Just a warning and I'm not pointing fingers (Well Actually I am). Please don't email Randy Milholland about anything to do with Shadowrun or Dumpshock. Randy doesn't visit this forum and sending him an email asking if he's X or Y or Z is just going to incur his wrath and your public humilation......
You've been warned....Yang Gu.....aka Emo Samurai......
Emailing Randy about Shadowrun is like sticking your finger up an Aligator's hind side....Your just going to make him angry..... You've been warned.
He's a visible public figure, and random emails are an occupational hazard.
~J
If you want to be made fun of in open public go right ahead........I'm just sending out a warning....
http://kobold.livejournal.com
Reading that email, I suspect "shadowrun" and "dumpshock" had very little to do with the response it got. Or is there some prior antagonism here? I seem to remember him liking Shadowrun.
~J
Randy like SR.....He has a morbid love/hate relationship with his fans....That email was a random email sent to him.....He posts "random" emails that annoy the smeg out of him.
Randy + Shadowrun = good
Randy + Shadowrun + Fans = bad
The moral of the story is "Don't be a dumbass or you'll get stung". That's all I'm saying.....
Some his Wicca hatemail was made into desktop wallpaper.......
No, I really think the equation is just Randy + Emo = bad. I mean, think about how Randy presents himself—do you really think he'd react positively to someone calling themselves "emo samurai" no matter what the subject matter? Not to mention the fact that he gave permission for Randy to be whoever he wants on a message board, except for two people who would be totally unfamiliar to any non-member—it's obviously a joke when read with a calm mind, but I could see how someone with an already-negative reaction in progress might see it as stupidity.
~J
I do love the irony of posters on a webcomic board calling posters on an RPG board stupid and lame. Reminds me of a Pot & Kettle getting in a flame war.
We're lame?
My world is crumbling.
Hmmm, it's either that, or I need more coffee. It's hard to tell the difference sometimes.
Coffee = Always a good idea
| QUOTE (stevebugge) |
| I do love the irony of posters on a webcomic board calling posters on an RPG board stupid and lame. Reminds me of a Pot & Kettle getting in a flame war. |
He just didn't get the joke... and I don't think he wanted me to find his LJ.
| QUOTE (emo samurai) |
| He just didn't get the joke... and I don't think he wanted me to find his LJ. |
Ultimately the comments are not so much Randy's. Gamers of all types can be annoying. God knows I know. I personally know Randy and we always kid him about how freaky his fans are. (We have alot of the same friends back in TX....) So yes the fan comments are akin to a Prostitute telling you to be celibate.
I think the point of his posting is, "Hey Emo Samurai: Don't be a dumbass....." That's the ultimate "point" to his posting. Don't be a dumbass.
So you could say this thread is intended to tell Emo,"Hey don't be a dumbass"....That's why I posted it.
Yeah his fans calling dumpshockers "nerds ect." has about as much credit to it as a lemming telling you about the aerodynamics of flying and how good they are at it.
Besides Aubrey use to play in my Shadowrun campaign in highschool. So "it's all good"....My point is don't send Randy stupid emails or you may be made the topic of discussion......Randy is very "dumbass intolerant".
Don't worry about his fans...They're entitled to they're views... Even if the validity may be fleeting.
Emo,
Humor in general is difficult to pass along in an email. I think the point is that HE DID want you to find his posting. That's my point.....
Don't sweat it Emo.
From what I read, you kinda kicked ass over there.
Your Emo Leetness inspires me.
/kowtow
Thank you. You now have honor and shit.
And as for his fans, I think I'm on okay terms now with the ones I didn't flame egregiously.
After reading this moronic spiel, I felt compelled to speak up in defense of Dumpshock, given that emo has damaged our apparently already shitty reputations.
Emo, screw off and stop e-mailing people you don't even know and giving them shit. You send something like that, and you wonder why he's so snappy?
I'm not giving Randy shit per se, just the people who actually insulted me bandwagon-style. Him being pissed I can understand; he was the one e-mailed. But the other people are basically on the intellectual and social level of a bunch of idiots cheering on a dude in a street fight.
And are you the dude who just posted on his bl0g? Why are you so fucking concerned?
| QUOTE (emo samurai) |
| Why are you so fucking concerned? |
**We** are concerned because you perpetuate a bad stereotype that we do not want to be associated with. I do not want to continually attack you, and I am finding that I am wearing out my backspace key deleting the venomous comments that you inspire, but you are making it increasingly harder to not disparage you.
How am I stereotypical? I thought the reason people didn't like my campaign ideas was because they were weird.
No, the campaign ideas, that was okay. We sometimes have off the wall stuff. It's your presentation that wears a bit thin.
???
Lemme put it this way: you've read S*P, right emo?
You sound like Mike (the blond-haired gamer nerd) before he learned social skills.
I'm not a misogynist, and I've never watched my brother beat off to gay porn. I don't argue with other nerds over nerddom bullshit unless it's to say "this is my fucking campaign, stop being a canon dickwad." And I've never complained about being a "nice guy without a girlfriend." And I NEVER complain about how the published material is vastly inferior to my stuff; in fact, I think pretty much everyone here does that more than I do.
Pretty much the only thing left is that you think I'm weird, and that's just bullshit.
Emo if you read any of Randy's comics you should have known better. This all your fault for acting immature. Seriously, I'm not saying your are a dumbass only that you acted in a manner that was l like poking a rabid wolverine with a stick while playing stop the pups on said wolverines offspring.
If you don't want to be made fun of maybe you shouldn’t send Randy emails......At least don't send Randy emails of the aforementioned caliber. Randy has about as much patience for silly and stupid emails as a Parent teacher's association has for the Pedophile of the month club.
Sorry to rag on you so hard but dude just mark it off as a learning experience and move on. There's no way you can defend your actions or that anyone cares other than move on and admit you did something silly. The damage is done move along.
The more you try to defend yourself, the more immature you look. Just move on, you F***ed up. It's okay, just forget it or your going to make the problem worse.
Dude, I'm okay. If I was afraid of being ragged on by people over the internet, I would've stopped posting here.
And I really, really don't care how "immature I look." I'm just trying to make a point.
In high school, I'd put posters around the buildlings at night with random sayings on them, some of them philosophical, and some of them silly, one of which is the first line of my sig. One friend of mine told me that if people didn't understand my philosophy, it was worthless. I responded by saying that if people didn't understand my philosophy, they were worthless. It's the same thing here.
or maybe we just don't agree with your point.
That's valid if backed up.
And what's the point that you disagree with on the journal?
| QUOTE (emo samurai @ May 23 2006, 12:36 PM) |
| I don't argue with other nerds over nerddom bullshit |
| QUOTE (emo samurai) |
| That's valid if backed up. And what's the point that you disagree with on the journal? |
| QUOTE (Kagetenshi) | ||
Arguing over whether or not a given minor character in a minor webcomic is an accurate portrayal of you counts ~J |
why should i even bother answering that? even if i manage to guess what whacky-ass 'point' you were trying to make with that inanity, you'll just say "no, it was something else, lol ur dumb!" the truth is, i have long since given up trying to figure out why you do anything you do. some of it is for shock value, i think; some of it is genuine stupidery; and some of it is for shock value attempting to cover up genuine stupidery. differentiating between them is not a profitable use of my time.
understand, i'm not singling you out. i could lambast other users similarly. but they don't ask for it.
| QUOTE (mfb) |
| understand, i'm not singling you out. i could lambast other users similarly. but they don't ask for it. |
I meant exactly what I spent about three paragraphs explaining on that board.
indeed. a large number of the posts emo makes are designed, it seems to me, to make sure any discussion of their content is mostly about emo himself. FanGirl's posts are often similar, except they direct attention at emo rather than herself. i'm honestly not 100% convinced that FanGirl isn't just emo posting under a different name.
I've been ~70% convinced since ?she started posting, but haven't had time or energy to ponder it further.
~J
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| a large number of the posts emo makes are designed, it seems to me, to make sure any discussion of their content is mostly about emo himself. |
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| i'm honestly not 100% convinced that FanGirl isn't just emo posting under a different name. |
it's not what you post, it's how you post it. and as far as 'syntaxes and writing styles'... no they're not.
They aren't?
I read over parts of her diary, and the reason I write like her when I explain stuff is because it's, well, expository writing. I'm sure she's never posted all caps, and I would never admit that I'm simply the product of a superior educational system rather than being awesomely smart.
And you're not like Mike in SP because?????
The more you post the more you convince me you are clones.....
Stop feeding the self absorbed troll with multiple personalities.
Emo: Read "How to win friends and influence people". Then come back and post.
How are those supposed to make people genuine friends? All that does is make you a pleasant idiot like everybody else. It's boring, and it would make me boring. "Let the other person feel that the idea is his or hers?" "Use their name a lot?" No, I don't want to treat anybody I would call a friend like that.
Oh, and I read the summaries; whenever the author comes out and says he's making 5 points, his book can be summarized by 5 sentences.
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| I thought that the all-caps thread title [...] would be okay |
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| One friend of mine told me that if people didn't understand my philosophy, it was worthless. |
You're right; I lapsed most egregiously and must atone for my sins. I have forever shattered the orderly progression of this board with that thread.
troll food removed. practice what you preach.
I've seen far too many people use the principles in that book to replace anything resembling a personality they might have had. It seems to have the creepy sterility of a Scientology pamphlet.
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| BTW: quick lesson a pleasant idiot is more tolerable than an obtuse ass. |
*sigh*
The biggest sign of your insecurity(edit:immaturity?), emo, is that you always rise to the bait.
If you truly don't care what others think of you, then stop responding to the criticisms. Just keep your threads on topic & respond only to constructive criticism and honest discourse. That will raise your perceived maturity level faster than anything else I can think of.
I think you are probably a very enthusiastic, creative guy irl. I've known many like you over the years and most were my friends. Admittedly, I had to take breaks from these friends from time to time, but still....
For the record, I do not believe that Fan Girl is an emo alt. Too much forethought goes into her posts....
I pride myself on my lack of forethought!
And your advice is valid.
I also have to realize that many people's criticisms aren't really centered around logic; I guess I'll have to deal with that by being above their concerns about penis size.
Just shut up troll.
Oooh, nerve cluster.
| QUOTE (emo samurai @ May 23 2006, 10:51 AM) |
| I also have to realize that many people's criticisms aren't really centered around logic; I guess I'll have to deal with that by being above their concerns about penis size. |
No, I just have to sort out the wheat from the chaff. I'll still respond to 80% of responses. Just to clear things up.
I'll have to fix that, I was specifically refering to the argument structure of the last statement. I had a professor repeatedly call me on it my freshman year in college.
I get that; I was more referring to the fact that I can't convince some people with logic and they are just devoted to stalking me throughout my "whacked out ideas" threads.
You know, like Dranem.
| QUOTE (emo samurai) |
| Oooh, nerve cluster. |
Nice job on the maturity.
How many threads are currently in existence on Dumpshock with the sole purpose of dealing with Emo in some capacity?
I can't hate him. I don't ever post (well, hardly ever) because I care far more about testing the water than taking a swim. Emo makes the water... different. Very different than it was before he got here.
Ten times a day I have to log off because what I just read strikes a negative nerve. 8 times out of those 10, it's from Emo. That's... I don't know. His right, I suppose.
Just as it's my right to go find someplace else to talk ShadowRun where people can get along and self-aggrandizement can take a back seat to legitimate dialogue.
I wanted to say *something* before taking my leave this time, even if what I say has no effect on anything.
I was happier before the fighting. Of course, in one way or another there is NO *before the fighting*-- Emo is the newest iteration of the endless parade of DumpShock BadGuys.
Maybe the internet requires BadGuys to make these discussion forums function. It's a shame, however, that the BadGuys don't bring out the GoodGuys. They just bring out the AmbivalentGuys, the ApatheticGuys, and the CynicalGuys.
Am I a GoodGuy? Hardly. But I can accept that it takes the collective weight of the world's idiots to keep the world spinning on its axis.
I think it would be cool if the GoodGuys (I know you're out there- I've seen you) would rise to the challenge of countering junkthreads with quality threads... and maybe draw the aforementioned Ambivalent/Apathetic/CynicalGuys (and girls) into something more conducive to improving our mutual understanding of ShadowRun, and less conducive to finding out how many ways you can yell at one another before being booted or banned.
I'll get off my undeserved high horse now, before I say anything *else* to make me into a BadGuy.
--PenAgain
Dude, what was said about rising to the bait?
The more you post, emo, the more you do, in fact, sound like "Mike".
-karma
Dude, I'm sorry if it really hurts something you love to read my threads, but I never really pre-emptively attack anyone. It's always "Emo, your idea's not canon. Emo, I hate you. Emo rush kekekekeke." Even the e-mail was sent only after months of dealing with Critias and Dranem. My threads cause chaos because people go there to burn them down more than they go to actually discuss anyone on them.
In other words, DON'T LEAVE WE NEED PEOPLE WHO CARE PLZPLZPLZPLZ!! :.(... (Emo tears)
| QUOTE (emo samurai) |
| My threads cause chaos because people go there to burn them down more than they do to actually discuss anyone on them. |
I'm sure my posts about power armor are VERY offensive.
Which makes me wonder - what the HELL made you POSSIBLY think R.K. Milholland was Critias or Dranem?!
I didn't truly think that. I made a conspiracy joke about how Randy, the most self-describedly curmudgeonly Shadowrun player I know about, being a poster here would account for some of the anal retentiveness around Dumpshock. I don't even dislike him in the least; the fact I check in on his comic daily is a testament to that. Then I e-mailed him on a whim, because g-mail is really easy to access. I saw no harm in doing so, and really, when you think about it rationally, there still isn't any real harm.
So you can't fathom why your e-mail to someone you don't even know personally, accusing him of being two people he likely doesn't even know, was so poorly received?
It was a joke... I still think it's funny.
Would you take it as a joke if the same thing happened to you? Someone you don't even know accusing you of being someone on a board you've probably never visited?
Personally I'd think it'd be weird as hell. About the equivalent of a prank call.
I think this is some kind of mental mastubation for Emo. He seems to feed off it because he thinks that are a pretty much powerless to stop him. He feels invulnerable, and that it is his right to aggitate and annoy people, because he thinks there are no reprocussions. Maybe in this scenario and maybe not, but hopefully, someone with the ability to deal with him, will either explain to him that his behaviour is not acceptable, or just stop him from posting. I have tried to not berrate him because I feel that his personality is not really strong enough to handle it, and he will eventually commit suicide as the places he visits slowly shun him in turn. A quick search will show a pattern and give strong clues as to why he acts like he does. I have moved from irritation to pity for that sad sad soul.
Hey, I have an idea! How about everybody stop feeding the attention whore (or being the attention whore, as the case may be) and talk about Shadowrun?
I'm touched. And I didn't even make a separate thread for this subject; it just happened.
Personally I can't wait to see the comic Milholland does about this whole thing. Inside jokes are always funnier when you're in on it, so I'm anxious to see what he does with this.
ME TOO!!!
And about my awesome idea threads, you could just ignore them or post seriously about them. I would definitely respond in kind if you did. Just trying to get this alien, alien concept out there.
Plus, e-mailing him was the only way to have any chance of knowing for sure.
Who is he? what did he write? Why would I want to bother him?
R.K. Milholland is the creator of the webcomic "Something Positive" (a very funny comic).
As for why emo wanted to bother him...I have no idea.
I did it mostly because I wanted to know for sure whether or not he posted here, and the other 20% of the reason was because I was feeling silly.
WTF? This thread has got me totally confused.
In the first place, considering how acrimonious SP can get, I have no idea why the vaguely negative head hurt comment that Randy Milholland made is supposed to be negative at all. Hell, man, if I post at bullshido.net I'll take far worse flak just as a matter of course.
Second, what the hell is that email about? Why is it relevant? Why do we collectively care that Emo Samurai won't buy crap from the SP store or whatever? Am I missing something?
I don't know; people just hate me. They see a deliberately silly and incoherent e-mail and think of it as a sign that says "Warning, very flammable. I dare you."
As for the OP, he's a friend of Randy, so I guess he's entitled to start the thread. I am the focus of irrational hatred, so I'm entitled to respond. Pretty much everyone else is just a 'net go-ganger. Not counting the innocent bystanders. So for me, they have a "10 points" icon floating over their heads.
Oh sure emo, make this into a persecution complex. The whole world's out to get you.
Now you really DO sound like Mike from S*P - blaming others for the consequences of his own stupid moves.
*Motivational speaker voice* I don't see this as an inquisition, I see this as an opportunity.
And to tell the truth, it's died down over there a LOT more than it has here. There is peace on the LiveJournal-trix.
|/me reads the entire thread out of curiousity|
...?!
Excuse me, I'm going to go lance my eyes out with a pearing knife, right after a self-inflicted cranial adjustment.
Oh, for the love of...
We should post warning signs.
Lack of forthought is the reason why you ran out of feet to stick into your mouth long ago Emo. Seriously if you gave a smidgeon of thought over something before you crap it out all over the boards, you might gain a little more respect.
And as for logic, you are the last one to justify logic applied to thought.
Query: Have you ever been tested for Aspergers Syndrom?
Why does this thread even exist? Seriously, I don't see anything positive coming out of it at all. This is the kind of thing that's PM material, if anything.
| QUOTE (Shrike30) |
| Why does this thread even exist? Seriously, I don't see anything positive coming out of it at all. This is the kind of thing that's PM material, if anything. |
| QUOTE (mfb) |
| a large number of the posts emo makes are designed, it seems to me, to make sure any discussion of their content is mostly about emo himself. FanGirl's posts are often similar, except they direct attention at emo rather than herself. i'm honestly not 100% convinced that FanGirl isn't just emo posting under a different name. |
Get him to change his name?
Seriously ... the image that pops to mind is whenever I see the word 'emo' is either definition three or six.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=emo
No offense to Emo, but a few of his posts seem to fit the criteria for one of those definitions.
Besides, its really hard to take some seriously when their name conjures up images of a bad teen television series.
Again, the question is: what can I say to convince you? 'Cause I don't think there's anything I can do to make Emo change his name short of holding a gun to his head, and that would be just more trouble than it's worth.
Adam could probably check the IP addresses of Fangirl and Emo. If they're widely different, that'd pretty much prove it.
Emo and FanGirl, I've decided to think you're conjoined twins. Will you both be my ally spirit?
Dammit all, this is such a retarded thread. How off topic is this to shadowrun?
Frankly, I don't see how the person who started this thread could possibly look stupider. Even though this seems to have become a hate-Emo fest at least Emo dosen't start random attack threads that are totally off topic.
Fun Fact! Emo and I definitely do not come from the same womb. We don't even come from the same ethnic group: he has 100% Chinese ancestry, but me...let's just say I could have fit in just fine in Nazi Germany, as long as I kept my mouth shut.
I think most of the posters in this thread can be summed up rather easily:
kryton: emo's email wanted attention and he got it. He shouldn't do it again, because if he does he'll get attention.
emo: I do what I do because it amuses me. If you don't like it, too bad. If you flame me for it, expct to be flamed back.
Platinum: People shouldn't feed the trolls. Now if you'll excuse me, I've got a troll to feed. Shut up emo!
mfb: I don't bother responding to stuff, despite the fact that this is a response.
Wounded Ronin: Huh?
HMHVV Hunter: emo really is Mike.
Dranem: What? An emo post? To the flame mobile!
Me: Hey everybody, look how smart I am! I can summarize stuff!
| QUOTE (James McMurray) |
| I think most of the posters in this thread can be summed up rather easily: kryton: emo's email wanted attention and he got it. He shouldn't do it again, because if he does he'll get attention. emo: I do what I do because it amuses me. If you don't like it, too bad. If you flame me for it, expct to be flamed back. Platinum: People shouldn't feed the trolls. Now if you'll excuse me, I've got a troll to feed. Shut up emo! mfb: I don't bother responding to stuff, despite the fact that this is a response. Wounded Ronin: Huh? HMHVV Hunter: emo really is Mike. Dranem: What? An emo post? To the flame mobile! Me: Hey everybody, look how smart I am! I can summarize stuff! |
Nah, no need to lock it now. It isn't in the main SR forum so it'll die soon enough anyway.
Not as long as emo's around.
He summed it up more or less correctly.
Thank you, James. When I take over the world, I will make you in charge of executions.
And how am I emo? I NEVER talk about sensitivity, and I would never wear form-fitting leather pants.
I get the feeling that Milholland may have made his feelings known about that little e-scuffle:
http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp05262006.shtml
I don't know if that's related. emo didn't tell him he was wrong.
Dude, I just asked if he was one of two people I hate. Maybe I should have asked about you; you seem self-conscious enough to be bothered by it.
And thanks again for your fire support, James. A very late thanks.
Discussion over. It serves zero purpose.
Bull
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