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Posted by: imperialus Feb 2 2008, 10:19 PM

I must say, I like the new boards. It's going to take a bit of getting used to, but first impression leaves me pretty impressed. Good job everyone.

Posted by: Ancient History Feb 2 2008, 10:22 PM

Hey, avatars! T'ain't the Eyeball of Ancient, but it'll do. Cool beans.

Posted by: Konsaki Feb 2 2008, 10:30 PM

Well... it's different, that's for sure. I have two questions though:

1 - Why did you chose the bright green for all the post headers and buttons? It burns the eyes and contrasts way too much with the dark background. One thing I really liked about the pre-update board was the fact that the colors were complimentary and easy on the eyes, being brown, dark grey and the like.

2 - What is the subscription thing in the 'My Controls' about?

EDIT: Ok, maybe 3 things. It's a bit harder to do a quick look to see which posts have had new posts in them unlike before. Maybe changin the 'new post' icon to a different color than the same as the 'no new posts' icon would help.

Posted by: nezumi Feb 2 2008, 10:49 PM

Is there anyway to turn off everyone else's avatars and go with a more boring 'text-only' method? Or just to generally make it look less... forumy?

Posted by: Eugene Feb 2 2008, 10:50 PM

Maybe it's just a setting I can't figure out how to change, but I can't distinguish hyperlinked text from regular text unless my cursor is over it.

Posted by: Redjack Feb 2 2008, 10:52 PM

Lo-Fi version link at the bottom of the page.

Posted by: Fortune Feb 2 2008, 10:53 PM

I disagree. I really like the colors and the contrast (although I still say it could use some purple! ), and I don't find it hard on the eyes at all ... even though I stare at the screen all day and all night.

Posted by: nezumi Feb 2 2008, 11:19 PM

Alright, thank you for the lo-fi board, but why can't I post in that mode??? Isn't that a bit of an oversight?

(Although I do like the ability to turn off everyone else's avatars, while forcing everyone else to see mine!)

Posted by: Redjack Feb 2 2008, 11:36 PM

Lo-Fi is an 'out of the box' thing. Have to add the checking posting there to my list.

Posted by: Meriss Feb 2 2008, 11:55 PM

All right everyone. Three cheers for Redjack and his work on our favourite corner of the net.

Hip Hip HURRAY!

Hip Hip HURRAY!

Hip Hip HURRAY!

Posted by: JongWK Feb 3 2008, 12:22 AM

Could we have a non-green board skin?

My eyes...

Posted by: Fortune Feb 3 2008, 12:24 AM

Only if the alternate is purple!

More neon! This is Shadowrun!

Posted by: Grinder Feb 3 2008, 12:29 AM

The new look is ok, but the new logo is... well...

Posted by: FlakJacket Feb 3 2008, 12:32 AM

Heh, you guys obviously around way back when we had the Christmas colours. Or the pea/puke green colour scheme.

Posted by: Grinder Feb 3 2008, 12:39 AM

Having hyperlinks in the same color as normal text is not the best idea.
And I found the old quoting function to be more comfortable.

Posted by: Thanee Feb 3 2008, 01:32 AM

Everything looks so fresh and new... Thanks for the effort!

Must agree on the logo, though, the old one was cooler.
And hyperlinks REALLY need to be another color when inactive!
Even worse, it seems you cannot color them yourself without overwriting the mouse over effect.

Bye
Thanee

Posted by: Fortune Feb 3 2008, 01:35 AM

Hell no! I am sick of the old logo. I like this one much better.

Posted by: BishopMcQ Feb 3 2008, 01:53 AM

What's this about avatars? I keep seeing people mention it, but I'm not seeing any of them...

Posted by: BookWyrm Feb 3 2008, 01:54 AM

Hmmm........not too shabby. Must explore again, get used to it.

Posted by: Vegas Feb 3 2008, 01:56 AM

McQ, You've got to go into your settings and specifically choose to see peoples avatars (and people of course need to choose them) to have them be seen.

Kinda nice actually, Opt-In instead of Opt-Out for a change.

Posted by: BishopMcQ Feb 3 2008, 02:02 AM

Thanks Vegas!! Glad to see you back online btw.

Posted by: Redjack Feb 3 2008, 02:10 AM

Go to 'My Controls'

There you can select avatars (Fortune: Gangs are uploaded).

Also, under 'Board Settings' you can choose not to display user avatars, signatures, etc..

Please check your friends and ignored lists.. I thought someone said the upgrade switched theirs...

All in all, given the number of patches it took to upgrade the board.. I'm really amazed we are this functional...

Posted by: Fortune Feb 3 2008, 02:20 AM

Damn! That was quick! Thanks.



I think you all did a good job.

Wait ... we had Ignore Lists on the last board?
Did they work? Nobody seemed to use them.
And what exactly does a 'Friends List' do?

Posted by: Thanee Feb 3 2008, 02:27 AM

Yep, overall it seems to run just fine... had to change all my links to my PMs, though, since despite having the same link syntax all the message IDs were different.

Speaking of avatars, will those remain with just the gallery or will you allow custom ones as well?

Bye
Thanee

P.S. is it possible to have two buttons for full and quick edit? Having to select from the menu every time you edit a post could become rather annoying over time...

Also... what is Multiquote supposed to do? It does nothing when I press the button...

Posted by: Naysayer Feb 3 2008, 02:33 AM

It'll send you a pm whenever one of your friends tries to play "that other game"...
"Friends don't let friends play d20!"

Posted by: Prime Mover Feb 3 2008, 02:44 AM

Two thumbs up!

Posted by: Fortune Feb 3 2008, 02:47 AM

Oh, and I see purple links at the top of the page! Yay!

Edit: But now they're gone.

Violet looks really sharp on this background.

Posted by: Prime Mover Feb 3 2008, 02:52 AM

Keep looking up at that logo up top and trying to figure out what it reminds me of. After a few hours now the color and font of it remind of a sort of 70's logo....growing on me.

Posted by: Redjack Feb 3 2008, 02:57 AM

Stock only.


Hmm.. That's built into the skin. I do find it a bit annoying as well.


Seems to be an issue with that. Let me get back to you...

Posted by: Fortune Feb 3 2008, 03:10 AM

Why does Google.com keep haunting the Active Users list? It's been there off-and-on all morning.

Posted by: Mr. Man Feb 3 2008, 04:13 AM

It was me and it moved them to the "PM Block List" (not the "Ignored Users List" which is a different thing).


Weren't search engines turned away from DSF before because of the CPU usage their spidering caused? Maybe this is why some people have reported it being a little slower since the upgrade.


I used it as an address book.

The new version seems to treat the friends list as more of a social networking thing by publicly listing them in your profile. Also people you add are notified and (depending on how the forum is set up) they might have to approve it.

Which is too bad, because I enjoyed being "secret friends" with people.

Posted by: DocTaotsu Feb 3 2008, 04:50 AM

Won't lie. Miss the old boards. Course I never posted or registered on the old boards but...

Also, not a big fan of the new logo. However I don't have anything to offer in it's stead so I guess I should just learn to deal with it. I'd probably like it more if it wasn't in that gray box.

Posted by: Kyoto Kid Feb 3 2008, 05:50 AM

..I was surprised how soon this happened. I like the new look although the mixing of both the SR general & SR4 forums was a bit confusing at first.

[on bended knees] Oh please let me import my KK avatar. There are none that fit the Bushido Cowgirl (as I already mentioned) I have requested Squinky to do one so if that is acceptable, I will be happy.

http://kyotokid.deviantart.com/art/Kyoto-Kid-SRIII-63243569

Posted by: Kanada Ten Feb 3 2008, 05:57 AM

There seems to be an issue when viewing - what I assume are intended to be "recent" posts from the profile screen, due to the Nov 9, 2009 issue that popped up back http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=6192&b=1&st=0&p=176650, for those of us that posted threads then. Probably a low priority, like the spellchecker (I still have the Shadowrun dat file for this, if wanted).

Posted by: kanislatrans Feb 3 2008, 06:15 AM

I like it..
I agree with Prime Mover, the logo kinda reminds me of an old K-tel album"love songs of the '70s " or something ,:0
(great, now Ive got that Jim Croce song stuck in my head) thanks guys,thanks alot.(grin)

Posted by: Bull Feb 3 2008, 09:51 AM

We went with Green to match the colors used in the SR4 core book. Plus, I think it's kinda sharp looking, and it stands out a bit to say "Hey, these are a new version of forums".

It does take a bit of getting used to, however



I agree here, and I mentioend something about this to Redjack this afternoon while we were testing the boards a bit before they went live. I think it's on his "To Do" list.



Right now, just the gallery ones. However, we have not ruled out the possibility of allowing users to "earn" a custom avatar down the road, through contests or something. But right now, it's not real high on our To Do list.





Multiquote allows you to select multiple messages and reply to all of them at once. However, the "Multiquote" buttons don't change color or anything when selected (They are "highlighted", but it's hard to tell), so it's not obvious that you have them selected.

When you hit Add Reply at the bottem of the page, it will add in all the messages you selected for Multiquote into your reply box as a set of quoted messages. I did that for this reply (Though I goofed and selected the wrong message for RedJack, so I had to do his quote manually).

Bull

Posted by: Thanee Feb 3 2008, 12:05 PM

Ah, I see. Thanks for the explanation.

And the link color has been changed... much better now.

Bye
Thanee

Posted by: Thanee Feb 3 2008, 12:24 PM

I'm also really sure, that I have seen it before, just don't know where...

Bye
Thanee

Posted by: apollo124 Feb 3 2008, 01:04 PM

Liking the new board a lot so far, guys. Kudos to all for their hard work. Love the avatars!

Posted by: Kanada Ten Feb 3 2008, 03:46 PM

http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=9200&b=1&st=0&p=0&#entry0 perhaps?

Posted by: nezumi Feb 3 2008, 04:16 PM

Hey, just because the google doesn't post often doesn't mean its not a participating member, lay off!

I'm going to send the google a PM to make sure there are no hard feelings...

As an aside, the quote button used to be on the top of posts, I believe. Now it's on the bottom, plus the border between posts isn't blazing purple or anything. I accidentally quoted the wrong person like three times before I figured out what's wrong. Seems like a simple fix for us oldies, although I'll admit I'm not sure if it's worth the time. I'll catch up eventually...


My kneejerk reaction is I miss my security dumpshock. It's pretty standard when deploying a new, replacement system that the first day it has something like 20% support though. The test is how we feel in a few weeks. I'm thinking, since we already seem to have beaten 20%, there won't be a lot of serious complaints...

Posted by: Thanee Feb 3 2008, 05:55 PM

Yep, that must have been it.

Bye
Thanee

Posted by: Abbandon Feb 3 2008, 06:37 PM

• You can set up for the forums to automatically launch quick reply's for all you people who want two seperate buttons for quick/full replys.
• I dont like the new spoilers. The old ones saved space, the new ones just mask stuff but still take up space...
• I think there should be a bigger distinction between primary and secondary subject lines. Make the primary subject line bigger text or make the secondary line small, different color.
• The only thread icons I care about on any forum are the ones that clearly show me which threads i have commented on.
• Snapback, topic, and post BB codes don't seem to work. None of them would link back to stuff in the thread i used them in.
• Can we no longer link to other websites in our signatures? I just tried to change the color of my sig and put a | in between the names and it would not allow it talking about unauthorized websites and stuff. (wikispaces)

Those are my only suggestions so far =)

Oh I also wanted to say that i LOVE the color scheme. I love black and green. I think if anyone is having problems with the green being to bright they need to adjust their monitors. Its not that bright. Its kind of bright along the bottom and darker along the top...

Posted by: Cain Feb 3 2008, 06:59 PM

I presume the custom titles for the Dumpshocked! members has been dropped? I understand it was always a pain in the butt for the admins. Not a big deal, just asking.

Posted by: BishopMcQ Feb 3 2008, 07:05 PM

Cain--In My Controls, the profile section will allow you to set a custom title. If you leave it blank, the default settings will show through.

Posted by: Jhaiisiin Feb 3 2008, 07:40 PM

Odd, I don't have that option.

Posted by: BishopMcQ Feb 3 2008, 07:44 PM

My Controls/Edit Profile Information

Posted by: the_dunner Feb 3 2008, 07:50 PM

There's a minimum post count before that option becomes available.

Posted by: Kanada Ten Feb 3 2008, 07:52 PM

It used to be a minimum donation amount, but I guess generating large amounts of user content counts for something...

Posted by: Eugene Feb 3 2008, 08:38 PM

Indeed, thanks! Love the colors, too!

Posted by: Casazil Feb 3 2008, 09:26 PM

Looks good everyone.

Posted by: Kyoto Kid Feb 3 2008, 09:52 PM

...I take it you have to at least reach the lofty position of Immortal Elf to use the option.

...ooooh I like the RTF toggle, the additional fonts (like this one I always use for my forum default), size and colour selection (though I am having a little trouble figuring out which one is the default). Still so much more elegant than the old method of entereing the cumbersome [tags].

...a couple smll things though, the icons on the Text Formatting menu are a bit hard to see, and the "( " (eight) still inserts the emoticon instead of the numeral in parens.

OK, found another slight bug. When I went into change the font on my signature, it returned the error Signature too Long. which I find odd as I added the last line last night with no issues.

...Also Firefox Auto Spell Checking seems not to be working.

Posted by: Grinder Feb 3 2008, 10:11 PM

I have to log in every time I return to the site (that is after I booted my laptop) and don't stay logged in as in the old forum. The same problem occurs with the Privateer Press boards, which are using the same board software. I'm using Firefox.

And second the need for a clearer distinction between postings, I accidently quoted the wrong postings too.

Posted by: Fortune Feb 3 2008, 10:22 PM

Funnily enough, I actually went to check out the profile and send Google a PM, but unlike every single other active poster on the list, Google was not a clickable link, and had no profile or place for me to send a PM. That is what I meant by haunting, because Google was like a ghost ... there but not there.

Posted by: Fortune Feb 3 2008, 10:27 PM

True, but the request was for two seperate buttons for the Quick/Full Edit features.

Posted by: Grinder Feb 3 2008, 10:32 PM

Am I too stupid or isn't isn't is possible to quote a post including the quotes in it?

Best sentence ever, I know.

Posted by: Fortune Feb 3 2008, 10:34 PM

That might still be the case, because even with my post count, I don't have the option to change my title. Could be that only those that donated have had that option enabled, which makes sense, if doable.

Posted by: Fortune Feb 3 2008, 10:36 PM

I've noticed that too. There are no 'post pyramids', because when you click 'Quote', it only quotes the actual text posted by that poster, and not any quoted text contained in the post. A small pain in the butt, but it keeps those half-page quote trees in check. If you use the quote buttons, there is a little button thing right next to the quoted person's name (at the top of the quote) that links back to the original post that you quoted, for those that need further reference.

Posted by: Kanada Ten Feb 3 2008, 10:56 PM

The option to change it appears to be gone for me, now, which is something I hadn't counted on...

Posted by: Bull Feb 3 2008, 11:14 PM

The log in thing is likely a cookie issue. I had problems when we were testing the boards, and cleaning up my cookies and such from the browser helped.

And I'll talk to Red and borders between posts to the list. I've done that myself already once here, and I've done it on another board that has a similar layout.

It may be related to the skin, though, and if that's the case may be a bitch to fix.



It's possible to still do, you just have to use the multiquote function, and move one (or more) of the closing tags.

I think it's a feature designed to keep the boards cleaner and, as you say, keep the giant quote trees down. Not really something that generally bothers me, though it can be helpful to have a couple quotes in a single response.



I think Red pulled it down to play with it. It wasn't supposed to have been left on initially, but since it was, I think we're discussing exactly how we're gonna leave it implemented.

Bull

Posted by: Naysayer Feb 3 2008, 11:17 PM

Wow, different fonts...
There's even Comic Sans!
That's fantastic news...
Let's just hope people are to busy posting to bother with stuff like fonts...
(looks at KK's post)
dangit, too late...

Posted by: Adam Feb 4 2008, 12:16 AM

I have a hunch that the "magic" fonts are going to be disappearing.

Posted by: Fortune Feb 4 2008, 12:18 AM

And there was much rejoicing!

Posted by: BishopMcQ Feb 4 2008, 12:25 AM

KK--I was only at Great Dragon status. Immortal Elf is around 10,000 posts I think.

Posted by: Kyoto Kid Feb 4 2008, 12:38 AM

...I thought GD was at 4,500 and IE 5,000.

OK, OK...I'll knock off using the cool fonts... damn, just thought that such a nice new "shiny" feature was there to be used. Just don't change to "this one" please.

Posted by: Adam Feb 4 2008, 12:48 AM

The reason for not using different fonts: with stylesheets, we can easily globally change settings such as font face, size, etc. When more fonts get involved, that gets more difficult, more likely to break, and more likely to look ugly.

[Note: most modern web browsers allow the USER to add their own style sheet to any page, so they can browse with modified settings if they want. So if you actually want to read everything in Comic Sans, you can set that up yourself, without inflicting one of the ugliest typefaces known to man on any other living human being.]

Posted by: Fortune Feb 4 2008, 12:49 AM

I'm pretty sure that Great Dragon is 5,000, and Immortal Elf is 10,000, but I could be wrong.

Posted by: Kyoto Kid Feb 4 2008, 01:06 AM

...I always thought that Courier was the ugliest of all fonts (followed closely by New Times Roman). Never had trouble reading CSS myself but again it is an individual taste. Just was looking to add a bit of a personal touch to my posts.

Posted by: Fortune Feb 4 2008, 01:11 AM

Don't you do enough of that already with color?

Posted by: Krypter Feb 4 2008, 01:40 AM

Nice new look. Here's another vote for custom avatars, please.

Posted by: Kyoto Kid Feb 4 2008, 01:54 AM

...Well, only here & there to reinforce a point . I would think doing entire posts (outside of the In the Shadows forum to delineate dialogue, directions, narration etc....) in different colours would be even more bothersome than using a different set font.

Though I still do like the RTF mode, I hope that will remain a feature.

Also let's close the door on the personal Avatar issue for now before it gets out of hand. Didn't mean to create such a stir. It is nice that they even have the option available & was my bad for pressing the issue in the first place.

Posted by: Thanee Feb 4 2008, 08:57 AM

That's something I thought about as well... the thread icons (hot topic and so on) are a little distracting and too similar to really distinguish at one glance.

I would probably remove the hot topic ones (overwrite with normal ones), since you can see what topics are hot by the number of pages, anyways.

And the Icons for the threads one has posted in do seem a little out of place (what are those supposed to depict?).

Bye
Thanee

Posted by: Eyeless Blond Feb 4 2008, 09:25 AM

Regarding MultiQuote:

Any chance of having the activated multiquote buttons change color? Invert the gradient and darken it a little to it looks like it's punched down, something like that? Even just lightening the color, or having it switch to orange would be neat.

Also, second on the request for some sort of expandable/retractable box, either instead of or in addition to this spoilerbox.:
Also, second on the request for some sort of expandable/retractable box, either instead of or in addition to this spoilerbox.

Posted by: Kagetenshi Feb 4 2008, 11:09 AM

You have a deeply, deeply strange idea of "coolness".

http://bancomicsans.com/

~J, eyes now thoroughly gouged

Posted by: nezumi Feb 4 2008, 01:16 PM

Heh, now I just need to figure out how to bring my dorky dwarf avatar and comic sans over to the SR3R forum to REALLY make Kage go crazy... ;P

I think the fonts are neat. Not sure why people are complaining about comic sans. I just wish it would automatically make the post into a white balloon pointing to the avatar's mouth.

Posted by: Magus Feb 4 2008, 01:59 PM

Oooh I LIKEE!!

Posted by: Moon-Hawk Feb 4 2008, 05:13 PM

Okay, I have a problem. How will I ever pick an avatar? I'm too indecisive for this.

Posted by: Redjack Feb 4 2008, 05:25 PM

I can always assign randomly or based upon a whim....

Posted by: Backgammon Feb 4 2008, 05:51 PM

I'm not too happy with the new colors. Can you select your color theme somewhere? If not, is that a planned feature?

Posted by: Kyoto Kid Feb 4 2008, 05:57 PM

...OK, at least there was a Drop Bear which is most cool.

Posted by: Thanee Feb 4 2008, 06:27 PM

Bye
Thanee

Posted by: nezumi Feb 4 2008, 06:32 PM

!!! How did I not notice that??? I am shamed!!

edit: Would it be possible to modify the Search feature so, in addition to the post title, it includes the subforum that post resides in? Otherwise it gets a little confusing. And how do I post this edit? Oh, there it is... Sort of funny how while editing I can complete edit OR add another reply.

Posted by: Raij Feb 4 2008, 08:41 PM

Thank you thank you thank you!

An ignore feature! and pretty new colors to boot.. good stuff

Posted by: Fortune Feb 4 2008, 11:27 PM

Does the ignore feature actually 'ignore' posts, or just prevent people from PMing you?

I'm not a huge fan of enabling people to ignore actual posts (automatically anyway), as it can lead to confusion.

Posted by: Cthulhudreams Feb 5 2008, 01:38 AM

It ignores the actual post, but leaves a placeholder that says

"You have ignored this post by Fortune" and gives you the option to unignore him, or view that particular post but not unignore him

Posted by: Kyoto Kid Feb 5 2008, 02:48 AM

...well I wanted something small, cute, cuddly and oh so deadly. Took me some time going through all the galleries but when I saw the lil' fellow sitting there, I knew he was perfect.

dunner, your a genius...

Posted by: Fortune Feb 5 2008, 03:42 AM

I see, thanks. Do people know when someone puts them on their 'ignore list'?

Posted by: Tanka Feb 5 2008, 03:45 AM

As a general rule, no. Adding someone to your ignore list just ignores them -- it doesn't send messages to them or anything, as that would defeat the purpose of the ignore list.

Posted by: Fortune Feb 5 2008, 03:49 AM

Alright, thanks.

I can't imagine ever using that feature. I mean, even the most idiotic person can spark insightful conversation. Besides, the comic factor alone is entertainment enough.

Posted by: Rajaat99 Feb 5 2008, 05:00 AM

I hate change. Having said that, I like the new boards. The new logo is comical.

Posted by: Grinder Feb 5 2008, 09:47 AM

The Holy Inquisition would like to know that too.

Posted by: Fortune Feb 5 2008, 10:03 AM

I missed it too, although, of course, I wouldn't have used it even if I had seen it. I think KK slipped someone a bribe to slide it in unnoticed.

Posted by: Raij Feb 5 2008, 01:52 PM

There are a few posters that would simply make my dumpshock experience more pleasant if they were not a part of it, in any capacity.

Posted by: Fortune Feb 5 2008, 02:14 PM

Meh. If we agreed with, or even liked everyone we interacted with in life, it would be damn boring.

Posted by: eidolon Feb 5 2008, 03:08 PM

I can't for the life of me remember where I read it, but there have been studies done on how in today's world, with iPods, filters, etc., we're actually creating little "perfect world" microcosms for ourselves, in which we don't have to deal with anything that we find disagreeable, and the effects it may or may not be having. Unfortunately, I only skimmed it, so what I remember is pretty much "it's happening, and it might be a bad thing".

Posted by: Moon-Hawk Feb 5 2008, 03:34 PM

...which didn't fit comfortably into your microcosm, so you stopped reading, right?

Posted by: eidolon Feb 5 2008, 04:03 PM

Nah, I was probably supposed to be working at the time.

Posted by: Kanada Ten Feb 5 2008, 04:23 PM

Can we get rid of some of the Sticky threads in the main Shadowrun forum? Like the Duels welcome, the Terms of Service (which are permalinked at the forum top and are no more likely to be read as a sticky than as an option...), and maybe just permalink Shadowrun4.com?

Posted by: eidolon Feb 5 2008, 04:37 PM

I'm all for getting rid of most of the stickies, but as much as people like to gripe when we actually enforce the terms that they're supposed to have known about and agreed to, I doubt that one will be going anywhere.

We'll chat about it and see which ones can go.

Posted by: Redjack Feb 5 2008, 04:46 PM

I dumped the Duels Sticky.. That was my fault. When I merged the archive forums in, I didn't realize that one was stickied. The Terms of Service link above links to the terms of service post, so in effect it is automatically stickied on every page.

Posted by: fistandantilus4.0 Feb 5 2008, 05:06 PM

Riiight. It was KK .... sure ... that'll work. KK did it. Ya huh.

Posted by: hobgoblin Feb 5 2008, 05:19 PM

one bug and one request:

bug: it seems that the icon that shows normal, posted in, hot and hot&posted in threads go back to the old style "folder" when the hot&posted in comes up. so far i have two red folders along all the envelopes...

request: dig up those old forum avatars that was either on shadowrun.com or posted here in the forum at some point. i want the one that had the "acme magic circle paint" can!

other then that, the forum is working for me, colors and all...

Posted by: deek Feb 5 2008, 07:53 PM

Not sure if this has already been brought up, I really dislike the fact that I can't hit a forum and see which posts are new. That was how I mainly viewed the old layout, a couple times a day, I'd look in a forum and view new posts.

Now, the new posts since last visit is multiple pages long (because it covers all forums) and when I view just one forum, I can't tell which threads have new posts and which ones don't. It really sucks.

Posted by: Kanada Ten Feb 5 2008, 11:21 PM

I think if you "Mark all posts as read" (green bar, righthand side of each forum section, click the "options" pulldown menu), that issue might reslove, though not for today's new posts.

Posted by: Fortune Feb 5 2008, 11:39 PM

I don't really see the problem. When you use the 'View New Posts' feature, each post has its respective forum listed right next to it. It isn't all that hard to skim down and click the links of the threads you are interested in, and skip over those that hold no relevance for you.

Posted by: Thanee Feb 6 2008, 12:50 AM

Technically you can differentiate it with the icons (open and closed letter), but they are not easily distinguishable on a glance.

Hopefully those icons can get changed?

Bye
Thanee

Posted by: Kyoto Kid Feb 6 2008, 02:42 AM

...you know what is missing...a [Cancel Post] Button.

Posted by: Fortune Feb 6 2008, 03:14 AM

What's the point? If you don't like what you post, you can always edit, but it would just cause more confusion than it's worth to add this feature.

Posted by: Kyoto Kid Feb 6 2008, 03:16 AM

...didn't seem to cause much of an issue before...

Posted by: Fortune Feb 6 2008, 03:31 AM

We must be talking about two different things. I am referring more to a 'delete post' feature (and I sure don't recall that from the last boards). What are you talking about, and why can't it be duplicated by merely closing the window or clicking another link (instead of Post)?

Posted by: Redjack Feb 6 2008, 04:15 AM

This tag has been renamed to a [ HIDE ] tag.

And there was much joy amongst the peoples!

Posted by: Hocus Pocus Feb 6 2008, 04:35 AM

so shiny and sparkly!

Posted by: Fortune Feb 6 2008, 04:52 AM

Definitely much rejoicing. Thanks Redjack (and whoever else is hard at work behind the scenes).

Posted by: Kyoto Kid Feb 6 2008, 05:18 AM

...I distinctly remember a Cancel Post/Reply button (or something like that) in the old version when in editing mode and have used it a number of times particularly when I had a bad connection (such as when I would get a "timeout" while submitting a reply) to avoid double posting. I wish I had a screen shot of the old format to look at.

Posted by: Redjack Feb 6 2008, 01:16 PM

You are correct. There was a Cancel Post button on the post screen that would allow you to return back to the topic without adding your reply. It was not included in this skin and regrettably is a low priority as there is a work around (<back> button).

Posted by: Fortune Feb 6 2008, 01:24 PM

I guess I never noticed it, as I normally just use the Back button (or Backspace) if I decide not to post my reply. Is there really a need for this type of thing?

Posted by: nezumi Feb 6 2008, 01:28 PM

Answer: Yes.

An interesting note though, you can't delete a post. You can edit it so it says something little like 'this post has been deleted', but once it's there that you put in a post, it seems like removing it would require throwing its simulacrum into a volcano or something.

For fun:

Posted by: deek Feb 6 2008, 01:46 PM

Yeah, this is more to the point of what I am missing...the icons that differentiate are way too close to one another...

I'd like to see a change of icons as well!

Posted by: DocTaotsu Feb 6 2008, 03:01 PM

I retract my previous statements. The new boards are shiny and good. Although i too am holding out for custom avatars.

Posted by: Kairo Feb 6 2008, 05:31 PM

Love the new boards. A great facelift for Dumpshock!

Posted by: MaxHunter Feb 6 2008, 07:24 PM

never mind - wrong post


Nice skin anyway

Posted by: Kagetenshi Feb 6 2008, 07:46 PM

The insanity, she spreads!

~J

Posted by: fistandantilus4.0 Feb 6 2008, 09:14 PM

That would mostly be the rest of us poking RJ for things that bug us, without a word of thanks mind you. And when he complains, with pitiful little whines about things like "sleep" and "family", Adam taunts him with new free books. But these are books much like the carrot on the stick, that he never gets, but keeps working for. And when he asks for help, we telll him that he's doing a great job, and we don't want to get in his way. We also have a loyal DROP bear conspirator near where he lives, with a big stick, incase he tries to get desperate and disconnect his computer or something.

So yeah, the rest of us are workinghard too. We got this 'forced slave labor' thing down pretty well I think.

And to answer the question about fully deleting a post, that isn't a feature a general user (or even a colonel) can do. But the mods are happy to, so you can PM any of us any time. I generally delete any posts with content that is duplicated or say something like "oops" or "double post" as I wander the boards.

And some of Fortune's posts here and there.

Posted by: nezumi Feb 7 2008, 02:17 PM

I am very impressed with Fist's management skills. He's clearly an unsung hero here and should be rewarded. Do we have any more books to give away? Redjack's? Go ahead and send Fist that one.

Posted by: Grinder Feb 7 2008, 02:34 PM

He already got rewarded by getting a personal upgrade to version 4.0.

Posted by: Redjack Feb 7 2008, 03:19 PM

Where is that 'Demote to Submember' group button at...? Or update member title to 'Dropbear PetPet'

Posted by: nezumi Feb 7 2008, 03:28 PM

Oh, you know I'm just teasing.

Hey... Hey, what happened to my title??

Posted by: Fortune Feb 7 2008, 03:31 PM

Well really he needed it. I mean, the old version was getting rather worn out and senile. Unfortunately, as far as I have seen so far, the upgrade doesn't seem to be totally successful though. Pity!

Posted by: fistandantilus4.0 Feb 7 2008, 03:41 PM

2 karma for Redjack!


Mine was simply an upgrade in prettiness. Functionality remains at the same low end of the spectrum. I am pleased to report that you can expect the same half-assed, sarcastic, seldom there performance you're used to.

Posted by: Fortune Feb 7 2008, 03:44 PM

Woe is me!

Posted by: Redjack Feb 7 2008, 03:48 PM

I only threatened to change it...

Posted by: Tanka Feb 7 2008, 05:22 PM

I call shenanigans!

Posted by: Kyoto Kid Feb 7 2008, 09:21 PM

...So now I see a few more cosmetic changes.

For one, the current page highlight colour isn't yellow anymore which makes it eaiser to see the page number you're on.

Next, the Letter icon next to the thread title on forum contents pages is now in colour and diappears if you have read a reply. I also see there's a more visible "locked" icon as well. However the one I don't get is the red "iron cross" icon. What is that supposed to signify?

Posted by: deek Feb 7 2008, 09:41 PM

Love the new icons...Thanks!!!

Posted by: Redjack Feb 7 2008, 09:49 PM

Big cross hairs.. Means you've posted to the topic. (Just finished updating the legend at the bottom of the page.)

Posted by: Vegas Feb 7 2008, 09:55 PM

Seriously LOVE the new icons. So much easier to read and makes a quick hit to DSF a lot simpler to weed out what needs attention ASAP and what can wait.


You're a ROCKSTAR Redjack... if you ever figure out what's jacking my post count I'll have to officially start a harem in your honour

Posted by: Thanee Feb 7 2008, 10:51 PM

Yeah, the icons are a definite improvement. Thanks!

The crosshairs could be seperated a bit better from the green envelope to better see them, but otherwise it works.

Great idea to have no icon at all for topics you have read already!

Bye
Thanee

Posted by: Kyoto Kid Feb 7 2008, 11:05 PM

...Thanks. Now in agreement that they make things clearer.

Posted by: Grinder Feb 8 2008, 12:38 AM

The Multiquote-feature doesn't work anymore. I can't select more than one posting to quote.

Posted by: Platinum Feb 8 2008, 02:01 AM

Love the icons, can't wait for custom. But what is there is great.

I find the forums really hard to read now. The colour contrast of the grey and white are more difficult to read than the old forums.

I really don't like sr3 and sr4 forums being combined. People are not tagging their posts, and I wind up reading about a whole bunch of stuff that I don't want to.

Logo is fine ... but too small.

The functionality you guys re-implemented in here is fantastic... big kudos for doing so.

Posted by: Redjack Feb 8 2008, 02:40 AM

Now THAT was motivation.....


Yea... but not today


Just used it. Worked fine. Try clicking once on Multiquote for each post you want to quote, then click Add Reply.


Yea, I'm about ready to start tagging them myself....

Posted by: Vegas Feb 8 2008, 02:54 AM

Wow. I think I must start on that Harem now Any requests?

Thanks a zillion Redjack... I no longer have to be some weird ghost on DSF.

Posted by: Thanee Feb 8 2008, 06:35 AM

Just what came to mind... if I find the time today, I'm gonna change it a little and post the icon here. You can use that, then, if you want.

Bye
Thanee

Posted by: Grinder Feb 8 2008, 08:52 AM

(Muötiquote not working)

Sorry, not for me. It worked the first few days, but not since yesterday. When I select (by clicking once on "Multiquote") two postings, the first one is un-selected when I select the second one.

Posted by: Elve Feb 8 2008, 09:29 AM

Works for me...

Posted by: Fortune Feb 8 2008, 09:36 AM

I don't seem to have a problem with it.

Posted by: Grinder Feb 8 2008, 09:47 AM

Gnnnn... now it works for me too.

Computers are my friends, computers are my friends...

Posted by: Fortune Feb 8 2008, 10:05 AM

It's cool. I have been looking for a reason to try the feature out anyway.

Posted by: Grinder Feb 8 2008, 10:07 AM

Posted by: Tanka Feb 9 2008, 01:06 AM

So I just got logged out, probably because my router was behaving oddly.

One thing I noticed while logged out: Emoticons don't show up. You get an image source link, but no actual image.

By design or mistake?

Posted by: Redjack Feb 9 2008, 01:11 AM

Design. Guests do not see avatars, etc.

Posted by: Fortune Feb 9 2008, 01:56 AM

Did you institute a feature that checks open and closed tags? I just got an error message (correctly) that prevented me from posting, while telling me that my tags didn't tally.

Posted by: Redjack Feb 9 2008, 02:10 AM

I have found several tweaks and features (meant in the true sense of the word, rather than the Microsoft definition) since we upgraded. The post checking was one I definitely liked. While not perfect, it is a good step forward.

Posted by: Fortune Feb 9 2008, 02:32 AM

Yeah, it's nice. Might cut down on those edits I have to make to correct my clumsy typing.

Posted by: Tanka Feb 10 2008, 05:56 AM

Bandwidth conservation, I'm assuming?

Posted by: Kagetenshi Feb 10 2008, 02:19 PM

[b]Testing

Edit: wait, what actually triggers the tag-checker?[/i]

Edit^2: obviously nothing useful

~J

Posted by: Fortune Feb 10 2008, 03:42 PM

Unmatched 'quote' tags triggered it for me.

Posted by: Thanee Feb 10 2008, 04:03 PM

Found some nice free icons to use as a base in the meantime, but didn't find the time to really put something together, yet.

Definitely gonna post some ideas (hopefully) soon (next couple days or so), though.

Bye
Thanee

Posted by: Kagetenshi Feb 10 2008, 08:23 PM

[/quote]
[quote name='Fortune' date='Feb 10 2008, 10:42 AM' post='633318']
Unmatched 'quote' tags triggered it for me.


But not for me.

Not either way, apparently.

~J

Posted by: Fortune Feb 10 2008, 08:47 PM

[quote[But not for me.[/quote]

Strange.

Edit: The 'bad quote' above is exactly what gave me an error message (and prevented posting) last time. This time I got no such message, obviously. Maybe the function was disengaged while fixing something else.

Posted by: Moon-Hawk Feb 12 2008, 10:11 PM

How come when I quote a post with a quote in it, I only quote the text from that post, but not the sub-quoted text? That sentence doesn't even make sense.
Okay, so if I were to quote Tanka's post up there, I wouldn't get Redjack's quote from that very same post, just the stuff that Tanka added. No more nested quote of a quote of a quote. Is that a bug or a feature?

Posted by: Fortune Feb 12 2008, 10:35 PM

It's a feature, according to Redjack.

Posted by: Redjack Feb 12 2008, 11:08 PM

Yea, I'm thinking that is a feature more in the 'Microsoft' sense of the word...

Posted by: Fortune Feb 12 2008, 11:22 PM

Meh! I hate Quote Trees, and can usually follow the conversation well enough (and can refer back if I lost track), so it doesn't really bother me.

Posted by: Stahlseele Feb 12 2008, 11:22 PM

i must have pushed a wrong button somewhere < = blatant Tron Reference
because now i get this kinda view only when trying to look at threads:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2202/2261733852_172ea4f4c2_o_d.jpg
anybody know how to fix it so it goes back to old style postings? x.x . .

Posted by: Moon-Hawk Feb 12 2008, 11:27 PM

Oh, okay. I understand, I just wasn't sure if it was supposed to be like that.

You know what the biggest surprise for me was in the new boards? My own post count.

Posted by: Redjack Feb 13 2008, 02:21 AM

You are in outline mode. Go to the right side of the top green bar on that page and click on 'Options'.
Second from the bottom is Standard or Switch to Standard.

Posted by: Stahlseele Feb 13 2008, 09:47 AM

aaaaah! Much better now!
thanks Redjack ^^

Posted by: tisoz Feb 13 2008, 03:28 PM

The tagging discipline is actually better than I foresaw. Maybe the admins are going through and editing them?

Solutions I have thought to try:

Respond to the thread as though it pertained to the edition you want to read about. When someone says the poster was referring to edition X, or better yet, that it was obvious from "some edition specific language" that the original poster was referring to edition X, act all innocent and reply that you were confused by the omission of any edition tag.

Nag Politely ask the original poster to properly tag his thread. If the thread cannot be tagged after posting by the OP, politely asking will do no real good for that thread, but it will serve as a polite nag for everyone else.

Nag Politely request the admins to edit the thread to include the proper tag.

I do like the concept of having all the editions combined and using the edition tags, but edition tag discipline needs to be observed to make it work.

If there is a good solution, such as mandatory edition tagging to post a new thread, or something else, I am all for hearing about it.

Posted by: Tanka Feb 13 2008, 04:08 PM

It's, unfortunately, one of the "upgrades" IPB decided to use instead of keeping quote trees.

Granted, there was a way a few versions back to overload the thread and make it load up blank after so many quote tree quotes.

Why they can't just have it check how deep the tree is and automatically prune is beyond me.

Posted by: Tanka Feb 13 2008, 04:10 PM

Double post, blah blah blah.

Any way to make the navigation links at the top of the page change color on hover? (Dumpshock Forums > Discussion > etc etc)

I'm a stickler for knowing when a link is a link and when text is just text. Not being able to differentiate easily is kind of annoying, to be honest.

Posted by: Telion Feb 14 2008, 07:50 PM

I've also found finding some of the SR3 posts hard to locate, is or will there be any means to filter the board so I can avoid scrolling for posts on a version?

Something where I could filter out SR4 material based on the tags or something of the sort would be beneficial.