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post Oct 11 2010, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE (Christian Lafay @ Oct 10 2010, 12:41 PM) *
Darwinism strikes again!


I'm not quite as worried about the people who can afford $1,000 toys and $20,000 cars with full air bags and reinforced passenger compartments as I am about the pedestrians and drivers around them.

Stupid people have a tremendous survivability factor which the people around them sometimes lack.
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post Oct 11 2010, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE (Christian Lafay @ Oct 9 2010, 04:22 PM) *
Or if it was hooked up to a GPS thingamajig to draw the line on the road in front of you. No more having the GPS blocking a part of your windshield or having to try and eye it out the corner of your eye. Wasn't there a car that tried a HUD awhile back? With night vision and everything?



BMW, its been on Top Gear, also they have a test model with a GPS directed auto-pilot, that to has been on Top Gear.
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post Oct 11 2010, 06:13 PM
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On that Note... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11508351
Google tests autodriving cars in California. Only problem that cropped up was someone rear-ending their car lightly...
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post Oct 11 2010, 06:32 PM
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The Google cars seems to have relied more on internal databases then external indicators for speed limits and such tho.
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post Oct 11 2010, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Oct 11 2010, 08:41 AM) *
And if it was not for the deep pockets of the industry, would have been banned as a useless health risk long ago.


Why would we? We haven't banned candy bars. Or onion rings.
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post Oct 11 2010, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Oct 11 2010, 08:32 AM) *
The Google cars seems to have relied more on internal databases then external indicators for speed limits and such tho.

Isn't that what GridGuide™ is?
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post Oct 11 2010, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE (ProfGast @ Oct 11 2010, 09:22 PM) *
Isn't that what GridGuide™ is?

i guess so, augmented with on the fly wireless updates.
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post Oct 11 2010, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE (Christian Lafay @ Oct 11 2010, 08:52 PM) *
Why would we? We haven't banned candy bars. Or onion rings.

Both have a (small) nutritional value. Hell, a candy bar may save a diabetics life from time to time.
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post Oct 12 2010, 02:03 PM
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Don't question the influence of the Chocolate Lobby.
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post Oct 12 2010, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE (nezumi @ Oct 12 2010, 04:03 PM) *
Don't question the influence of the Chocolate Lobby.

It has delicious arguments.
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post Oct 12 2010, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE (Blade @ Oct 12 2010, 03:12 PM) *
It has delicious arguments.

And the payoffs are sweet. Still doesn't make any more sense then Big Tobacco or Not Quite As Big As Big Tobacco But Still Pretty Large So Don't Think Otherwise Alcohol.
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post Oct 13 2010, 01:38 AM
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QUOTE (nezumi @ Oct 9 2010, 07:07 AM) *
What's really dangerous is shining light out from your eyes. (Bet you can't find an faq debunking that.)

My wife points out that just what we need is people doing AR while they're driving. I think this technology should perhaps be put on the back burner until we get smarter cars.


Like the new google cars that drive themselves?
Or fighter planes that use HUD tech and have used it for years.
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post Oct 13 2010, 08:01 AM
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/10/pioneer...e-home-connect/
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post Oct 13 2010, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE (nezumi @ Oct 12 2010, 02:03 PM) *
Don't question the influence of the Chocolate Lobby.


Just what we need. S'more lobbyists. They're only contributing to the decay of society.
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post Oct 13 2010, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE (SecGuard @ Oct 13 2010, 07:04 PM) *
Society's overrated anyway.


Which is why they need to shake it up some. Maybe have a bloody sundae.
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post Oct 14 2010, 05:29 AM
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Sadly, people are apparently dumb enough to be using smartphones whilst driving even without an AR visor...

"Over a fifth of drivers check social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter whilst behind the wheel, research has shown."

http://www.itpro.co.uk/627643/fifth-of-mot...ia-when-driving
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post Oct 14 2010, 08:53 AM
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http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2010/...f_a_button.html

self-driving taxi (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Oct 17 2010, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE (Mayhem_2006 @ Oct 13 2010, 10:29 PM) *
Sadly, people are apparently dumb enough to be using smartphones whilst driving even without an AR visor...

"Over a fifth of drivers check social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter whilst behind the wheel, research has shown."

http://www.itpro.co.uk/627643/fifth-of-mot...ia-when-driving


Over a fifth of drivers should be involuntarily euthanized.

Also, what the hell are the point of lobbyists? I'm not a polisci major so I really don't know. Do they just bully the government into passing favourable or not passing unfavourable legislation? Unless my understanding is wrong, how the hell can that even exist?
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post Oct 17 2010, 07:16 PM
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Supposedly they are there to inform and remind politicians about issues. One way to look at them would be as humanoid megaphones.

Problem is that the deep pockets of corporations, and certain individuals, allow them bigger megaphones then the common joe.
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post Oct 17 2010, 07:47 PM
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Ah thanks. I guess what bugs me is since when is the government open to debate? I mean they might meely-mouth over certain issues here and there, but when they put their foot down that's it.

It's my understanding (which could be flawed since I'm not a yank and I have no concrete figures) that the majority of Americans didn't want to go back into Iraq and start a war, but the government did it anyway.

Lobbying just seems to me to be like a way of legalizing bribery, blackmail, and other strong arm tactics.
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post Oct 17 2010, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE (Rayzorblades @ Oct 17 2010, 03:47 PM) *
Ah thanks. I guess what bugs me is since when is the government open to debate? I mean they might meely-mouth over certain issues here and there, but when they put their foot down that's it.


In the US, it's ALWAYS up for debate.

That's the whole point of democracy. Everyone gets a say.

Every person in power is put there by their local citizenry, and whether or not they get to keep that job is up to that citizenry.

So it is wise for those people in power to listen to the people that cast the votes in elections.

Of course, this is complicated by the fact that getting elected is an expensive process, and there are groups willing to donate large sums of money towards certain candidates, with the expectation that those donations will be reciprocated with a willingness to see things their way.

There were a large number of anti-war folks.

The thing is, and this is what a lot of folks including the media at the time [edit]missed[/edit], there were also a lot of pro-war folks.

And the pro-war folks happened to have their candidates in power at the time.



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post Oct 17 2010, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Oct 17 2010, 10:05 PM) *
The thing is, and this is what a lot of folks including the media at the time, there were also a lot of pro-war folks.

That is perhaps the sad thing. Media have become much more overtly biased, while at the same time loudly proclaiming their supposed neutrality.

As such, the supposed 4th power have gone from reporting on the activities of others to attempting to direct public opinion. And so by proxy direct the decisions made.
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post Oct 17 2010, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (KarmaInferno @ Oct 17 2010, 09:05 PM) *
In the US, it's ALWAYS up for debate.

That's the whole point of democracy. Everyone gets a say.

Every person in power is put there by their local citizenry, and whether or not they get to keep that job is up to that citizenry.

So it is wise for those people in power to listen to the people that cast the votes in elections.

Of course, this is complicated by the fact that getting elected is an expensive process, and there are groups willing to donate large sums of money towards certain candidates, with the expectation that those donations will be reciprocated with a willingness to see things their way.

There were a large number of anti-war folks.

The thing is, and this is what a lot of folks including the media at the time [edit]missed[/edit], there were also a lot of pro-war folks.

And the pro-war folks happened to have their candidates in power at the time.

-k


But it seems that most pro-war folks are so out of ignorance. Not all of them, obviously, but enough to be shocking. Those that either aren't sure who we are fighting or why but they must be bad because the govt tells me so, ala 1984, and those that believe that we can still be a war economy and that fighting will fix the budget. These crocodile tears or "Let's not forget 9/11" should have long since dried up. Japan, as a mass, has forgotten August 6th and August 9th enough for open trade to be established. Why can't we be similar?

And I'm still waiting for my vote to count in a presidential election.
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Erm, could we return this to the fascinating discussion about the possibilities of proto-AR tech? This looks like it's in danger of getting shut down or sparking into a flame war, and I'd hate for either to happen.
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