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Posted by: theartthief Jun 18 2004, 07:40 PM

I tried to search on this but kept getting error messages.

Could a paraplegic mage control his own body with animate object?

I have two thoughts on this:

1) The paraplegic flaw says that it can't be fixed by magic and that's that.

2) Sure, why not. If it can move a solid statue why not a person who is infinately better designed to bend? Just throw in some +2 (+4?) TN and a quickness check now and again since the mage would actually be moving the clothing and not the the person.

Thoughts?

- theartthief

Posted by: Phaeton Jun 18 2004, 07:53 PM

...Why not just use Levitate?

Posted by: Cursedsoul Jun 18 2004, 07:56 PM

Because a floating cripple will scare the bejeezus out of Normie McNormalson. biggrin.gif

"Say Al, is that Stephen Hawkings floating in mid-air?"
"Why yes it is."
"Do you want to panic or should I?"

Posted by: theartthief Jun 18 2004, 07:56 PM

Well, I was going more for the walk around and drink a glass of water with friends type thing.

- theartthief

Posted by: Cursedsoul Jun 18 2004, 08:01 PM

You need to gain the fine motor reflexes that the brain is capable of.

Perhaps you could use magic to create a temporary pathway for the neurons to send their impulses to, because doesn't parapalegic mean you simply lost the connecting nerves and can't re-grow them?

While it can't be FIXED with magic, it doesn't say it can't be REPLICATED so I'd say sure its possible. Probably let you walk around in a somewhat jerky manner until you get really used to it, but then it'd be fine with friends and family.

Under stressful situations like a troll charging you with a dikoted halberd, you're not going to be able to do that and do other things I'd say, so you better have a wheelchair under your ass.

Honestly I say just hire out a troll to carry you piggy back.

Hell, you can probably get a blind, mute troll for like, half price and then pay for a seeing-eye midget with the fiscal gain. grinbig.gif

Posted by: Madda_Gaska Jun 18 2004, 08:46 PM

Why not just pay for the world's strongest night one (brown haired only need apply) with a problem causing excessive hair growth?

Of course, you'd then have to paint/bioware yourself golden and act like an idiot, but it can't be ruled out.

Posted by: Phaeton Jun 18 2004, 08:48 PM

And you also need a physmage/psionicist with a Laserblade spell anchor and blonde hair. grinbig.gif

Posted by: shadd4d Jun 19 2004, 02:17 AM

QUOTE (theartthief)
I tried to search on this but kept getting error messages.

Could a paraplegic mage control his own body with animate object?

I have two thoughts on this:

1) The paraplegic flaw says that it can't be fixed by magic and that's that.

2) Sure, why not. If it can move a solid statue why not a person who is infinately better designed to bend? Just throw in some +2 (+4?) TN and a quickness check now and again since the mage would actually be moving the clothing and not the the person.

Thoughts?

- theartthief

You're forgetting the "object" part. While a paraplegic may be an object, it doesn't qualify as an inanimate object per the spell description.

Don

Posted by: Kanada Ten Jun 19 2004, 03:12 AM

Animate Body (Manipulation)
Physical - Caster Only - 4/6 - Sustained - +2(L)
Every two successes grants one point of Quickness and Strength to the caster's immobile limbs up to the Force. The spell's threshold is 1/2 Body. The target number is 4 for paraplegics and 6 for quadriplegics.

Posted by: Ancient History Jun 19 2004, 03:19 AM

Boys and girls, what is wrong with the Levitate spell? Seriously. If you're a parapalegic or, Gnu forbid, a quadripalegic, then your limbs are pretty much crap anyways. They'd never support you. So you might as well levitate.

Posted by: Phaeton Jun 19 2004, 03:35 AM

QUOTE (Cursedsoul)
Because a floating cripple will scare the bejeezus out of Normie McNormalson. biggrin.gif

"Say Al, is that Stephen Hawkings floating in mid-air?"
"Why yes it is."
"Do you want to panic or should I?"

That's why, AH. biggrin.gif

Posted by: eidolon Jun 19 2004, 03:40 AM

QUOTE (Cursedsoul)
"Say Al, is that Stephen Hawkings floating in mid-air?"
"Why yes it is."
"Do you want to panic or should I?"

rotfl.gif That's the best laugh I've had all day! rotfl.gif

Thanks cyber.gif

Posted by: Thistledown Jun 19 2004, 03:15 PM

A friend had a character who used levitate and magic fingers for his quadrapalegic monkey shaman. Had them both on sustaining focuses that he cast every morning.

Did use animate to make a train's caboose dance a jig with guards inside though.

Posted by: Frag-o Delux Jun 19 2004, 03:36 PM

Why would anyone panic more over a crippled levitateing? Is it because they know he has 2 or 4 extra build points and there fore might know another spell all the other levitateing mages might not know?

Posted by: Modesitt Jun 19 2004, 03:51 PM

If you think pigs flying is bad news, just imagine how bad of news a flying cripple is. You see a cripple flying, you're going to start getting flashbacks to all those times you said "When pigs fly". If there are CRIPPLES flying, there's probably a flying pig somewhere too.

Posted by: Zazen Jun 19 2004, 04:21 PM

QUOTE (theartthief)
Just throw in some +2 (+4?) TN and a quickness check now and again since the mage would actually be moving the clothing and not the the person.

I bet that's real comfortable, being picked up by your underwear.

Posted by: Misfit Toy Jun 19 2004, 04:36 PM

I don't understand why some of you are assuming Magic Fingers won't work. It should work just fine. It would effectively give your legs a Strength and Quickness equal to the number of successes of the spell, up to the force of the spell, and in exchange you have to concentrate to walk (and requiring a Quickness Test with a +2 modifier).

Just make it Caster Only or something and call it Magic Legs and you're set. No new spells or rules required.

Posted by: Phaeton Jun 20 2004, 01:16 AM

QUOTE (Zazen)
QUOTE (theartthief @ Jun 18 2004, 02:40 PM)
Just throw in some +2 (+4?) TN and a quickness check now and again since the mage would actually be moving the clothing and not the the person.

I bet that's real comfortable, being picked up by your underwear.

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