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Dumpshock Forums _ Shadowrun _ Police/taxi separation panels

Posted by: Catsnightmare Nov 1 2004, 10:53 PM

Since i have a PC with a used LS Americar turned taxi and a possible run scenario in a the back of a police car, I'm looking for suggestions (or even a book reference if there is one.) for the armor or even barrier rating for the panel used to separate the front and back seats of police cars and/or taxi cabs in the rougher big cities.

Posted by: Fortune Nov 1 2004, 11:11 PM

Isn't there a rating for typical bullet-proof glass type material listed in canon?

Posted by: mfb Nov 1 2004, 11:15 PM

i'd just use bullet-proof glass, yeah.

Posted by: Catsnightmare Nov 1 2004, 11:42 PM

D'oh! (smacks forehead)

I must be having a no-brainer lately to not think of that.

Thanks for the replys.

Posted by: Fortune Nov 1 2004, 11:51 PM

'Tis what we're here for.

Posted by: mmu1 Nov 1 2004, 11:53 PM

I don't know what police cars use for the partition, but cabs just seem to use 1/4 inch lexan.

Coincidentally, there was a Mythbusters episode on yesterday in which they checked just how "bulletproof" the 1/4 inch lexan they frequently use as blast shields when expecting debris really is.

It turns out you can sneeze hard and make a hole in it - it wouldn't even stop an unjacketed .22 rimfire round.

Now, that doesn't mean that SR cabs can't use stronger stuff, but in real life, those partitions are only any good if the guy attacking you has a knife. Or an air rifle.

Posted by: Luke Hardison Nov 2 2004, 02:36 AM

Our officers call them spit guards, and I think that's appropriate. I seriously doubt that they would stop a hard punch, but they might put up enough resistance to protect the officer long enough to get the situation at hand. That's why no one gets in the back seat without being searched and placed in handcuffs, double locked.
(which doesn't actually indicate that they're more secure, but anyway ...)

Posted by: Catsnightmare Nov 2 2004, 03:35 AM

QUOTE (Luke Hardison)

That's true, but in keeoing with the Shdowrun universe I figured they'd be much upgraded and improved, considering things like higher metahuman strengths, cyber and bioware strength improvements that may not be easily detectable, concealed cyberguns, dikote spurs, etc. I'm pretty sure law enforcement companies would have something more substancial between the officers and their detainees.

Posted by: toturi Nov 2 2004, 03:55 AM

Provided that the panels are cost effective (ie cheap). I'm sure law enforcement companies are more concerned with their profit margins.

Posted by: Ed Simons Nov 2 2004, 02:56 PM

If someone in the back seat can use their cyber and/or metahuman strength to break though to the front, there's a good chance the vehicle will end up crashing in the stuggle. That can get expensive for the police corporation.

Posted by: mmu1 Nov 2 2004, 03:04 PM

QUOTE (Ed Simons)

That's assuming it's standard operating procedure for Lone Star to load cybered individuals, as well as the beefier dwarves and orcs (let's not even talk about trolls) into the back of their patrol cars.

Realistically speaking, it's a lot more likely that in addition to their normal cars they'd have a fleet of vans designed specifically to handle trolls and other high risk prisoners, and would call those in as needed.

Posted by: toturi Nov 2 2004, 03:09 PM

Shock plates are built into the backseats, IIRC.