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Posted by: rlemansky Jun 11 2004, 02:01 PM

Greetings.

I'm looking to add a few books to my SR collection and am looking for some advice.

I already have 2 editions of The Grimoire and Awakenings. How much additional information is there in Magic in the Shadows?

I was looking at the Germany Sourcebook for the new Totems/Idols. Are they included in MitS or is this the only place to find them?

I'm curious about Night Ones, Gnomes and Dryads. Where can I find information on these character races-and SURGE in general? I was thinking Year of the Comet, but wasn't too sure.

It seems as though lots of folks at Dumpshock aren't too fond of these additions-SURGE and whatnot, and I've read much of the rationale, both pro and con. Is there a website that doesn't pirate but does give a synopsis or discussion of these changes? I'm particularly looking at the new character races, so any insight would help. Has AH done an in-depth analysis (like with the Infected)? If not, is he anytime soon (love his site-very insightful)?

Any help'd be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

R

Posted by: Synner Jun 11 2004, 02:07 PM

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I'm looking to add a few books to my SR collection and am looking for some advice.
I already have 2 editions of The Grimoire and Awakenings. How much additional information is there in Magic in the Shadows?

MitS updates the material in all those books to 3rd Edition and includes some (a few) new odds and ends. Note that while the magic system didn't get a complete revamp from previous editions it did get enough modifications and changes that it makes it a must buy.

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I was looking at the Germany Sourcebook for the new Totems/Idols. Are they included in MitS or is this the only place to find them?

Most if not all the stats and references to those Idols are in MitS; the complementary background on the various traditions that follow them will be in Shadows of Europe and SoTA64.

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I'm curious about Night Ones, Gnomes and Dryads. Where can I find information on these character races-and SURGE in general? I was thinking Year of the Comet, but wasn't too sure.

SURGE expressions are indeed a new development introduced in YotC. The metahuman variants (those listed and a handful of others) however are listed in the Shadowrun Companion (3rd Ed version).

Posted by: durthang Jun 11 2004, 02:16 PM

Night Ones, Dryads, and other Metavariants can be found in the Sr Companion. SURGE is in YotC. As for the totem information, I've never seen the Germany source book or Awakenings to compare.

Posted by: shadd4d Jun 11 2004, 02:16 PM

Initiation is done different; there are new abilities as well as some new metamagics. Basically 1 metamagic + 1 magic point. It's a good book that updates everything in Grimoire 2, Awakenings, Germany, Tir Na Nog, UB, Bug City, and Aztlan. It's worth it. The Idols are included including new ones, more paranormal totems, updates of druidic and shamanic totems. Lots of Adept powers, reworked voodoo rules, Wuxing magicians, and path magicians. It works real well.

Variant metahumans: Shadowrun companion. Also reworks lots of the additional rules in the back of Fields of Fire.

I've seen a SURGE/New race discussion at Fanpro. Since I don't have JDK, I don't know how to judge it.

Don