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Posted by: Voran Sep 26 2013, 11:49 PM

I was just wondering what the average wealth your runners tend (if there is an average) to end up with. Is it a function of game-level-intent? Street version games vs International Shadow Action? Does it matter if you're a mundane or a tech-type? Are you still street-level poor, Permanent Middleclass, Higher? Kane level of "Yeah I operate multimillion dollar vehicles to further my piracy and stuff" of wealth?

How long did it take you to achieve the wealth rating you ended up with?

I'd say the 'retirement wealth' my chars end up with tends to be a few million (3-7). Depending on if I need to upgrade cyber and stuff post chargen, it may be less.

Posted by: CanRay Sep 27 2013, 12:19 AM

20¥ and a gift certificate for Stuffer Shack.

Posted by: Draco18s Sep 27 2013, 12:27 AM

Wait, you actually PLAYED a game?

Posted by: Erik Baird Sep 27 2013, 12:50 AM

If he did, he must have been playing the rigger.

Posted by: FuelDrop Sep 27 2013, 12:57 AM

Nah, he just used the core book's pay scale. I think that the gm was generous with the gift voucher.

Posted by: Dolanar Sep 27 2013, 01:02 AM

I would say that depends on the group, some groups like to have to struggle to make enough for Rent & ammo, others like to have enough to buy an upgrade of some sort every few sessions. I plan to keep an up to date calender for my group & allow them to decide how much money they make by budgeting their time.

Posted by: CanRay Sep 27 2013, 01:34 AM

I GM. It is how I'm able to write for the game.

Posted by: Jaid Sep 27 2013, 05:07 AM

well, maybe the GM felt sorry for him since the pay increase for facing two great dragons as opposed to one doesn't exist (unless the party consists of only one person and that's the only encounter, in which case you would qualify for being outnumbered two to one by NPCs of a professional rating of four or better and you qualify for a 1k nuyen bonus, but that only applies if that one PC never faced 3 or more random schmucks. also, at six great dragons, you qualify for another 1k nuyen bonus, and may also qualify for that outnumbered bonus if your group has 3 PCs instead of only 1).

Posted by: Chrome Head Sep 27 2013, 05:23 AM

I laughed out loud. So true. So sad.

Posted by: Dolanar Sep 27 2013, 12:12 PM

yeah, the pay should scale a bit better, if you're facing a GD, I'm asking for 200k/person minimum.

Posted by: quentra Sep 27 2013, 02:23 PM

I /try/ to pay my runners well, but it turns out the Johnson's are usually trying to screw them! Poor runners.

Posted by: Chrome Head Sep 27 2013, 02:34 PM

Thankfully they can ask for half up front. Pretty standard, in good part for that reason.

Posted by: Jaid Sep 27 2013, 08:37 PM

half of "getting paid less than the cost of the ammunition i would need to use assuming you the great dragon never actually counterattacks or defends itself in any way" up front is still not a convincing argument that i should face down a great dragon.

Posted by: Sendaz Sep 27 2013, 10:41 PM

Would you do it for a Scooby Snack?

Posted by: Chrome Head Sep 27 2013, 11:07 PM

Haha I'm not arguing that. The pay grades don't scale properly at all. I think most GMs will likely ignore that part of the book entirely.

Posted by: Dolanar Sep 27 2013, 11:09 PM

I'll use it as a guide, but likely increase the amounts.

Posted by: Jaid Sep 28 2013, 04:01 AM

no.


.......

i'd do it for *two* Scooby Snacks

Posted by: FuelDrop Sep 28 2013, 04:07 AM

good man. Hold out for a fair price.

Posted by: CanRay Sep 28 2013, 06:18 AM

*Steals the Scooby Snax and eats them quickly*

Posted by: Angelone Sep 28 2013, 06:23 AM

For 25k I'll find out what happened to the Scooby Snax.

Posted by: Chrome Head Sep 28 2013, 07:11 AM

For 40k I'll guarantee no one messes with the Scooby Snax. Ever.

Posted by: Dolanar Sep 28 2013, 07:25 AM

for 100k I'll blow up the Scooby Snax so whoever has them gets dead. & make sure every box is loaded the same way.

Posted by: Dolanar Sep 28 2013, 07:25 AM

for 100k I'll blow up the Scooby Snax so whoever has them gets dead. & make sure every box is loaded the same way.

Posted by: FuelDrop Sep 28 2013, 08:15 AM

for ten bucks (Plus expenses) I'll run down to the store and grab a fresh packet. what isle are they in again?

Posted by: Jaid Sep 28 2013, 03:54 PM

eh, this isn't so bad.

now i don't have to go take on any great dragons any more. enjoy your shadowrun CanRay.

Posted by: Sendaz Sep 28 2013, 05:03 PM

Zoinks!

Posted by: Draco18s Sep 28 2013, 06:00 PM

Jinkies!

Posted by: Sendaz Sep 28 2013, 06:26 PM

ScoobyRun™

Where your misfit team of teenagers and one dog (MastiffAdept?(yes we know he is a Great Dane, work with us), cyberhound?, shapeshifter?) investigate mysterious happenings.

Freddy- Face/Rigger

Daphne - Combat Specialist (see the movie for that update )

Velma - Decker/Investigator

Shaggy- Monster Bait / Shaman w/ Mentor Spirit: Chicken

Scooby- ??

Posted by: CanRay Sep 28 2013, 08:07 PM

Bad enough I have one member in my group that keeps wanting to do this!

Posted by: Voran Sep 28 2013, 10:22 PM

A Daphne and Velma sandwich?

Posted by: CanRay Sep 28 2013, 10:35 PM

I already have one Shipping FanFic to do In Universe.

Posted by: KCKitsune Sep 28 2013, 10:47 PM

I'd do it for a Klondike bar.

Back on topic, the pay scale in Shadowrun is pants-on-the-head retarded. Honestly, for the money you can get in one run (ESPECIALLY if you're a mage) get a job at a corp and relax. Payouts need to be at least 10 times what's stated.

Posted by: Sendaz Sep 28 2013, 11:36 PM

Yessss... about that *cracks whip*

Posted by: FuelDrop Sep 28 2013, 11:56 PM

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/facebook/facebook-con-artist-steals-366000-from-woman/1409 http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Latest-News-Wires/2013/0205/Credit-card-con-artists-steal-over-200-million-18-arrested Why should shadowrunners in the future make so little by comparison?

Posted by: CanRay Sep 29 2013, 12:25 AM

Competition.

Posted by: KCKitsune Sep 29 2013, 02:05 AM

There's not THAT much competition!

Posted by: Angelone Sep 29 2013, 02:09 AM

"Excuse me, where's the line for the Frodunker extraction?"
"I hope we don't need to take a number like last time."