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Posted by: Ninj Jun 17 2004, 07:14 PM

Hi. If a mage who is astral projecting and is doing overwatch for a SR group infilitrating a building then can the astrally projected cast spells against people in the physical world??

Combat would be a good example of this. If the mage cast a stun ball or elemental manipulation spell to effect people in the physical world then would the spell(s) work against physical objects/people??

Posted by: Backgammon Jun 17 2004, 07:16 PM

No, a mage can only cast on things in the same plane as himself. An astrally projecting mage can only affect astral beings, or dual-natured beings.

Posted by: Gordon Jun 17 2004, 07:19 PM

An astrally projecting magician can't even Conjure spirits, either, IIRC (as both Projecting and Conjuring are deemed Exclusive actions)

Posted by: Backgammon Jun 17 2004, 07:21 PM

Correct. You can, however, give commands to spirits while projecting. You cannot summon or call from stand-by any spirit, but if they were around before you project, you can give them orders normally.

Posted by: Gordon Jun 17 2004, 07:34 PM

Yeah.

Since an astrally projecting magician is pretty useless on the physical realm, I've found an Ally Spirit performs this task well -since it can not only perform astral overwatc, but in a pinch it can materialize and provide additional support on the physical realm.

Posted by: tisoz Jun 18 2004, 11:15 AM

Summoning (when one first conjures) is exclusive, but calling or commanding a spirit is not exclusive, and so both can be done while projecting.

SR3, p.186

Posted by: Ninj Jun 18 2004, 12:53 PM

So, in other words. If my mage character wants to help protect the SR runners in my group through astral projection then I will have to summon some spirits (elementals in my case since I am a hermetic mage and not a shaman) to do combat for me.

The only exception is using spells against any astrally perceiving or dual-natured creatures if I get that lucky.

Posted by: Mr.Platinum Jun 18 2004, 01:04 PM

And when a mage cast spells in the astral, that mage takes physical damage instead of stun.

Posted by: Gordon Jun 18 2004, 01:38 PM

QUOTE (Mr.Platinum)

And when a mage cast spells in the astral, that mage takes physical damage instead of stun.

Yup. I forgot to mention that...