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Posted by: j2klbs Jan 3 2014, 08:59 AM

The rules say that creatures that can fly have the Flight skill listed. Fire spirits have the skill but air spirits do not. So, apparently, fire spirits can fly but air spirits cannot?

I'm assuming this will be fixed in the errata when it comes out. Any word on when that might be?

Posted by: FuelDrop Jan 3 2014, 09:27 AM

When's the next anniversary?

Posted by: Stahlseele Jan 3 2014, 09:49 AM

oi, that was very cynical!
i am sure they will implement some form of errata before . . pffbwahahahahahahaaaaa . . sorry, i can't type this with a straight face ^^

Posted by: Bigity Jan 3 2014, 02:39 PM

Does the german side have errata yet?

Posted by: Sendaz Jan 3 2014, 02:48 PM

Only Hydrogen and Helium elemental variants of the air elemental family can fly, being lighter than air, however the hydrogen ones tend to catch fire easily and get reclassified as Fire then.

Posted by: Stahlseele Jan 3 2014, 02:57 PM

Probably. i care so little about SR5 that i never even tried to get my hands on a copy somehow.

edit:
according to a thread on the official german boards, at least two thirds of the found english errors seem to have been corrected.
in the FIRST german printing, mind you.
the official german errata thread is for the 2nd printing already.

Posted by: Neraph Jan 3 2014, 03:30 PM

Does 5th still have the rules that Spirits can travel in any 3 directions they want like 4th did? In that case, Fire spirits could fly but couldn't use the Fly skill to get extra movement like running, just as in 4th Ed.

Posted by: Sengir Jan 3 2014, 04:14 PM

Its physical body is not subject to gravity—though most spirits stay close to the ground because that’s where all the action is (p. 301 f)


My German copy indeed no longer has the Flight skill for any spirit, but given the above I'd rather call that trimming unnecessary stuff than errata.

Posted by: Bigity Jan 3 2014, 06:39 PM

Urge to kill rising...

Posted by: Stahlseele Jan 3 2014, 06:55 PM

http://www.catalystgamelabs.com/contact/

Posted by: kzt Jan 3 2014, 06:59 PM

CGL is planning on doing the errata release at next Gencon. For $45 in hardcover.

Posted by: Tanegar Jan 3 2014, 07:37 PM

Who prints Shadowrun in Deutschland, and how can we get Catalyst to just sell the license to them?

Posted by: Stahlseele Jan 3 2014, 07:53 PM

Pegasus Spiele.
And yes, that would be my preferred way of handling things too . .
Maybe we could even get Frank and Bobby back on board with that change <.<

Posted by: Medicineman Jan 3 2014, 07:57 PM

its Pegasus Games and maybe , if You Kickstart enough Money.... ?
I Cherish that thought

He Who dances with a Pegasus
Medicineman

Posted by: Bigity Jan 3 2014, 09:23 PM

SR6? The...New Year of Shadowrun 2014?

Posted by: kzt Jan 4 2014, 02:17 AM

SR5.01: The Corrected Version.
http://www.inkedcelebrity.com/jessejames3.html

Posted by: Machiavelli Jan 4 2014, 01:17 PM

I would spend money for that change. Just tell me where to transfer it....

Posted by: Fatum Jan 5 2014, 06:34 AM

And they say they accept USPS packages, hmmm?

Posted by: kirtimlak Jan 6 2014, 09:12 PM

Slow down - g-men are reading it and watching you typing...

Posted by: Fatum Jan 6 2014, 11:53 PM

And? I'm with the govt.

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Jan 7 2014, 02:32 PM

But are you one of the Men in Black?

Posted by: Stahlseele Jan 7 2014, 02:48 PM

If he's good, he's one of the Men in Grey.

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Jan 7 2014, 03:08 PM

Those frackin' aliens again... *sigh*

Posted by: kirtimlak Jan 7 2014, 05:42 PM

Are there any in SR by the way?

Posted by: Tanegar Jan 7 2014, 05:54 PM

Ooh, Shadowrun/Mage: The Ascension crossover!

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Jan 7 2014, 06:20 PM

If they are, would they tell you?

Posted by: Sengir Jan 7 2014, 06:35 PM

There is a dragon skeleton on Mars, but that story has not been revisited for ages

Posted by: Fatum Jan 7 2014, 06:56 PM

Someone also stole that Mars expedition for a few days. So there is SOMETHING out there.

Posted by: Sengir Jan 7 2014, 06:58 PM

Right, forgot about that episode

Posted by: Neraph Jan 8 2014, 04:27 PM

I still like the idea that Mars isn't covered in iron rust - it's naturally-formed orichalcum. Evo's keeping it a secret because it'd cause unknown upheaval on Earth were word to get out about it. Also, since it's orichalc, Mars has a stable manasphere without having to have biological entities.

Posted by: Tymeaus Jalynsfein Jan 8 2014, 06:51 PM

Interesting Idea...

Posted by: FuelDrop Jan 8 2014, 09:24 PM

Wouldn't that make it glow like a star on the astral plane if anyone ever looked up?

Posted by: Stahlseele Jan 8 2014, 10:29 PM

Not quite i'd say.
There is, after all, the hugely no magic zone of space in between . .
So even if you did try to see it using astral perception, that's a straight -12 to even seeing it at all i think?

Posted by: Sengir Jan 9 2014, 12:46 PM

Depends on how such a void works when just looking through it without either source or destination actually being in it. Straight off the bat I'd guess it's transparent, but magic can be funky...

Posted by: Stahlseele Jan 9 2014, 01:04 PM

As far as i remember, the dead zones are inky blackness like in descriptions.

Posted by: Draco18s Jan 9 2014, 01:16 PM

This. They aren't necessarily opaque, but they aren't clear either.

Posted by: Sengir Jan 9 2014, 05:02 PM

Mana warps are described as alternatively chaotic swirls of color or pitch black holes. But I couldn't find describing how opaque a complete void is. You could argue that a huge nothingness can't block LOS, but astral space might also work like the old ether hypothesis, i.e. there needs to be some medium (in this case mana) to transmit the "light".