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Posted by: Mauler Jan 28 2006, 01:01 AM

http://www.1w6.de/rpg/sr/map/ is a Google map that shows most of the meeting points in Seattle from the Seattle Sourcebook, like bars and restaurants and other public locations.
Nothing fancy, but maybe you have some use for it.

Edit: http://www.1w6.de/rpg/sr/num_loc.php

Posted by: warrior_allanon Jan 28 2006, 02:37 AM

it wants me to use IE, i absolutely refuse to use IE

Posted by: mattness pl Jan 28 2006, 12:37 PM

QUOTE (warrior_allanon)
it wants me to use IE, i absolutely refuse to use IE

It works under http://opera.com/, too.


Good work, Mauler smile.gif


Posted by: Aku Jan 28 2006, 12:40 PM

I'm so not installing a third browser. I nly keep IE around because of the (rare) site that requires it, and will only use it if it's for something official. or that i absolutely need.

Posted by: September Jan 28 2006, 09:00 PM

I love you. In a purely platonic way, I love you.

Posted by: Adam Jan 29 2006, 06:01 AM

QUOTE (mattness pl)
QUOTE (warrior_allanon @ Jan 28 2006, 04:37 AM)
it wants me to use IE, i absolutely refuse to use IE

It works under http://opera.com/, too.

Many versions of Opera, by default, sends it's user-agent string to web servers falsely -- it tells the web server that it's IE. I'm pretty sure that there's a plugin for Firefox that will let you spoof your user-agent in such a way, as well.

I'm not sure why the page is designed to only accept IE, though ... Google Maps is compatible with the http://local.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=16532&topic=1499, not just IE.

Posted by: SL James Jan 29 2006, 08:03 AM

OMG... You got IE on me. Get it off! Get it off! AHhhhhh!

Seriously, doesn't anyone just use Firefox? Dave Hyatt is my god.

Posted by: warrior_allanon Jan 29 2006, 04:18 PM

i do and it still asked for IE

Posted by: Dashifen Jan 30 2006, 04:17 PM

http://ietab.mozdev.org/, for all your "I need to load a page in IE within a FireFox tab" needs.

Posted by: Adam Jan 30 2006, 04:31 PM

Windows-only, of course.

Posted by: Adam Jan 30 2006, 04:43 PM

Just for reference, I visited the map using IE for OSX, then saved it as a HTML file to my hard drive and replaced it with my very own Google Maps API key [google maps are somewhat locked to the domain they're hosted on] and opened it in both Safari and Firefox without a problem.

Posted by: Jrayjoker Jan 30 2006, 06:15 PM

[whisper]Pst, Adam. Your geek is showing.[/whisper]

Posted by: Adam Jan 30 2006, 07:26 PM

Yeah well. Being a geek is about solving problems, and IMO, something arbitrarily locked to one browser for no fathomable reason is a problem. I think the map is cool and would like to promote it, but I'd like to wait for it to be more useful -- that is, cross browser/platform compatible -- before doing so.

Posted by: CeaDawg Jan 30 2006, 08:13 PM

It is very nice, but it's locked in position. no scrolly scrolly N or S, E or W to view surrounding areas. I'm working on getting server space for us to host map data. TNT Mips is proving useful for creating maps based off of GE. GE doesn't allow for producing overlays of non registered info such as GM info for toxic zones & gang territories or marking boundaries of SR world geopolitical boundaries instead of the RL ones.

Posted by: Mauler Jan 30 2006, 11:40 PM

Sorry about the IE thing, I'll look into it.
It's a work in progress... I'll add more locations every once in a while.

@CeaDawg: Just click into the map and drag it to scroll. You can also double click it to re-center. Zoom is on the upper left.

Posted by: CeaDawg Jan 31 2006, 05:25 AM

Played with the mouse drag on the map. It works, but is cumbersome when zoomed in, noticed some of the push pins vanish, & don't refresh in the new location on the screen, when you drag quickly for the full width of the page. This may need to be directed to the Google Maps team instead. I'm going to try generating some other map areas to see if it repeats.

Posted by: CeaDawg Feb 4 2006, 02:13 AM

I sent a bug report off to Google. It appears the disappearing landmark issue is within their environment. I first told a friend of mine that works for a GIS company, & he said it's a problem they've been trying to work around for their online atlas.

Posted by: runefire32 Feb 4 2006, 04:23 AM

QUOTE (SL James)
OMG... You got IE on me. Get it off! Get it off! AHhhhhh!

Seriously, doesn't anyone just use Firefox? Dave Hyatt is my god.

bleh firefox...the one browser i've found, that tons of people use, that doesn't fully properly read or display HTML...BASIC HTML... much less handle javascript, or css in a resonable way...

yes i use ie...in a wraper... all the benefits of using ie...with all the benefits that firefox gives you...without all the stupid stuff that goes along with using firefox!

Posted by: weblife Feb 7 2006, 02:20 PM

Firefox is inferior. biggrin.gif

Get over the monopoly complex. Join the borg. cyber.gif

Posted by: TinkerGnome Feb 7 2006, 03:23 PM

I can count on one hand the number of non-Microsoft sites that I use that don't display properly in Firefox. For those, I have a nice little extension that adds an "open this page in IE" option to the context menu. How do you browse without tabs, ad blocking, and mouse guestures (extensions required)?

IE 7 will probably incorporate all the things I like about Firefox and other third party browsers, though, so after it's initial burn-in, I may go back. Until the third party folks catch up and surpass again, at least.

Posted by: Aku Feb 7 2006, 03:37 PM

I so don't get the "firefox is broke" line, i dont ever see any thing that makes me think "this doesnt look right".

Posted by: TinkerGnome Feb 7 2006, 03:56 PM

It occurs to me that I could just get a copy of the IE7 beta and look to see what it fixes/breaks. Maybe I'll do that in a bit.

Posted by: brennanhawkwood Feb 7 2006, 04:03 PM

QUOTE (Aku)
I so don't get the "firefox is broke" line, i dont ever see any thing that makes me think "this doesnt look right".

YMMV, but in my experience I have found that most of the cases where Firefox "doesn't work right" its because the site used proprietary extensions to HTML/etc. that are not part of the official standards. One thing the Mozilla people seem to be really careful about is following the actual standards rather than doing whatever they think might appeal to people (or supports their own internal work habits). Thus, in most of those cases, one could argue that it is not Firefox that is broken, but the site you are trying to view.

And more on topic...that Seattle map is spectacular...I'm definately watching for any updates you might make.

Posted by: Mauler Feb 8 2006, 12:45 PM

Should work with FF now.
Tested with 1.5.0.1.

Posted by: Mauler Feb 10 2006, 03:03 PM

I added a new http://www.1w6.de/rpg/sr/map/?borders=on. Doesn't zoom very deep, though.

Posted by: Deadjester Feb 12 2006, 07:57 AM

I wish it could zoom better so I can pick the dots easier but other then that, great job on what you did, its been really helpful.

Its been a great for our players and has helped them get a better idea of what our GM has been trying to describe to them during game play.

So good job and thanks =)

Posted by: Mauler Feb 12 2006, 01:35 PM

Many thanks for your feedback. smile.gif
For deeper zoom levels you have to switch to the other views for now, but I'll work on it some more when I have some time on my hands.

Posted by: Mr.Platinum Feb 12 2006, 03:36 PM

Yeah it's nto to bad but then i used the option of add next 100 dots and the it was fine.

Posted by: Lividicus Feb 21 2006, 01:02 AM

I really like the map but where is the old Renraku arcology on this map lol

Posted by: MK Ultra Feb 21 2006, 01:19 AM

one of the red squares in downtown (the bigger one, right next to the club penumbra) the other one is the Aztech Pyramide.

Posted by: Mauler Mar 7 2006, 10:47 AM

Minor update. I added a http://www.1w6.de/rpg/sr/map/?borders=on&zoom=6 to the Borders View, which is a bit more detailed (duh).
I hope you like it.

Edit: You think I should keep up the work, or do you think it's not worth the effort?

Posted by: CeaDawg Mar 7 2006, 11:38 PM

Oh, it's most definitely worth the effort. It may end up being that it becomes a team effort due to size & scope, but still worth the effort.

Posted by: John_Wicker Mar 13 2006, 07:26 PM

If there is anything I can do to help add to this, please let us know. I'm sure there are several people on the boards who would be willing to jump in.

Posted by: Mauler Mar 14 2006, 05:56 PM

Thanks for the feedback.
Also, thanks for the offer, I'll get back to you if I need anything.
For now, I have added yet another http://www.1w6.de/rpg/sr/map/?borders=on&zoom=5.
Let me know what you think.

Posted by: Trobon Mar 16 2006, 09:39 AM

I love it. Thank you so much for the time put into it. I live in Seattle and love to see what has taken over what spots in the last 65 years {There's a hotel where a concert hall used to be =( } I bplann on using this in my games to come

Posted by: mattness pl Mar 16 2006, 03:18 PM

Mauler - how you do that?

It's awesome, man.
Really great smile.gif

Posted by: Mauler Mar 17 2006, 10:37 AM

Thanks for the feedback and the kind words. Fuels my motivation to keep doing this. I'll try to make this as useful as possible.
As you may have noticed I added some major Gangs to the map, along with more locations. More than 200 now... yay! I also color-coded the locations to make identification a bit easier.
Red is for bars, nightclubs and restaurants,
Teal is for hotels,
Purplish blue is for business stuff like corps and such,
Pink is for government buildings,
Green for medical facilities,
And the dark brownish ones are for general attractions and other miscellaneous stuff.

Posted by: Mauler Mar 21 2006, 11:20 PM

Ok, right now there are 322 locations in there, plus the basic gang stuff.
There aren't many canon locations left, maybe 10 or 20 or so.
I'm taking a break for now, but I appreciate any suggestions for improvement.

Posted by: Platinum Mar 22 2006, 04:59 AM

That is really really awesome .... is there anything that tells us what source book refers to that point? Is it colour coded somehow? I cannot find the legend.

Posted by: Mauler Mar 22 2006, 09:17 AM

The legend for the colors is 3 posts above this one.
Sourcebooks used are the original Seattle Sourcebook with some changes from New Seattle added.

Posted by: Platinum Mar 22 2006, 03:19 PM

my apologies. Is there any way to get the legend posted on the site as a layer?

Posted by: Paul Mar 22 2006, 05:06 PM

Will you be addig the locations from Adam's sig?

Posted by: Mauler Mar 22 2006, 10:04 PM

@Paul: Good idea... Maybe I should let the user choose what to display... canon stuff or community stuff or both... the script gets a bit heavy with so many locations, but I'll look into it. I just need a break right now. Maybe Runner Havens will have some changes for me to include, too...
@Platinum: No problem. I'll try to include a legend of some sort in the future.

Posted by: Paul Mar 23 2006, 06:06 AM

Yeah we wrote up like 100 plus locations. Feel free to add them, at your leisure. I think this is a pretty damn cool idea, and I have to say I am thankful you did all of the hard work on this-I couldn't, as I don't have the skill. But I'll admire your work and spread word of it.

Posted by: Mauler Apr 10 2006, 09:31 AM

Minor update: I used a frame to add a legend to the map along with the options to hide location and/or gang info. Also, the canon location count is at 334 now.
I'm still looking into adding the TSS locations as an option, but many addresses of the TSS locations are a bit... uhm... difficult to track down.

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