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Posted by: Mr.Platinum Jun 12 2004, 02:41 PM
how many GM's out there have put bounties on there own players head or just had the elements of bounty hunters in there game?
I use them as possible enemies or just a good " Gots Damnit i gotta run to redmond or thos bastard are going to cash in on me."
Posted by: Hunter Jun 12 2004, 03:31 PM
| QUOTE (Mr.Platinum) |
| how many GM's out there have put bounties on there own players head or just had the elements of bounty hunters in there game? I use them as possible enemies or just a good " Gots Damnit i gotta run to redmond or thos bastard are going to cash in on me." |
Can't say that I've ever put a bounty on a player's head before.
Posted by: Omega Skip Jun 12 2004, 03:59 PM
It's happened several times in my games, but it wasn't meant as a penalty but rather as a story device. Well, except for this one time when the players got their faces taped by a security camera - which is why they're quite wary of cameras now. But lately, there hasn't been a need for me to rely on bounties to drive plots on - my players have been through this enough.
[Edited to sound less like the grammar police]
Posted by: Mr.Platinum Jun 12 2004, 04:11 PM
Edited!!!!
Posted by: Tom Collins Jun 12 2004, 04:22 PM
My team got bounties put on their heads. I think it was for shooting a group of cops. But that wasn't the best part. After they got prices put on our heads we decided to try to kill 2 birds with one stone. We were going to have a player who didn't have a price on his head try to collect the bounty for the other 2. We found 2 strangers who had a passing resemblance to the wanted men messed them up, killed them, then dressed 'em up in the wanted men's clothes. I walked in to the bar where the exchange was supposed to take place when it all blew up in my face. The guy who was there to pay out for the bounty was the bodygaurd of the last Johnson we worked for. Unfortunately he recognized me, fire fight ensues. Thank God he didn't bring any backup.
Posted by: Bearclaw Jun 12 2004, 05:34 PM
| QUOTE (Mr.Platinum) |
| Don't be a dick about it, you know what I fucken said!!! |
"Fuckin'" is the correct spelling
Posted by: Siege Jun 12 2004, 05:49 PM
| QUOTE (Bearclaw) | ||
"Fuckin'" is the correct spelling |
Really?
I would have thought "fucking" is the more appropriate spelling. Fancy that.
-Siege
Posted by: BitBasher Jun 12 2004, 05:55 PM
Actually AFAIK The only time an actual bounty hunter will ever come after you is if you jump bail. Otherwise it's kidnapping. Bounty hunters are a (kinda) legal occupation.
Posted by: Siege Jun 12 2004, 05:56 PM
| QUOTE (BitBasher) |
| Actually AFAIK The only time an actual bounty hunter will ever come after you is if you jump bail. Otherwise it's kidnapping. Bounty hunters are a (kinda) legal occupation. |
I thought bounty hunters could also collect on "wanted fugitives"? Such as the FBI's ten most wanted, etc.?
-Siege
Posted by: Bearclaw Jun 12 2004, 06:24 PM
| QUOTE (Siege) | ||||
Really? I would have thought "fucking" is the more appropriate spelling. Fancy that. -Siege |
That is also correct, but no more so than the contraction that I typed. You obviously missed the apostrophe in "fuckin'". It's easy to do with the quotes there.
Posted by: Omega Skip Jun 12 2004, 06:27 PM
One. Grammar issues have been put aside via PM. No more discussion necessary. Thank you.
Two. One way how my players dealt with bounty hunters was to fake their own deaths. They thought about it, then realized that it would mean giving up their reputation, most of their stuff, their connections... the final decision was to fake their death, and then relocate to England. I've re-used similar scenarios to relocate runner teams ever since, to great success. Of course, added fun ensues when the dreaded Andrea McBain finds out her mark isn't dead at all, but running errands for a certain Hr. Schmidt.
Of course, this scenario plays just as well the other way around...
| QUOTE (Some Runner) |
| But... we saw him die with our own eyes. NO ONE could have survived that explosion. Unless - |
Posted by: BitBasher Jun 12 2004, 06:28 PM
| QUOTE (Siege @ Jun 12 2004, 05:56 PM) | ||
I thought bounty hunters could also collect on "wanted fugitives"? Such as the FBI's ten most wanted, etc.? -Siege |
Not as far as I can find. Bounty Hunters do not have any special rights or priveleges unless they are under contract from a bail bond company for the return of a fugitive apparently. They are contracted to aquire specific people. They may go freelance in the cases of criminals that have a reward placed on their arrest, but that would never be a reliable source of income as most of those rewards never even know the target, as they are of the "reward for the arrest and conviction of whoever blahbedly blah" because thr perp is not known.
After searching I could not find any records of a bounty hunter having nabbed an FBI top 10.
For more info see:
http://www.77investigators.com/bounty.html
http://jobprofiles.monster.com/Content/job_content/JC_Military/JSC_PrivateSecurity/JOB_BountyHunter/jobzilla_html?jobprofiles=1
Apparently by definition the "Bounty hunters" are really only employed by bail bondsmen. Every web site I found, dozens of then supported only that view. That doesn't mean it's 100% accurate, but it should indicate something.
Posted by: Siege Jun 12 2004, 06:45 PM
I didn't say it was a good living, just that you could do it. 
As you pointed out, most rewards are based on "information leading to arrest and conviction of", although the FBI specifies "leading to the arrest of".
And I found http://jobprofiles.monster.com/Content/job_content/JC_Military/JSC_PrivateSecurity/JOB_BountyHunter/jobzilla_html?jobprofiles=1 while perusing the topic online.
http://www.beabountyhunter.com/main.htm
And a vaguely more coherent "professional" bounty hunter http://www.courttv.com/talk/chat_transcripts/2001/0316bounty-burton.html here.
But Bit is absolutely correct -- the modern day "bounty hunter" is a bail bondsman. Nothing prohibits the bounty hunter from free-lancing wanted criminals for the reward money, but that is open to anyone and not the exclusive domain of bounty hunters, per se.
-Siege
Edit: It should be noted that the special arrest powers of bounty hunters only apply when in pursuit of specific bail jumpers and do not translate as broad-based arrest or law enforcement powers.
Posted by: Omega Skip Jun 12 2004, 06:54 PM
And then there's the http://www.bounty-hunter.net/home.htm... God, I'm such a sucker for smart acronyms.
But so far, I can also second what BitBasher said. Question is, who'd realistic BHs in Shadowrun work for?
Posted by: Siege Jun 12 2004, 06:57 PM
| QUOTE (Omega Skip) |
| And then there's the http://www.bounty-hunter.net/home.htm... God, I'm such a sucker for smart acronyms. But so far, I can also second what BitBasher said. Question is, who'd realistic BHs in Shadowrun work for? |
Going by the bail bondsmen definition, they'd work for anyone who offers bail. You can still commit crimes, be arrested and be bailed out in Seattle.
Granted, the whole extra-territoriality scenario is an additional headache.
Otherwise, I'd imagine a large number of criminals would have "reward for information of", especially given the number of sources that could come from.
In that instance, a "bounty hunter" could afford to free-lance full time, investigating and supplying the necessary information necessary for the arrest. Although in this category, they function more like private investigators than bounty hunters, even if they are "hunting the bounty."
-Siege
Posted by: BitBasher Jun 12 2004, 07:09 PM
| QUOTE |
| Question is, who'd realistic BHs in Shadowrun work for? |
| QUOTE |
| In that instance, a "bounty hunter" could afford to free-lance full time, investigating and supplying the necessary information necessary for the arrest. Although in this category, they function more like private investigators than bounty hunters, even if they are "hunting the bounty." |
A bounty hunter has to work a LOT harder for anyinfo since he doesnt have the media backing him up and he cant afford to offer big rewards for info.
Posted by: Siege Jun 12 2004, 07:13 PM
There have been numerous speculations about quasi-legitimate work for down-turn runners, but the three big ones:
Collections Agents
Private Detectives
Skip Tracers
Bodyguards
*There isn't a legal recognition of this job occuptation, per se, but anyone licensed to carry a gun could, concievably, sell themselves as such.
Private Security Guard
*one way of becoming licensed to carry a weapon "on the job"
-Siege
Posted by: BitBasher Jun 12 2004, 07:28 PM
You realize you just said "The three big ones" then listed five things right?
Posted by: Siege Jun 12 2004, 07:30 PM
| QUOTE (BitBasher) |
| You realize you just said "The three big ones" then listed five things right? |
Wait, I'm required to be coherent?
Sense when?
-Siege
Posted by: DeadNeon Jun 12 2004, 08:53 PM
| QUOTE (BitBasher) |
| Actually AFAIK The only time an actual bounty hunter will ever come after you is if you jump bail. Otherwise it's kidnapping. Bounty hunters are a (kinda) legal occupation. |
Thats why theres a fine line between "bail bondsman" and "bounty hunter"
A bail bondsman will generally not rough you up (much), and will often have the co-operation of local law enforcment. Bounty hunters tend to gravitate towards the shadier side of dealings such as organised crime, "off the book" bounties, etc.
Guess which one is more fun for use in game.
Posted by: BitBasher Jun 13 2004, 12:24 AM
Um no neon, that's not right, click the link on the sites that were linked to. By definition a bounty hunter is paid by a bail bondsman to recover someone that jumped bail. A bail bondsman is the person that provides the bail for the person who cannot afford it. A bail bondsman is a business owner that doesnt do anything to track anyone down except hire a bounty hunter and pay him if he is sucessful. I dont know what word you were looking for, bail bondsman wasnt it. The literal definition of bounty hunter is one who tracks down and returns for a fee those who skip bail.
It's been romanticized badly by the butchering the phrase took in movies like Star Wars. Boba fett was NOT a bounty hunter, he was a mercenary.
Posted by: Siege Jun 13 2004, 12:34 AM
| QUOTE (BitBasher) |
| Um no neon, that's not right, click the link on the sites that were linked to. By definition a bounty hunter is paid by a bail bondsman to recover someone that jumped bail. A bail bondsman is the person that provides the bail for the person who cannot afford it. A bail bondsman is a business owner that doesnt do anything to track anyone down except hire a bounty hunter and pay him if he is sucessful. I dont know what word you were looking for, bail bondsman wasnt it. The literal definition of bounty hunter is one who tracks down and returns for a fee those who skip bail. It's been romanticized badly by the butchering the phrase took in movies like Star Wars. Boba fett was NOT a bounty hunter, he was a mercenary. |
Well, technically I think bounty hunters started as free-lancers. They collected bounties placed on wanted outlaws in the "Old West."
In modern society, they are restricted to and are, in fact, bail bond enforcement.
So technically, Bobba Fett was a bounty hunter.
-Siege
Posted by: BitBasher Jun 13 2004, 01:08 AM
He was a Mercenary, or really a thug, he was hired to hunt down Han after he racked up a debt to an organized crime figure.
While I'm at it....
Boba Fett was everyone's bitch. He didn't do anything competent except get is ass kicked by a blind man. Other authors wrote about him after the fact, which doesnt make him anything more than a gimp that was in the right place at the right time. He was a scrub. Remember, only the movies are officially canon according to lucas. And in the movies he was pretty pathetic, although he had cool looking armor.
Posted by: Capt. Dave Jun 13 2004, 02:02 AM
If a person "hunts" someone for the "bounty" on his/her head, he's only after them for the aforementioned bounty. So he's effectively hunting a bounty. Hence, bounty hunter.
Sure, most bounty hunters nowadays are paid by a bail-bondsman to capture bailjumpers, but if you hunt bounty, no matter who sets it, you're a bounty hunter.
Geez, that's a lot of bounties...
Posted by: kevyn668 Jun 13 2004, 03:03 AM
| QUOTE (BitBasher @ Jun 12 2004, 09:08 PM) |
| He was a Mercenary, or really a thug, he was hired to hunt down Han after he racked up a debt to an organized crime figure. While I'm at it.... Boba Fett was everyone's bitch. He didn't do anything competent except get is ass kicked by a blind man. Other authors wrote about him after the fact, which doesnt make him anything more than a gimp that was in the right place at the right time. He was a scrub. Remember, only the movies are officially canon according to lucas. And in the movies he was pretty pathetic, although he had cool looking armor. |
I can't believe you could say such things. Heretic!
...And while I'm at it:
In SR, I got the impression that Bounty Hunters were individuals that hunted people for money, dead or alive. Just like Siege said (I think. I only skimmed that post). I just don't get that bounty hunters in SR are just BailBondCorp™ off the book lackies (read: Shadowrunners) that bring in evil doers (read: Shadowrunners) so justice can be served.
Boring.
Posted by: Moonstone Spider Jun 13 2004, 03:29 AM
I agree with Bit on the Boba Fett issue.
As for SR bounty hunters, I don't pretend every event in SR is perfectly realistic so I'm willing to go with the romanticized version of Bounty Hunting rather than have them be bail-bondsmen.
Posted by: Moonstone Spider Jun 13 2004, 03:29 AM
I agree with Bit on the Boba Fett issue.
As for SR bounty hunters, I don't pretend every event in SR is perfectly realistic so I'm willing to go with the romanticized version of Bounty Hunting rather than have them be bail-bondsmen.
Posted by: BitBasher Jun 13 2004, 03:30 AM
Reality and Boring are often one and the same.
Posted by: Badmojo Jun 13 2004, 03:31 AM
I think anytime currency or and kind of reward is placed on an individual, the person who is tries to collect is considered a Bounty Hunter. I think this is generally understood in the shadowrun universe.
I even believe that there is an archetype for a Troll bounty Hunter in the 2nd Edition contact book that came with the GM screen.
But the truth is there are bounty Bounty hunters who go after criminals that have skipped on there bail bondsman, And there exist the bounty hunters who go after the bounties put on runners from Corps, Organized Crime, Private Organizations, or any individuals who may wish the apprehension of said runners.
Posted by: kevyn668 Jun 13 2004, 03:45 AM
| QUOTE |
| Moonstone Spider Posted on Jun 12 2004, 11:29 PM I agree with Bit on the Boba Fett issue. |
Good for you.
| QUOTE |
| BitBasher Posted on Jun 12 2004, 11:30 PM Reality and Boring are often one and the same. |
Depends on your reality, I guess.
But for the most part, I agree.
Posted by: Omega Skip Jun 13 2004, 08:03 AM
Ok, so the term "Bounty Hunter" can mean two things:
- A person or group of people who work/s for a bail bond agency of some sort (for example, LoneStar in Shadowrun); they hunt bail jumpers and return them to the loving arms of justice. Since they are a secondary (tertiary?) element of law enforcement (seems like outsourcing to me), they are expected to adhere to the law.
- A person or group of people who collect/s on "Wanted" rewards, like in FBI top ten or, in Shadowrun, a corporation's "Wanted" list. This is much closer to the wild west style of bounty hunting (just get the job done, no one at Aztech cares how you got RunnerX's head), but probably pays a lot less than type 1 bounty hunting.
Posted by: Arethusa Jun 13 2004, 08:14 AM
That's all more or less correct except for the bit about wanted style bounty hunting. At least on paper, the payouts for dangerous stuff like bringing in Osama Bin Laden are a lot better than the measly rewards for bail jumpers, which is why bounty hunting in the US is not a terribly romantic profession. For most people, however, the (extreme) added danger and (extreme) added difficulty don't make it worth it.
Why would someone go after nastier jobs? Some people like a challenge. Some people also like to eat, as bail jumpers really, really, really don't pay well. I also get the feeling that bounty hunting plays a larger role in bringing criminals in in Shadowrun's world than it currently does in the US. Settings with frontier elements tend to capitalize on this element, as lack of strong law enforcement does create a strong market for such services.
Posted by: DeadNeon Jun 13 2004, 02:33 PM
My point was simply that the phrases bail bondsman and bounty hunter carry two entirely different connotations, kind of like "mercenary" and "freelance security operative", or "shadowrunner" and "deniable asset". They're essentially the same thing, but depending on which phrase is used, it brings to mind a different image.
As for a bail bondsman not tracking the person who skipped bail, they often do. Many of them are freelancers who get capital from a third party. I know this because, many moons ago, i had a conversation with somone who was a professional bondsman/tracer. We talked at length about the profession. He was more than informative.
Posted by: Traks Jun 13 2004, 05:03 PM
Yeah, some people in team I GM for got bounties on their heads. Like for killing a chief of high-ranked clinic in Seattle and selling stolen data from their host. He got his karma, allright, and big bounty on his head too. I think he will survive about 2 or if lucky, 3 sessions.
That's the biggest thing, others usually just die by Lonestar or killing each other.
Posted by: BitBasher Jun 13 2004, 06:14 PM
| QUOTE |
| My point was simply that the phrases bail bondsman and bounty hunter carry two entirely different connotations, kind of like "mercenary" and "freelance security operative", or "shadowrunner" and "deniable asset". They're essentially the same thing, but depending on which phrase is used, it brings to mind a different image. |
You may be looking for another term, but bail bondsmen is not it.
http://dictionary.law.com/definition2.asp?selected=24&bold=%7C%7C%7C%7C
| QUOTE |
| I know this because, many moons ago, i had a conversation with somone who was a professional bondsman/tracer. We talked at length about the profession. He was more than informative. |
Posted by: CountZero Jun 13 2004, 07:06 PM
| QUOTE (BitBasher) |
| Er no, a bail bondsman is a TOTALLY different thing than a bounty hunter. A bail bondsman is the businessman who pays your bail. Hes is the businessman who hires a bounty hunter if you skip bail. He has absolutely nothing at all to do with tracking anyone. All he does is run a bail bonds business. A bail bondsman has absolutely nothing im common with a bounty hunter, they are two totally, completely separate jobs that bear no similarities. A bail bondsman sets behind a desk and handles money. You may be looking for another term, but bail bondsmen is not it. |
The term I believe the person was looking for is "Bond Enforcement Agent". They actually are "bounty hunters" in the sense of they are hired by the bail bondsman to track down the person who skipped out on bail.
Posted by: Mr.Platinum Jun 14 2004, 01:06 PM
I look at them as the CowBoys from cowboy beebop when i run a game. Posting what a real Bail Bonds men is great , but those poor bastards have it rough. I like the fictional look at them better than what they are in The united states of now.
Remeber Shadow Run world has changed drastically and corps have there own laws, Tons of Laws have changed since the awakening, i'd put my UCAS cred saying that Body unters are like the Bobba Fetts and Spike Speigals, 
except Bobba Fett was more sucessful than spike.
Posted by: Backgammon Jun 14 2004, 02:34 PM
Hmm, do you think Lone Star would hire special agents to hunt down and kill certain troublesome cybered criminals? Maybe LS figures it's more cost-efficient to simply hire 1 skilled individual to kill off chromed up killers then to go thru all the legal aspects of mounting a SWAT operation to arrest him, put him on trial, pay for the suegrery to remove his cyberware, etc.?
I'm just asking cause I got the image of a guy like Deckard running around "retiring" cyborgs...
Posted by: Da9iel Jun 14 2004, 02:36 PM
What about pesky man-eating paracritters etc.? Ever any bounties on critter pelts? I know in the past, a man could get a fair amount of spare change getting rid of those evil coyotes. 
Posted by: shadd4d Jun 14 2004, 02:59 PM
There's bounties on some, depending when they become problems. There's a bounty on proven man-eating hydras and also one for kluuges. Check out paranormals of Europe for more info. I imagine there's a bounty on wyrd mantises. Basically, if starts causing a problem or is already a problem, i.e. devil rat, then there's probably some one who will pay for its removal.
BTW, does anyone know if they officially rescinded the bounty on ghouls? It was mentioned there was a bounty for them in 2nd ed and also in the Germany sourcebook. Is that still valid or has it been rescinded?
Don
Posted by: Mr.Platinum Jun 14 2004, 03:26 PM
Ah I remeber playing ShadowRun for the sega...i'd always go out on the bounties for ghouls.
God Damn Ghouls.
Posted by: BitBasher Jun 14 2004, 03:43 PM
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| except Bobba Fett was more sucessful than spike. |
Accprding to the Lone Star sourcebook, LS does hire Shadowrunners for some things, but offering a bounty "dead or alive" is still condoning murder, therefore illegal.
| QUOTE |
| Maybe LS figures it's more cost-efficient to simply hire 1 skilled individual to kill off chromed up killers then to go thru all the legal aspects of mounting a SWAT operation to arrest him, put him on trial, pay for the suegrery to remove his cyberware, etc.? |
There's also a bounty on Juggernauts. Good luck.
Posted by: Mr.Platinum Jun 14 2004, 03:52 PM
| QUOTE (BitBasher) | ||
Right, except spike didn't get beat down constantly, nor by a blind guy with a stick in a pit. Boba Fett's rate at doing anything useful was remarkably low. In fact, he really didn't do anything cool at all except wear cool looking armor. |
What and spike did'nt get beat down? Spike had his ass handed to him by Vincent in knocking on heavens doors, By that super assasin in the theme park, man the dude was near death more than Boba Fett, and then there Vicious " even though those 2 where an even match" Hell Spike is dead. I havent heard of Bobba fett dieing yet.
Posted by: Frag-o Delux Jun 14 2004, 04:03 PM
I thought QUebec had bounties on almost every critter? The Bid D has bounties on Blood Mages. I sem to remember a bounty on HOugans now, I think it was in Year of The Comet, I maybe mistaken. In Paranormal Animals of NA, there was a shadowtalker saying a biotech lab (I think Universisal Omnitech) was offering a bounty on a Kraken, yes that big ass sea creature. One caveat though, the skin had to be undamaged.
Personally I like the PI/Bounty Hunter archtype. The skip tracer/bail skip hunter just seems boreing in a game like SR. With that stereotype you can get the whole group involved. A decker, a rigger, a mage and maybe a few sam types/physads.
With a skip tracer, you just have to hang out around the moms house and stupid will show up sooner or ater. Hell, he mom might call you because she will lose her house because Jr the idoit had the desent sense to think about his mother useing her house as bond for the bail. Even the girlfriend will, eventually stupid will do something to piss her off and she'll be mad enough to call you to turn his ass in for revenge. Bailbondsmen usually talk to who ever is doing he bailing. They do a little file on you before you get out. Like "Will Jr. show if we bond him?" They'll check with their friends the clerks to see if you have any FTAs in the past. Get some info on you from family/bailer, to see where you might run if youdecide you need to run this time.
Posted by: BitBasher Jun 14 2004, 04:03 PM
| QUOTE |
| What and spike did'nt get beat down? Spike had his ass handed to him by Vincent in knocking on heavens doors, By that super assasin in the theme park, man the dude was near death more than Boba Fett, and then there Vicious " even though those 2 where an even match" Hell Spike is dead. I havent heard of Bobba fett dieing yet. |
And to keep this topical, in the aftermath of Bug City ghouls were taken off the bounty list as a result of the plight of the Cabrini Refuge IIRC.
Posted by: Siege Jun 14 2004, 04:07 PM
Technically, Deckard worked for the Police. "Blade Runners" were nicknames for a formal Law Enforcement position.
As for Bobba - technically he never climbed out of the Sarlacc pit (in canon). So he's either really dead or really hating life.
And Fett really only got smacked down three times. Well, depending on which clone you're talking about.
-Siege
Posted by: Frag-o Delux Jun 14 2004, 04:09 PM
| QUOTE (Mr.Platinum @ Jun 14 2004, 10:52 AM) | ||||
What and spike did'nt get beat down? Spike had his ass handed to him by Vincent in knocking on heavens doors, By that super assasin in the theme park, man the dude was near death more than Boba Fett, and then there Vicious " even though those 2 where an even match" Hell Spike is dead. I havent heard of Bobba fett dieing yet. |
I agree Bobba Fett in the movies had a poor showing. But like Spike when given the chance (in expanded Universe books) Bobba gets to show he can be a tough nut to crack.
As far as Bobba Fett dieing. He was suppose to have died in the pit. In the expanded universe books they had him escape. So when Lucas re did the movies he had Bobba fly out. I also heard Bobba was killed "again" only to have his identity taken by another as a way to get one of their goals accomplished, after that they decided being the most feared bounty hunter in the galaxy they wanted to stay as Bobba. I am not sure which book it is, I haven't read it, just going off info from a Star Wars junkie friends word. So if that is true, Bobba is not Bobba anymore, it is someone pretending to be Bobba, sort of the Dread Pirate Roberts thing going on.
Edit: BitBasher, not argueing with you but, I seem to remeber Lucas changeing his mind about canon material. Lucas said of course his movies take presedence but has also said anything with a Lucas logo on it is also canon because the logo says he approves of it. He also released a list to put in order the material priority of canon. The movies first then the novels and so on, until you get to coloring books. But that may have more to do with the fact the RPG is pretty popular and things from one source counter others, so if a book says this is right and the movie says something different, well the movie wins.
Posted by: Siege Jun 14 2004, 04:13 PM
Feh. Lucas should have never re-done the movies.
-Siege
Posted by: Frag-o Delux Jun 14 2004, 04:15 PM
I agree but, life goes on. 
Posted by: Mr.Platinum Jun 14 2004, 04:16 PM
So he did Die, I thought the Cannon of starwars did kill him.
Ha just some feeble blind man? ha what a bitch!
Ha I help hijack my Own Thread!!!!!!!!
JJJJJJJJYYYYYYYYHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDD.
Posted by: Frag-o Delux Jun 14 2004, 04:24 PM
| QUOTE (Mr.Platinum) |
| So he did Die, I thought the Cannon of starwars did kill him. Ha just some feeble blind man? ha what a bitch! Ha I help hijack my Own Thread!!!!!!!! JJJJJJJJYYYYYYYYHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDD. |
Canon did kill him. Until Lucas saw the bounty on the bounty hunters head fromall the die hard Bobba fans. After that Bobba was ressurected to make Lucas richer. I am not sure if Bobba had a lot of fans befoe the books, I am sure he had enough to make books a possible cash machine but, I figure his popularity in th eSW univrse has drmamtically increased with the novels. Supposedly Lucas had a lot of back story for all his characters. He just didn't call Bobba the most feared BH in the Galaxy to make him sound scarry (actually he did but gave him a good back story as to why).
Posted by: CountZero Jun 14 2004, 06:12 PM
| QUOTE (BitBasher) |
| And according to Lucas, Boba Fett officially died in the sarlacc pit. Boba Fett is dead. None of the books are canon according to Lucas. All Boba Fett did was follow Han, he didn't even capture him. He needed Vader there with a pile of Storm troopers. I may be wrong but I don't think Fett won a single fight in the movies. |
Got a cite on this? Reason being Lucas was calling the shots to some degree in the NJO novels (in fact, he personally said they had to kill someone off in the first book, vetoed the choice of Luke, and approved the choice of Chewbacca to be the victim). Not to mention that
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But bringing this back once again to On Topic, what could be done for a Bounty Hunter campaign, in the sense of Bail Bondsmen and Bond Enforcement agents and so forth is taking a page or too out of the Stephanie Plum Novels. If one thinks about it, the character of Ranger could be concidered to be a modern day Shadowrunner. The PCs could be the ones sent after the really, really big bounties that the Bail Bondsman the PCs are looking for wants back yesterday. And there are the little side bounties that can make little sub-plots for the PCs 'cause they need cash (getting the guy who was charged for Indecent Exposure whose in his apartment and smeared himself with Vasiline to make it more difficult for the PCS to grab him.)
If I had a group, I would try to make a campaign out of this, but... well, I don't have a group ATM.
Posted by: Kanada Ten Jun 14 2004, 11:05 PM
In the Underworld sourcebook, Lone Star is supposedly pursuing cases against Chimera (a group of assassins). Their lack of enthusiasm at tracking down the organization made one poster comment (and I paraphrase):
"And why should they? Lone Star is a corp, too. You don't eliminate an asset like Chimera; you use it."
I always liked that line.
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