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Posted by: ThatPaolo Aug 25 2003, 02:47 PM

Apparently, when you click on delete topic, the topic gets deleted for good. And that would be ok, if that was the action you wanted to do. Or at least, the action that you were supposed to do. But when you just want to move a topic to a new forum and select "Delete topic" and press "Ok" and then look dumbfounded at the screen saying "No topics", well... sorry

Posted by: Fortune Aug 25 2003, 02:58 PM

Oops!

Posted by: KosherPickle Aug 25 2003, 03:36 PM

Posted by: Synner Aug 25 2003, 03:58 PM

FYI - Last I heard the cover will be some evocative original art done by Marko Djurdjevic.

Posted by: Pistons Aug 25 2003, 05:19 PM

Silly Paolo.

Posted by: kylleran Aug 26 2003, 09:29 PM

Actually Klaus Scherwinski is going to be doing the cover art.

Posted by: JongWK Aug 27 2003, 03:03 AM

About SoE:

a) While the cover art is great, I just don't get the "feel" it is uniquely European.

b) The last "s" of "Shadows" is slightly off. In fact, it looks like Sh-adow-s.

c) The red "of Europe": so-so style

d) One way or the other, I'll still buy it

e) FASTER! FASTER!

Posted by: Ronin Soul Aug 27 2003, 03:23 AM

The cover feel isn't really European I agree. Shadows of Tir na nOg maybe (yes I know that is European technically but I'd rather something from the continent, which is most of Europe after all). I always thought something of Berlin or Paris would be good. Something involving the Arc de Triumph maybe. I think part of the problem is that the picture concentrates on a character when it's a setting book (so something more of a panorama type picure, like on SONA).

Posted by: KosherPickle Aug 27 2003, 03:43 AM

Posted by: Adam Aug 27 2003, 04:29 AM

Okay. For those of you who don't understand why there's this "fake" cover and why it looks like it was put together in 30 minutes, here's why:

The regular book trade market requires a book to be solicited four months in advance of the shipping date. The hobby trade requires three months advance.

So, in January, you have to come up for the cover for books scheduled to be released in May. Often, you don't have the cover art ready for them, and layout/design probably hasn't been started yet. So, a piece of old art is used, and someone quickly throws together a mockup cover. Sometimes this person is the guy that does the regular covers, sometimes it's not - I did the mockup covers for MRLBB and Running Wild, simply because I was spending some time in Chicago hanging out and Rob needed the covers done quickly. Total time to do two mockup covers: About an hour. The Running Wild one is particularly horrid, but I was in a hurry.

The mockups are usually done quickly because, well, they don't have a big impact on sales, and spending a lot of time working on them is time better spent on other projects.

Posted by: Fortune Aug 27 2003, 06:16 PM

Posted by: Adam Aug 27 2003, 06:24 PM

When the books are added to the website, which should be very shortly for MRLBB. Running Wild isn't scheduled for 2003, so it won't be on the site yet.

Posted by: Skarn Ka Aug 30 2003, 09:46 AM

Posted by: Toa Sep 13 2003, 01:33 PM

Just btw, the mockup cover for Shadows of Asia can be seen http://www.f-shop.de/images2/10670.jpg.

Posted by: KosherPickle Sep 13 2003, 04:15 PM

Posted by: Toa Sep 14 2003, 02:18 AM

Damn, missed that. But it's nice to see that pic in color - was one of my favorites in Corporate Download.

Posted by: Abstruse Sep 14 2003, 07:40 AM

I like the chibi guy in the upper right corner of the SotA: 2064 "cover"

The Abstruse One

Posted by: Nath Sep 14 2003, 02:16 PM

When thinking about it, that SOTA:2064 "cover" could have make sense as the cover ofr Mr Johnson Little Black book.

Posted by: Adam Sep 14 2003, 06:31 PM

The art on the MJLBB mockup cover - available http://www.shadowrunrpg.com/products/product.php?i=10672&title=Mr.+Johnson%92s+Little+Black+Book is the final art, btw.

Posted by: Nath Sep 14 2003, 06:40 PM

The two small bits in the upper left corner are those of Shadows of North America though

Posted by: Sepherim Sep 14 2003, 11:41 PM

Ain't the artwork for MrJLBB a little "too futuristic"?

Posted by: Adam Sep 15 2003, 12:27 AM

No.

Posted by: Toa Sep 15 2003, 07:14 AM

Adam:
Is the cover text also the final version? It laps the picture border.

http://www.f-shop.de/images2/10672.jpg's the cover in a slightly bigger version - again with that "chibi guy" (enjoy, Abstruse ).

BTW, why is it MRLBB and not MJLBB?

Posted by: Adam Sep 15 2003, 08:00 PM

Posted by: Pistons Sep 16 2003, 04:14 AM

Heya Adam - on the sell sheet for the website, it should be suit vs. suite.

Posted by: CloneAdam Sep 16 2003, 04:24 AM

Fixed. Again, blame Rob.

Also, new SOE mockup cover posted. It uses the final art, and a slightly modified version of the cover text. However, the cover art suffered a very poor CMYK-> RGB conversion [In layman's term, Printer colours to Screen colours] so it looks kind of washed out. Hopefully we'll have the final final cover along soon.

Posted by: lorg Sep 16 2003, 09:18 AM

The new SoE looks really nice.

Posted by: Synner Sep 16 2003, 04:49 PM

Wow, Klaus did an impressive job!

Btw - Adam, you might want to update the SoE blurb to the one on the sell sheet. No biggie, since it's only slightly different and makes a reference to my hometown .

Posted by: CloneAdam Sep 16 2003, 05:43 PM

Next you'll have me lifting cinderblocks!

I'll try and remember to do so tonight; my SO is in town and I'm trying to spend as little time as possible chained to the computer.

[Oh, I cannot wait for my new PowerBook to arrive. Here, my precious, come to daddy...]

Posted by: Toa Nov 2 2003, 10:41 PM

Mockup Cover Alarm!

http://www.f-shop.de/images2/10669.jpg
http://www.f-shop.de/images2/10674.jpg

Posted by: Adam Nov 3 2003, 06:24 PM

Ah, the joys of doing mockups while Rob and Kevin are standing behind you waiting for you to finish so everyone can go to lunch.

Posted by: JongWK Nov 3 2003, 06:33 PM

The LA mock cover would be a fine real one, except for the title fonts. Do you use generic ones?

Posted by: Adam Nov 3 2003, 07:03 PM

I didn't do the LA mockup; I did the final MJLBB mockup and the Running Wild one. I use whatever font is appropriate for the effect i want to achieve.