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Posted by: Kyoto Kid Jan 6 2007, 12:36 AM

...Yoiks,

I seem to be the only member logged on to DS right now.

Never seen that before.

Posted by: swe_wolfis Jan 6 2007, 12:45 AM

Maybe we all died...or sleeping

Posted by: Kyoto Kid Jan 6 2007, 01:05 AM

...looks more like the Active Users on the Board Stats is still freaking out.

Omigod...Deus is Back & he's looking to seize control of the forum!

Posted by: Demerzel Jan 6 2007, 01:15 AM

The forums are doing some strange things lately. Yesterday I was getting 404'd for any topic I clicked on, but I could view the forum topic lists. Then today, just now while I was browsing I went back to the topic lists and everything was marked read...

[Edit: New =/= read, I guess i'm making mistakes today also.]

Posted by: tisoz Jan 6 2007, 01:24 AM

Posted by: Ancient History Jan 6 2007, 01:33 AM

A little known fact, but freelancers hibernate during the winter months...

Posted by: bclements Jan 6 2007, 01:53 AM

Posted by: BookWyrm Jan 6 2007, 02:28 AM

We wait, reclining within shadows, silently observing until interest is piqued, then we make our presence known.

Posted by: Adam Jan 6 2007, 02:41 AM

Posted by: Ancient History Jan 6 2007, 03:01 AM

Posted by: eidolon Jan 6 2007, 03:47 AM

Moved to bugs. Related post can be found here: http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=16141

Thanks for pointing this stuff out. Per Adam, this stuff is being looked at over the weekend. There was a change made to the software running on the server that houses Dumpshock, so there are a few small things going on.

Posted by: Demerzel Jan 6 2007, 06:58 PM

So what you're sayin is that it is a Bug that the Freelancers hibernate all winter?

Posted by: bclements Jan 6 2007, 08:58 PM

Not a bug, a feature!

Posted by: Kyoto Kid Jan 6 2007, 09:47 PM

..ahh, just like all those wonderful Windows "features". I got it.

Posted by: Bull Jan 7 2007, 11:22 AM

WOuld you kids knock off all that racket? I can;t sleep over here with all this yellin' and carrying on!



Bull

Posted by: Moon-Hawk Jan 9 2007, 04:36 PM

Just want to make sure that no one is under the mistaken impression that this has been fixed.

Posted by: Demerzel Jan 9 2007, 04:50 PM

Yep, they're still snoozing...


Oh, you mean the wacky board stuff...

Posted by: Erebus Jan 9 2007, 07:43 PM

I can only seem to get to the site from my work account. No go from the home comcast thing..

Traceroutes die at the visi-gw from the problem source.

Methinks its a filter or a return path issue.

Posted by: Moon-Hawk Jan 11 2007, 04:11 PM

I tried switching browsers for a day yesterday to see if it helped.
It didn't.
Still doing it. Is there something I could possibly be doing differently to fix this? It's pretty annoying not being able to tell easily which posts I've read.

Posted by: Adam Jan 11 2007, 04:15 PM

I assume you've done the usual stuff like clearing cookies and whatnot? Which browsers have you tried?

Posted by: Fortune Jan 11 2007, 04:17 PM

Well, for myself, I'm using Firefox 1.5.09, and yes, I have done the cookie/whatnot thing to no effect.

Posted by: Moon-Hawk Jan 11 2007, 04:24 PM

Ha! I'm using Firefox 1.5.0.9 as well! Funny. (slightly)
Yesterday I used IE 7.0.5730.11, and aside from some blood running down the walls and thousands of damned souls pouring forth from my computer from some dark place nothing was really different. *shrug*
I thought I had tried clearing cookies, but it turns out I didn't have that box checked on my clear private data option (which I HAD tried, thinking I was clearing the cookies), so I did it now.

Posted by: Adam Jan 11 2007, 04:38 PM

Hrm. I just fired up Firefox -- 1.5.0.9, logged into my other account, hit "mark all as read", closed FF, re-opened it, and everything was marked as read. I waited a few minutes for someone to post to a thread, and then manually visited that thread. It was marked as read. I closed FF again, re-opened it again, and everything was still marked as read.

Wacky.

Posted by: eidolon Jan 11 2007, 05:18 PM

Adam,

Isn't that exactly the way it should function? (Or is that what you're saying is wacky? )

Posted by: Moon-Hawk Jan 11 2007, 05:35 PM

I was kind of confused by that too.
Anyway, just for clarity's sake, I'm having problems with
1) Appearing to be the only person logged on to dumpshock.
2) Threads that I haven't read yet becoming marked as "read", 'causing me to miss reading posts.
1 and 2 usually seem to happen at the same time.
3) Yesterday I was also having problems with threads that I had read only very recently being marked as unread, but that was just yesterday so that might've been an IE thing.

Posted by: Demerzel Jan 11 2007, 06:04 PM

I'll chime in and say that I'm having those problems from two different computers.

It appears as if the board is periodically forgetting who is online (and functions like last click show this as well, I don't see how this could be a cookie issue). It also appears that when it does that and I am online it marks everything as read, regardless if I have seen it.

Basically it appears that it loggs me off (As this is what happens when I log off all my unread posts get marked to read so forums I ignore don't permanently show new messages).

Posted by: Moon-Hawk Jan 11 2007, 08:40 PM

Posted by: eidolon Jan 11 2007, 08:40 PM

After carefully deleting cookies and logging back in (did this on 1/9 IIRC), DSF is working correctly for me. I'm in XP Pro running FF 2.0.0.1, with cookies deleted on every logout but with forums.dumpshock.com as an exception.

Just posting for extra info.

Posted by: Moon-Hawk Jan 11 2007, 08:46 PM

Okay, I'll try switching to FF 2.0.

Posted by: eidolon Jan 11 2007, 08:53 PM

Reminder: If you use "Back", you're going to be looking at a pre-cached page, and the radio lights won't have changed to reflect the fact that you've viewed something. Refreshing will reflect read/unread correctly (assuming the cookie is working right for you).

edit:
This post intended for general consumption. Brought to you by the letter spork.
(didn't want MH to think I was assuming his ignorance; and remember, ignorance is curable, stupidity isn't ... or something like that )

Posted by: Moon-Hawk Jan 11 2007, 08:57 PM

Indeed, assuming the cookie is working.

Well, I finally got around to upgrading Firefox on this computer.
Now we shall see.

Posted by: Moon-Hawk Jan 11 2007, 09:52 PM

Got a new version of Firefox. I cleared out all the cookies, all the personal info, started totally up-to-date and fresh.
Same problem.

@eidolon: I did read your last post with sort of a "Is your computer plugged in, Moon-Hawk?" tone to it, but I know you didn't mean it that way.
edit: In case that didn't make sense, I'm talking about how when you call tech support and tell them that your internet is down and they ask you if your modem is plugged in and you have to be like, "Can we skip this and please just put me through to level 2 tech support?" Sorry, I'm not making much sense. There's all this blood in my caffeine system and it's time to go home.

Posted by: Demerzel Jan 11 2007, 09:58 PM

Well, is your computer pluged in?

Posted by: Moon-Hawk Jan 11 2007, 10:01 PM

Posted by: Demerzel Jan 11 2007, 10:11 PM

It is. I liked the concept of a single mind influencing the future history of mankind for millenia and being known to only very few all that time.

Posted by: Fortune Jan 11 2007, 10:13 PM

Posted by: eidolon Jan 11 2007, 11:15 PM

Guys, I'm not, and was not, calling anyone stupid. Sorry if my joking around made it sound that way. Added "edit" to make it clear that I was trying to avoid that rather than imply it.

MH: Well, you've now gone beyond anything I can help with. Hopefully Mark will notice this thread soon and look at what's going on a bit more closely.

Fortune: Never intended to imply that you (or anyone else) were. My apologies if it sounded that way. It's just a quote that I can't remember the origin of that I think is funny.

Posted by: Fortune Jan 11 2007, 11:37 PM

It's cool. I do know the quote (sorta ), but I guess I just needed one more coffee before my sense of humor kicked in fully.

But, having said that, I have done all that stuff again, and am still experiencing each and every one of the problems that Moon-Hawk listed above. Not all the time, and not all at the same time, but with enough frequency to be irritating ... if I actually had anything better to do, that is.

Posted by: Sphynx Jan 12 2007, 07:46 AM

Just an FYI, there's a plugin for FireFox called https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1419/ that 'simulates' IE. I've found on various other forums that simulating IE is alot simpler than getting things fixed (since I use Firefox exclusively).

Posted by: Fortune Jan 12 2007, 07:59 AM

Well, as was stated above, the problem seems to be happening in IE as well.

But thanks for the link.

Posted by: eidolon Jan 12 2007, 02:41 PM

Just an FYI for Sphyx's FYI

Using the IE tab in FF completely negates any kind of added security that you're getting from running FF (namely, not running bad ActiveX content, some other stuff that I read about but can't remember right now).

If it doesn't bother you or you're using other measures to protect your machine, it's fine. But anyone that runs FF specifically to get away from holes in IE would be best served by not installing the IE tab extension.

Posted by: Sphynx Jan 12 2007, 03:14 PM

The IETab requires you to specifically state which sites you open with it. It doesn't automatically open all sites with IETabs. I use it regularly to open certain forum sites. Security is only an issue if you use it to open sites you don't know.

Posted by: Moon-Hawk Jan 12 2007, 03:14 PM

Hey, don't worry eidolon, we're just all cranky 'cause Dumpshock is messed up. I didn't even make it halfway through my unread posts this morning before they all got flagged as read.

Posted by: eidolon Jan 12 2007, 03:18 PM

Posted by: Sphynx Jan 12 2007, 03:36 PM

Moon-Hawk, you can fix that by opening the links in a new window. In FireFox, if you have a mouse with 3 buttons, just push the center button. That's how I do it, so the first page never reloads until I finish all my reading. That's the beauty of Tabs.

Posted by: Moon-Hawk Jan 12 2007, 03:53 PM

Actually, no, that doesn't fix it. I already do that, but because even though the buttons are still dark blue after the problem has occurred the "skip to first unread post" button will go to the last post.
Unless of course the first thing I do when I log onto Dumpshock is to open every single thread that I plan to read to the first unread post before the problem occurs, and then read each of my 50 open tabs, but I think that goes slightly beyond reasonable.

quick edit: Rereading that post, I realize it sounds a bit snarky, which I did not intend. I am perfectly willing to modify my browsing behavior to accommodate a new "feature", I'm just letting you know that I tried that already and it doesn't really help.

Posted by: Sphynx Jan 12 2007, 04:08 PM

Ah. I never use the 'skip to first unread' button. I have my forum settings to 50 or 100 forget which, posts per page (whatever the maximum amount is). I just scroll down to where the discussion was last at.

Posted by: BishopMcQ Jan 12 2007, 04:16 PM

I threw all the cookies out the window (kept the peanut butter ones in the other room though...)

Using IE 6.0.28 works peachy for me, the souls add to the flavor.

Posted by: Fortune Jan 12 2007, 07:38 PM

Posted by: Kyoto Kid Jan 14 2007, 08:47 PM

...still having issues with PHP Spell missing the "target" like a "normal" without a smartlink, defaulting from an Agility of 3. Now it is happening on responses I type directly in addition to those pasted in from another source.

It will highlight across spaces between two words or just portions of a word (which itself is spelled correctly) as it did again today.

Posted by: adamu Jan 15 2007, 01:44 PM

I don't mind admitting that I have NO IDEA what any of you are talking about - total computer illiterate here.
What I do know is that no matter whether I am at home (bad computer), Internet cafe (so so), or work (very good system, I am told), I am usually the only one on the boards.
But even that varies from click to click. Every once in a while and with no discernible (to me) pattern, it shows a partial (though not full) listing of who's around.

If I may whine briefly about a free (sort of) service, this really sucks. I never know if my players are also online when I am - so I don't know if it is worth my while to wait ten minutes for a reply so we can get a double-post-cycle. I don't know who to reply to first, so they can get a reply while they are still online. I don't know who to be careful of cross-posting with (plays hell with an IC thread).

Wondering if there is any fix planned at the admin level.....

Posted by: Moon-Hawk Jan 16 2007, 05:42 PM

It's been 11 days now since this thread started. Can we please get another update from the powers that be?
It seems like posting has been WAY down lately, and I think it's because of this. Maybe it's not way down, but I'm just not seeing a lot of posts because I'm missing some of them that come up as "read".
Can you maybe tell us what's being done? Heck, I'd settle for a "Piss off, my life is busy right now I'll fix it when I get a chance."
Thanks.

Posted by: Konsaki Jan 16 2007, 05:44 PM

"Piss off, their lives are busy right now. They'll get to it when they get the chance."

Posted by: eidolon Jan 16 2007, 05:57 PM

I wish I could tell you more, but I don't have anything to do with the boards at the technical (software/server/etc.) level.

I have had the problem come back a couple of times now though. Both machines.

Posted by: Adam Jan 17 2007, 05:39 PM

Sorry. I'm in a flat-out sprint to get a BattleTech book to press, and it is occupying all my time lately; I've barely had chance to look at the forums the last few days, much less trying to figure out the exact sources of these problems and fix them.