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Posted by: tisoz Sep 6 2007, 09:03 PM

OK, this may seem questionable as to what forum it belongs, but it really relates to the forums and the users themselves so I thought it should go here. With other topics in this section addressing moderator actions, this topic seems to fit here.

Who has gotten a moderator warning? How many?

1) tisoz, too many to remember, but about 1 or 2 a year, so 10-15 maybe.

At least over the years they have gotten more obvious as to what the problem was. I remember saying WTF are they warning me about? to the first few. The last few have been more you have to be kidding in that it seems like we are being over moderated at times.

I have not been suspended, yet. Not counting self-imposed suspensions. If you want to 'fess up to suspensions, that might be interesting, too.

Posted by: mfb Sep 6 2007, 09:33 PM

i used to get suspended a lot--that's why i'm mfb, now, instead of motorfirebox. getting out of the military has reduced my stress load and made me a little less, ah, intense, so i don't think i've even gotten a warning in months. i pretty much asked for all my warnings and suspensions.

i think the funniest mod-related moment was when someone complained that old-time users like me and SL James were less likely to get suspended/banned.

Posted by: Moon-Hawk Sep 6 2007, 09:38 PM

I have participated in discussions that got mod warnings, but AFAIK I wasn't one of the offending parties.
I thought I was, once, because IMO I was toeing the line, but I PMed eidolon for clarification and to apologize and was informed that the warning comment wasn't really intended for me in the first place.
So unless I'm completely forgetting something, I've never gotten a mod warning, private or otherwise.
If anyone remembers one that I don't, feel free to remind me. wink.gif

Posted by: Wounded Ronin Sep 6 2007, 09:45 PM

I can't recall ever having gotten a mod warning. As such, I feel left out.

Therefore, YOU ALL ARE CA CA DOODIE HEADS! AND YOU SMELL LIKE TOENAIL! YES, ALL OF YOU.

Posted by: Fortune Sep 6 2007, 11:11 PM

I'm a good boy.

Sure I have been a participant in threads that have received warnings (as has pretty much anybody ... especially in the old Lounge days), but only once have I received one personally directed towards me (merited or not is something I feel I don't need to discuss). No PM warnings (other than clarifications initiated by myself), and no suspensions in all my time here. smile.gif

Posted by: Ancient History Sep 6 2007, 11:26 PM

I'm a bad bay. I've been warned before, when I deserved it.

Posted by: Kagetenshi Sep 7 2007, 12:37 AM

QUOTE (Ancient History)
I'm a bad bay.

He really is. So many carcasses of ships run aground…

~J

Posted by: Dashifen Sep 7 2007, 01:51 AM

Wow. I remember the days of the Lounge ...... *nostalgic*

Posted by: Caine Hazen Sep 7 2007, 03:14 AM

There are places those type of people went... The ylet some of us back in here even.

Silly people wink.gif

Posted by: toturi Sep 7 2007, 03:22 AM

I... have never been warned. Surprising, given how many rules threads I have been in have been issued warnings. Maybe I need to work harder.

Posted by: tisoz Sep 7 2007, 04:38 AM

I am waiting to hear from about a dozen people I suspected had been warned, several times even.

I wondered if many people got PM warnings when I heard about some that had been issued, or moreso when I was surprised to hear someone had been suspended.

And probably my worst behavior never got a moderator PM warning, thread warning, suspension or ban. Maybe that's why some of the recent moderator decisions seem so overblown.

Posted by: Critias Sep 7 2007, 05:06 AM

I've never gotten a PMed warning, a publicly posted warning, a temporary suspension, or a permanent account ban. Ever.

In other news, I'm a compulsive liar.

Posted by: Doctor Funkenstein Sep 7 2007, 06:19 AM

I've had a few warnings when I don't notice myself getting out of line. Only one ban in recent memory (I think I may have had one years ago when I stepped into a Lounge debate), but that's because I usually calm down and stop even before moderators step in, or do so when they ask if I haven't.

Posted by: SinN Sep 7 2007, 09:29 AM

Never had a ban or warning on record. I was talking with a certain moderator over the phone when he noticed one of my posts, told me if I didnt change it , then I would get a warning. Havent had much trouble since then. Im pretty sure Im getting one soon, though. rotfl.gif

Posted by: BishopMcQ Sep 7 2007, 10:39 PM

No warnings here. If someone asks a question, I try to answer it to the best of my ability. Consequently, when a topic has gone beyond answering a question to a train wreck in progress as I have seen on these forums more times than I can count over the years, I try to not get involved.

The closest I think I got to a warning (no one came out and said it but I know when I'm dancing in the gray spaces) is when SR4 was announced. My voice was heard loudly and clearly calling a few people at GenCon So Cal liars. A few hours later, when I had calmed down, I sent a few PM apologies and posted into the same thread apologizing.

There are times when we allow our real lives to cloud our judgment and we decide that it is easier to blame someone else's statements for our own emotions, but we are the ones who choose how we feel and what we say. Knowing the rules that we must all abide by, we must each decide when we push "add reply" whether the consequences of what we say are worth the fleeting satisfaction of the moment.

Posted by: Zhan Shi Sep 8 2007, 05:10 AM

No warnings or bans, but I'm new. One of my threads was shut down by the mods, though.

Posted by: NightmareX Sep 8 2007, 06:49 AM

Not counting public (ie non-person specific) warnings, one warning and one (two day) ban. Planning on keeping it that way - I needs my fix man! wink.gif

(Fun fact: When banned, your IP is banned and you can't even view the forum - at least that's the way it was for me)

Posted by: nezumi Sep 8 2007, 10:57 AM

I think I was warned about a funny spelling error once. I'm hoping that one day I'll get mod status so I can warn and ban myself and just try it out. (As an aside, on that day I can ban WR too, so we can be cool together.) I heard they take your internet persona and actually plug it into simsense to feed you an artificially created environment that will help you readjust to society, is that true?

Posted by: eidolon Sep 8 2007, 03:06 PM

QUOTE (nezumi)
I heard they take your internet persona and actually plug it into simsense to feed you an artificially created environment that will help you readjust to society, is that true?

Shhhhhhhh!

Posted by: Tanka Sep 8 2007, 03:06 PM

I'm a good little peon.

Posted by: Thomas Sep 8 2007, 04:11 PM

QUOTE (Tanka)
I'm a good little peon.

…but your sig shows that you are very close to the line (not DSF’s)

Big Brother is watching you – radical thinker!

Posted by: Kyoto Kid Sep 8 2007, 06:47 PM

...no directed warning,...yet...though I do admit to making threads take the unexpected left turn on occasion and for that I apologise.

But Like ZhanShi said I also have participated in a few threads that were eventually shut down for other reasons.


Posted by: fistandantilus3.0 Sep 9 2007, 01:02 AM

QUOTE (Kyoto Kid @ Sep 8 2007, 01:47 PM)

But Like ZhanShi said I also have participated in a few threads that were eventually shut down for other reasons.

So have I. I'm pretty sure just about everyone has at some point. I made some smart ass comment something like two years ago that prompted Adam to close a thread and glare at me. biggrin.gif Guess it wasn't that big a deal.

Posted by: Zhan Shi Sep 9 2007, 02:41 AM

I was doing some digging in the archives. Came across a thread about ED/SR crossovers. Someone, I can't remember the name, was proposing a set of theories. It turned into a long, drawn out argument that makes Moleskin look like a walk in the park. When Lou Prosperi logged on to put in his two cents worth, he got hammered something terrible. Egads, what a mess.

Posted by: fistandantilus3.0 Sep 9 2007, 02:43 AM

Yes, the infamous Master Shake thread.Can't recall for certain but I think it was the second one he did. His first one proposed he become the new SR Line Developer, - OR - that was was a god or some crap.

[ Spoiler ]

Posted by: mfb Sep 9 2007, 07:51 AM

it occurs to me that i've probably had larger mod action taken against me than any other user. at least, i'm pretty sure that no other user has provoked the banning of an entire country's IP range (or at least a big part of it).

Posted by: SinN Sep 9 2007, 02:29 PM

I remember a thread a few months ago. It was in general gaming. We were talking about this other game and was warned to take it to the section where is specificly designed for that. The guy who started the thread was too lazy and never did. Eventually it just go shut down.

Posted by: Tanka Sep 9 2007, 11:28 PM

QUOTE (Thomas)
QUOTE (Tanka)
I'm a good little peon.

…but your sig shows that you are very close to the line (not DSF’s)

Big Brother is watching you – radical thinker!

Only on Tuesdays.

*checks day*

Oh, OK, I'm good for now.

Posted by: darthmord Sep 10 2007, 06:29 PM

I'm still reasonably new here. No warnings or bans yet, not that I am expecting any. Then again, I also heavily moderate what I post so I'm not breaking any rules.

Such is life.

Posted by: Buster Sep 11 2007, 10:36 PM

I've never been warned on any forum, but a weird thing just happened to me a couple of weeks ago: I got banned from rpol.net for having more than one account.

I didn't know what rpol.net was when I first went there, so I created a dummy account with a random name so I could search the games, etc. Then later, I deleted the email for the first account and created a "real" account for rpol.net. I went on vacation, then came back to several notices that I better reply right now or my accounts will be disabled and finally a notice that I was banned.

I tried to get my accounts deleted so I could make one with a decent name, but the Nazi running the place wouldn't do it. She said I had to keep my original account name forever. The site looks like it's a hundred years old, so it's probably running on some ancient rickety SQLAnywhere database, so maybe she's just afraid of touching the thing.

I had requested to join all the SR4 games there, but I only got one reply and that game ended up getting abandoned by the GM after a week with no notice, so I haven't bothered to get my account fixed.

Posted by: Lindt Sep 12 2007, 04:58 AM

I seem to remember getting a stern warning once, but that was what feels like eons ago, I think it may have been on the Jive forums.
No bans, yet at least. I tend to let people like Tisoz and mfb get the ban hammer before I get into real trouble.

And mfb, I have to ask, how did you get an entire country IP banned? I mean that takes either some massive talent, or a lazy moderator.

Posted by: mfb Sep 13 2007, 05:46 AM

while i was serving in Korea, i got banned while logged on from my room a few hours south of Seoul. over that weekend (i think?) i went up to Seoul and, among other things, i made a new account so i could keep arguing. that got banned, along with (as best i can tell) all IPs from the Korean range. i couldn't even view threads from Seoul, my room on base, or a third location i checked from.

like i said, i was somewhat less mellow back then...

Posted by: nezumi Sep 13 2007, 12:54 PM

QUOTE (Buster)
I've never been warned on any forum, but a weird thing just happened to me a couple of weeks ago: I got banned from rpol.net for having more than one account.

*points and laughs* ha-ha!

The database is actually very well managed and they just released the new version of rpol like 4 months ago. The lady (cruinne?) was probably rough with you because she has to deal with a lot of very abusive people who demand a right to have a second account on a site they don't own and don't pay for. But you can enjoy your sour grapes ;P

Posted by: Kagetenshi Sep 13 2007, 12:57 PM

QUOTE (nezumi)
a site they […] don't pay for.

Actually, they do—they pay in content (and, if the site is ad-supported, eyeballs). Not saying that there's necessarily entitlement there, but a forum or other user-contribution-oriented site without users is as much nothing as if the server weren't there to begin with.

~J

Posted by: Nychuus Sep 13 2007, 01:22 PM

The last reprimand/warning I can remember I got from a wet-behind-the-ears mod (in a different forum) who couldn't detect sarcasm from a scathing attack.

I banned him for a day. You don't mess with the secret admins, a perk I got from dating the forum admin biggrin.gif

Posted by: SinN Sep 13 2007, 05:42 PM

QUOTE (Nychuus)
I banned him for a day. You don't mess with the secret admins, a perk I got from dating the forum admin biggrin.gif

Plan B could agree with that, eh?

Posted by: nezumi Sep 13 2007, 08:55 PM

QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
QUOTE (nezumi @ Sep 13 2007, 07:54 AM)
a site they […] don't pay for.

Actually, they do—they pay in content (and, if the site is ad-supported, eyeballs). Not saying that there's necessarily entitlement there, but a forum or other user-contribution-oriented site without users is as much nothing as if the server weren't there to begin with.

~J

The only advertising was a link to amazon.com which was added a month or two ago (grudgingly, because they don't get enough donations).

I don't think adding content is 'paying' for something in this case, espegcially if you're not providing content with any value. For instance, if there is a serious want of GMs, one could consider running a game adding value to the site because you provide something the site needs (GMs). But firstly, the fellow indicated he looks to play in games in a field already awash in players (and therefore he reduces value of the site by reducing available game slots) and secondly the site admin has said that he made the site basically for himself and his friends, but has opened it up to other people because he's nice. So my offering a Shadowrun game when the admin and his friends don't play Shadowrun doesn't offer value to the owner, it only costs him bandwidth.

Posted by: Kagetenshi Sep 13 2007, 09:03 PM

The owner doesn't seem to agree, as your game isn't shut down.

~J

Posted by: Buster Sep 14 2007, 01:47 AM

QUOTE (nezumi @ Sep 13 2007, 03:55 PM)
QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Sep 13 2007, 07:57 AM)
QUOTE (nezumi @ Sep 13 2007, 07:54 AM)
a site they […] don't pay for.

Actually, they do—they pay in content (and, if the site is ad-supported, eyeballs). Not saying that there's necessarily entitlement there, but a forum or other user-contribution-oriented site without users is as much nothing as if the server weren't there to begin with.

~J

The only advertising was a link to amazon.com which was added a month or two ago (grudgingly, because they don't get enough donations).

I don't think adding content is 'paying' for something in this case, espegcially if you're not providing content with any value. For instance, if there is a serious want of GMs, one could consider running a game adding value to the site because you provide something the site needs (GMs). But firstly, the fellow indicated he looks to play in games in a field already awash in players (and therefore he reduces value of the site by reducing available game slots) and secondly the site admin has said that he made the site basically for himself and his friends, but has opened it up to other people because he's nice. So my offering a Shadowrun game when the admin and his friends don't play Shadowrun doesn't offer value to the owner, it only costs him bandwidth.

Whatever you say. Tell your girlfriend to stop chasing off customers or she'll find that you really do need visitors to the site or ads stop paying. You might want to tell her to take a basic business course. And while your at it, you might want to tell her to get some lessons in manners too. Maybe she'll find people aren't so "abusive" to her if she isn't so abusive to them first. Of course if she hangs out with people like you, I guess I can see how she's encouraged to act like that. biggrin.gif

Posted by: nezumi Sep 14 2007, 12:17 PM

QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
The owner doesn't seem to agree, as your game isn't shut down.

~J

Like I said, he's nice. He regularly posts the costs of the site. It generally costs him hundreds or thousands of dollars over the course of the year to maintain. He does it out of charity. Considering he is paying for my games, I don't begrudge him whatever rules he wanted. If he took a business course, he'd probably cover the site with banners or pop-ups or shut down nyahnyah.gif I'd much rather leave them running a charity organization, even if it's one that is a little nasty towards people who don't read the rules.

Posted by: Kai Sep 15 2007, 04:53 AM

I and about oh...20 or 30 of my bestest friends got banned, ejected, and deleted by Dvixen's flaming IP banhammer of doom a long, long time ago?

...Good lord, that was like 8 years ago. Now I feel old. Oh and we probably unequivocally deserved every bit of it smile.gif

--//[改]>

Posted by: Kronk2 Sep 24 2007, 08:01 AM

I have never been personally warned but my thread wandered waaaay off topic once.

Posted by: Zhan Shi Dec 25 2007, 10:19 PM

Broke my cherry. Can't say I did'nt deserve it. I'll try to be more on discrete and on topic in the future. Mea maxima culpa.

Posted by: Kagetenshi Dec 26 2007, 02:56 AM

QUOTE (Zhan Shi)
I'll try to be more on discrete […] in the future. Mea maxima culpa.

Well, glad to see you're committed to being continuous.

~J

Posted by: FrankTrollman Dec 28 2007, 04:50 PM

Personally I've been banned and/or black listed from many sites and mailing lists. Because I am a raging and uncompromising asshole.

I was banned from the L5R rules discussion lists because I pointed out a flaw in the rules and proposed a fix (which was ultimately adopted).

I was banned from WotC's D&D board because people had begun quoting me back and forth with Skip Williams in arguments about how rules interacted.

I left the Nifty Boards and vowed never to return because one of the mods was a neo-Nazi and after a very large flame war where we both broke just about every rule the site ever had the mods agreed to... not do anything to either of us. So I told them that they should probably enforce their own rules and left.

I got warned on ENWorld because I said that Gygax was a plagarist and poor model to base gaming upon.

And I've gotten temporary bans here oh... a couple of times. Mostly for being a dick.

-Frank

Posted by: Kyoto Kid Dec 29 2007, 04:13 AM

...wow, that's some laundry list there. eek.gif

I think the last time I was on the WotC D&D board was when it still was 3rd ed & Sword & Fist came out. Though I did receive a Happy Christmas email from them the other day.

Posted by: SinN Dec 29 2007, 06:41 PM

QUOTE (FrankTrollman)
Personally I've been banned and/or black listed from many sites and mailing lists. Because I am a raging and uncompromising asshole.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! rotfl.gif rotfl.gif rotfl.gif rotfl.gif rotfl.gif rotfl.gif

Posted by: DTFarstar Dec 29 2007, 11:11 PM

I just generally can't spare the energy to get worked up enough to go crazy enough to get warned and whatnot. Though I must say my random thought processes have derailed the living hell out of quite a few threads.

I don't think I've ever been warned or anything though. If I have it didn't make enough of an impression for me to remember. I'm generally enough of a self-entitled, conceited, self-righteous ass that if I was warned.... I would probably ignore it or talk back unless I really felt I was doing something wrong.

I'm a dick. Hey, Frank, we should form a club or something.

Chris

Posted by: fistandantilus3.0 Dec 30 2007, 02:30 AM

But sadly, you'd evenutally have to kick Frank out of the club. smile.gif

Posted by: martindv Dec 30 2007, 05:56 AM

QUOTE (DTFarstar)
I don't think I've ever been warned or anything though. If I have it didn't make enough of an impression for me to remember. I'm generally enough of a self-entitled, conceited, self-righteous ass that if I was warned.... I would probably ignore it or talk back unless I really felt I was doing something wrong.

Then I seriously doubt your badassitude.

Challenging mods after a warning just jacks up the amount of force with which they will drop the hammer on you. I've never run into anyone online who truly is a "self-entitled, conceited, self-righteous ass" and acts like one without some stain on their reputation for getting in trouble with mods and admins.

Posted by: SinN Dec 31 2007, 08:31 PM

QUOTE (martindv)
Then I seriously doubt your badassitude.

Challenging mods after a warning just jacks up the amount of force with which they will drop the hammer on you. I've never run into anyone online who truly is a "self-entitled, conceited, self-righteous ass" and acts like one without some stain on their reputation for getting in trouble with mods and admins.

rotfl.gif

You just became my new friend.

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