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Posted by: Chrysalis Jul 12 2009, 06:36 PM

Greets,

I have tried from over 5 different ISPs to access forums.dumpshock.com and www.dumpshock.com with several different devices.

The only way I can access the website is through a IP anonymizer.

There are no trouble with any other websites or with internet traffic in general.

I can only assume that since yesterday for some reason all Finnish IPs have been blocked.

Could you please sort this out?

Thanks,

-Chrysalis

Posted by: Redjack Jul 12 2009, 07:18 PM

We are not blocking anyone. If there is an issue connecting due to blocking between there and here, we are unable to affect that.

Posted by: Aaron Jul 12 2009, 10:19 PM

Doesn't Finland have a law for blocking IP addresses flagged as child porn? Might something have tripped that?

Posted by: Dumori Jul 13 2009, 06:58 AM

Chrysalis maybe you should try contacting what ever authority is in charge of blacklisting sites to find a reason for thsi ban and if so petition against it or inform the sites admins why its been banned/blocked so they can petition against it (the latter seams the better idea)

Edit: I did a quick data search but I cant find the organisation's name thus any contact details. I my self oppose internet censorship expecily when its run by a non governmental agency like it is here in the UK and in Finland (by the looks of it). Leads to lots of cockups and legal grey areas.

Posted by: Chrysalis Jul 13 2009, 06:59 AM

It does and will show up as "this website has been blocked by krp.poliisi.fi". I didn't know dumpshock was a haven for kiddie porn though.

Posted by: Dumori Jul 13 2009, 07:04 AM

Its likely a mistyped DNS or some other imagined viation. Maybe after this indecent you will like me question the need for such censorship and how it seams to block site that have no need and not any that do.

Edit1: I've asked a few of my Finish contact to cheack it out one come back to me so far says its not for him.

Posted by: Stahlseele Jul 13 2009, 10:36 AM

Same Problem here.
I can't accessdumpshock from my main rig, but most other computers work.
Other people reported problems with accessing dumpshock.com too.
When i ask my vista diagonis it tells me dumpshock.-com was not found on dns server.

Posted by: Dumori Jul 13 2009, 12:10 PM

I've ask around some more finish people and it looks like its working for them.

Posted by: Stahlseele Jul 13 2009, 12:29 PM

I am in germany.
My Vista based Computer says the same my router does:
Not found/DNS not resolveable and with ping on IP that somehow got resolved no answer
My Laptops with vista can as far as i know access the site, as can my XP-Computer

Edit:
little update from my side of the pond:
Using america based proxy-servers works . . more or less . .
Using any kind of germany based DNS-Server or something like that does not let me access this page anymore . .

Edit2: ok, this is getting ever stranger . . no external DNS-Server worked, but when i put my connection back to automatically get DNS it started working again for some reason . .
so, all with problems, try some proxy, try some other DNS, put everything back to automatic, see if it works

Posted by: Sma Jul 13 2009, 10:07 PM

I'm experiencing intermittent access to dumpshock from germany as well.

When the problems pop up, the DNS entry for dumpshock.com does not get resolved, accessing the main page by IP still works.

Posted by: Naysayer Jul 13 2009, 10:24 PM

Huh.
This is the first time since what, Saturday, I believe, that I could access dumpshock.
All I got was a standard "unable to load page" error message.
I'm in Germany, too, btw.

Somebody must be gnawing at the landlines.

Posted by: Stahlseele Jul 13 2009, 10:54 PM

OK, so it MIGHT have been random coincidince that i am able to access the page again ._.

Posted by: Chrysalis Jul 14 2009, 12:08 AM

Works for me direct!

-Chrysalis

Posted by: knasser Jul 14 2009, 06:24 AM

I couldn't access Dumpshock at all for the last couple of days. ISP is Tiscali in the UK. Tiscali redirected to some search page. I tried from a work computer yesterday and just got no site returned at all. I assumed that the problem was therefore at Dumpshock's end and that worryingly, the domain had lapsed or something.

So just to confirm that other people could access this site and that there wasn't any downtime as far as the rest of the world is concerned?

If ISPs have decided to block this site (even in error, temporarily), then this is something we need to follow up. I despise censorship agencies.

K.

Posted by: Fuchs Jul 14 2009, 06:32 AM

First time since friday I could access the page from work or home or mobile phone. Always got an error message about no answers from the server. Switzerland.

Posted by: Stahlseele Jul 14 2009, 07:14 AM

Strange and ever stranger said alice O.o

Posted by: Naysayer Jul 14 2009, 10:13 AM

Well, I'll be fu*%ed!
Just tried to acces the Fear The Boot site, and guess what? No dice.
No problems whatsoever using a proxy, though.

What the fragfuck is going on here?
Time to have a little heart to heart with our local MdB?

Posted by: Fuchs Jul 14 2009, 10:43 AM

It's not limited to Germany, not even the EU I think.

Posted by: Naysayer Jul 14 2009, 10:51 AM

Doesn't matter WHO it hits, but I demand retribution!

Posted by: Prime Mover Jul 14 2009, 10:12 PM

No problems on east coast US. Sounds like an over the pond problem, good luck getting things resolved.

Posted by: Stahlseele Jul 14 2009, 10:24 PM

if you are talking about http://feartheboot.com/ try again, i got there with no problems right now.

Posted by: Dumori Jul 15 2009, 03:49 AM

DS has been fine for me same ISP as knasser this is getting stranger.

Posted by: knasser Jul 15 2009, 05:32 AM

I will email my ISP later. Work would probably be an even better place to query as they pretty much are their own ISP. as far as I understand the technical side of things. But I'd be reluctant to put a support query in for not being able to access a non-work site. Very odd that Dumori was fine with the same ISP. Dumori - you were able to access on Sunday / Monday ?

I talked to a friend about this and he thinks some of the ISPs might have been implementing either a censorlist that some agency distributes to multiple ISPs, or some bad DNS record got entered somewhere and got adopted by a number of ISPs before it was fixed. Apparently, DNS records (which translate domain names into ISP Addresses) get updated on a piecemeal basis. No idea why a bad record would get in or how Dumori and I can get different results on the same service. Can Dumori and I be using different DNS's even though we're on the same ISP?

K.

Posted by: Dumori Jul 15 2009, 09:33 AM

knasser sun/mon now i was having some hard wear issues but I think it was online. Looking at my posts I made a post on both days. Same ISP different DNS it could be possible might be based on our connection speed or even geographical location.

Posted by: cREbralFIX Jul 15 2009, 12:34 PM

DNS appears to be OK:

$ dig dumpshock.com

; <<>> DiG 9.4.3-P1 <<>> dumpshock.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 54172
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;dumpshock.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
dumpshock.com. 3600 IN A 208.75.131.6

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
dumpshock.com. 3600 IN NS ns43.domaincontrol.com.
dumpshock.com. 3600 IN NS ns44.domaincontrol.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns43.domaincontrol.com. 26455 IN A 216.69.185.22
ns44.domaincontrol.com. 71377 IN A 208.109.255.22

;; Query time: 7 msec
;; SERVER: 10.2.95.39#53(10.2.95.39)
;; WHEN: Wed Jul 15 08:23:52 2009
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 131

$ dig forums.dumpshock.com

; <<>> DiG 9.4.2 <<>> forums.dumpshock.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 54988
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;forums.dumpshock.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
forums.dumpshock.com. 3600 IN A 208.75.131.6

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
dumpshock.com. 3600 IN NS ns43.domaincontrol.com.
dumpshock.com. 3600 IN NS ns44.domaincontrol.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns43.domaincontrol.com. 30562 IN A 216.69.185.22
ns44.domaincontrol.com. 30562 IN A 208.109.255.22

;; Query time: 149 msec
;; SERVER: 64.236.1.75#53(64.236.1.75)
;; WHEN: Wed Jul 15 08:25:08 2009
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 138

$ dig @ns43.domaincontrol.com forums.dumpshock.com

; <<>> DiG 9.4.2 <<>> @ns43.domaincontrol.com forums.dumpshock.com
; (1 server found)
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 22873
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;forums.dumpshock.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
forums.dumpshock.com. 3600 IN A 208.75.131.6

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
dumpshock.com. 3600 IN NS ns43.domaincontrol.com.
dumpshock.com. 3600 IN NS ns44.domaincontrol.com.

;; Query time: 2 msec
;; SERVER: 216.69.185.22#53(216.69.185.22)
;; WHEN: Wed Jul 15 08:25:59 2009
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 106

$ dig @ns44.domaincontrol.com forums.dumpshock.com

; <<>> DiG 9.4.2 <<>> @ns44.domaincontrol.com forums.dumpshock.com
; (1 server found)
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 62123
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;forums.dumpshock.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
forums.dumpshock.com. 3600 IN A 208.75.131.6

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
dumpshock.com. 3600 IN NS ns43.domaincontrol.com.
dumpshock.com. 3600 IN NS ns44.domaincontrol.com.

;; Query time: 2 msec
;; SERVER: 208.109.255.22#53(208.109.255.22)
;; WHEN: Wed Jul 15 08:26:50 2009
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 106


$ whois dumpshock.com
[Querying whois.internic.net]
[Redirected to whois.godaddy.com]
[Querying whois.godaddy.com]
[whois.godaddy.com]
The data contained in GoDaddy.com, Inc.'s WhoIs database,
while believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is"
with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This
information is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you
in obtaining information about domain name registration records.
Any use of this data for any other purpose is expressly forbidden without the prior written
permission of GoDaddy.com, Inc. By submitting an inquiry,
you agree to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty. In particular,
you agree not to use this data to allow, enable, or otherwise make possible,
dissemination or collection of this data, in part or in its entirety, for any
purpose, such as the transmission of unsolicited advertising and
and solicitations of any kind, including spam. You further agree
not to use this data to enable high volume, automated or robotic electronic
processes designed to collect or compile this data for any purpose,
including mining this data for your own personal or commercial purposes.

Please note: the registrant of the domain name is specified
in the "registrant" field. In most cases, GoDaddy.com, Inc.
is not the registrant of domain names listed in this database.


Registrant:
Mark Imbriaco
929 Marshall Farm St
Wake Forest, North Carolina 27587
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: DUMPSHOCK.COM
Created on: 22-Jan-00
Expires on: 22-Jan-10
Last Updated on: 07-Jan-09

Administrative Contact:
Imbriaco, Mark mark@imbriaco.com
929 Marshall Farm St
Wake Forest, North Carolina 27587
United States
9199268520 Fax --

Technical Contact:
Imbriaco, Mark mark@imbriaco.com
929 Marshall Farm St
Wake Forest, North Carolina 27587
United States
9199268520 Fax --

Domain servers in listed order:
NS43.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
NS44.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

The domain has not expired and will not expire until January 22, 2010. Godaddy will spam the owner with registration emails, so he cannot possibly forget. They may even call him; they're pretty good about that.

The registered name servers are correct. The DNS resource records are loaded and correct.

Next, you'll want to traceroute to 208.75.131.6. Keep that handy. I would call whoever runs that router and explain to them that dumpshock is a game site and there is no objectionable content here. Perhaps they'll lift the ACL.

Posted by: Naysayer Jul 15 2009, 01:02 PM

You sure? You seen some of the threads round here?

Little sit-rep:
No problems accessing DS so far.
No problems accessing any other sites, either.
In fact, everything seems smooth for now.
(Someone had posted a link to us.onionmaps or somesuch, and that didn't work for me yesterday. Now, it's fine too.)

If things start acting up again, I'll light the beacons.

Posted by: Dumori Jul 15 2009, 10:45 PM

It seams like an iffy router or two some place but really it seams to have fixed its self now.

Posted by: Warlordtheft Jul 17 2009, 01:54 PM

Could it be all the game related hacking threads of late?

Posted by: DireRadiant Jul 17 2009, 02:36 PM

Yes, if you have different DNS servers at the same ISP.

This whole issue looks like some bad DNS got into the DNS propagation process. The DNS servers themselves get their DNS data from their own set of reference servers, and if one of those trusted servers has a mistake it can be pushed everywhere.

The DumpSshock host also screws up there internal DNS entries internally, the last few times the site has been unavailable generally has been because they built an internal loop on their own two DNS servers which has a DNS resolution bouncing between two of their internal servers for hours.

In the above case, if that got out and then was immediately corrected, you can run into a situation where the propagation speed differences could cause some people not to notice anything at all since their DNS entries were either never updated incorrectly, or were updated and then reupdated so quickly no one notices. For others, they may have the bad DNS picked up, and then not corrected for a day or two. All based on timing. I especailly suspect this is the case since the reported problems are with the euro DNS server entries, which probably don't update US DNS entries as quickly they do their own region.

Posted by: Dumori Jul 20 2009, 08:23 PM

Well it just hit me for a few hours.