'getting too old for this' sooner.
Posted by: phlapjack77 Aug 13 2013, 09:32 AM
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120709021305/batman/images/0/04/BTAS_Harvey_Bullock.png would be a perfect image to use, ork or human.
Posted by: Umidori Aug 13 2013, 10:59 AM
Are you kidding me? Bullock is clearly a http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h50/StarwindPhoto/TrollyBullock.png.
~Umi
Posted by: Stahlseele Aug 13 2013, 11:17 AM
Marv from Sin City
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marv_(Sin_City)
Could be anything from Ork with Human Looking to Giant.
Posted by: Gamble Aug 13 2013, 12:45 PM
This will be for a 4E game and I'm siding towards orc though I could be persuaded otherwise. And yeah if you could toss up your dwarf detective or anybody toss up what they've come up with, itd be appreciated.
Especially cyber combos etc.
Posted by: phlapjack77 Aug 13 2013, 01:55 PM
~Umi
You done got me with that click. Well played sir
Posted by: DrZaius Aug 13 2013, 02:21 PM
I briefly played in an Ork investigator in a PbP here on Dumpshock. If I recall correctly, he managed to get himself stuck on the top floor of an office building in Caracas, and managed to escape by shooting out a window and riding a spirit to the ground.
Stephen Jacobs, Ork Mage
Character Sheet
)Posted by: Sendaz Aug 13 2013, 06:10 PM
That is known as taking the Elevate-Air
Posted by: Gamble Aug 14 2013, 02:29 AM
And to give everyone more of an idea of the character: think Bruce Willis is Die Hard. Smart ass, not the biggest, not the fastest and gets his butt kicked but comes out on top using his head. So...probably not thinking a high level of wires or anything but something basic...cause payoffs aren't huge but just enough so that he has something to deal with the uber chrome kiddies.
Posted by: quentra Aug 14 2013, 03:43 AM
That's how my PI runs - hell, even in 4th he was using fucking boosted reflexes. He once almost got his arse handed to him by a pair of rednecks with shotguns, and another time by a swarm of fucking devil rats. FUCKING DEVIL RATS. Yet, he always had a mostly safe-ish plan that worked, shittons of connections every-damn-where, and could charm the Edge out of a free spirit. (Mostly.)
He won because he was smart, did his research, and was a scary motherfucker if you really pissed him off - but he didn't take runs, he took cases, and that usually didn't pay too well. (Bad habit of waiving the fees for SINless clients.)
Posted by: vladski Aug 14 2013, 03:44 AM
Derek Montgomery, PI
Sort of the Jim Rockford of Shadowrun.. maybe with a dash of Thomas Magnum.
Speaking of which, did anyone ever try to stat him out?
He had maybe slightly above average attributes, good to really good skills, and contacts and edge out the wazoo.
Okay, now I am really wanting to stat out Dirk.
Nigel, you were taken far too soon.
Vlad
Posted by: quentra Aug 14 2013, 03:48 AM
Dirk has a fucking Echo Mirage decker as a contact. I wish I could find a GM that lets me do that QQ
Posted by: vladski Aug 14 2013, 04:23 AM
You could have a contact like Buddy if you want to spend around 10 points for her. I would say Dirk had her for Loyalty 4 and Connection 6.
Also, don't forget that Dirk's Buddy was not quite the Buddy of her EM days.
Vlad
Posted by: quentra Aug 14 2013, 04:32 AM
Hell, if you're running a PI, contacts are a good portion of your karma. You gotta know /everybody/, and I mean /everybody./
Posted by: Dancer Aug 14 2013, 06:59 AM
Make sure to get a nanohive and O Cells + Universal Nantidotes. Being bulletproof's no good if you can be taken down by a whiff of chloroform or a case of the runs.
Posted by: Chance359 Aug 14 2013, 01:33 PM
Don't forget Mike Hammer. could work as either a mundane or as an unaware adept.
Posted by: Gamble Aug 14 2013, 10:25 PM
Any more suggestions on cyber/bioware? Again, nothing over the top but enough to have an edge here and there.
Posted by: DrZaius Aug 15 2013, 01:11 PM
I would think all the various surveillance equipment type cyberware would be good. Maybe an arm or something will all sorts of sensors in it. Or you could run a small stable of drones for oversight and other types of investigation.
Posted by: DrZaius Aug 15 2013, 01:17 PM
I also made a bounty hunter for a game that never got off the ground, just to give you more ideas.
Posted by: Rad Aug 29 2013, 02:44 AM
Big fan of the PI genre myself, statted up a Troll detective back when I first started playing the game and was just spinning out concepts to get a feel for chargen.
Name was Bad News Johnny. An ex go-ganger turned PI with maxed out edge and the bad luck quality. Basically gave him the typical pulp-detective's life: things would go bad in a big big way, but then he'd catch the breaks he needed to dig himself out again.
As for turning old private dicks into shadowrunners, take a look at Sam Spade. He's got a guy in the DA's office convinced that he's dirty, a hotshot lawyer fixer who keeps them at bay (barely), pals around with criminal types, and never quite lets on to anybody just what side he's really on. (His own, of course.)
Man had to be a pre-awakening adept too--between the way he keeps his poker face up and controls all those little tells, and the time he sobered himself up and fought his way out of a drug house after being knocked out and hooked up to a heroine IV for a couple days. Basically cold-turkey flushed himself in a couple of hours by sheer willpower alone.
Posted by: Critias Aug 29 2013, 01:51 PM
Bah, noirish PI's in Shadowrun? What madness is this?! That'd never work!
Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Aug 29 2013, 02:34 PM
Would be nice if it did, though it is not for lack of trying...
Posted by: quentra Aug 29 2013, 08:51 PM
My PI regularly turned down typical jobs (which is why he lived out of a shit hotel in a shit part of Downtown) cause he totally wasn't a runner. I mean, he was a SINner ex-black ops guy with a fifty thousand 'yen worth of chrome and a batcave of guns and explosives and ran with a Cat Shaman, an elf rigger and decker, and a bioadept...who regularly caused property damage by things going 'splodey.
Totally not a runner. At all.
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