 How to pronounce Shiawase, Renraku and Fuchi ? |
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 Oct 19 2010, 12:54 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 935 Joined: 2-September 10 Member No.: 19,000  |
On the topic, and forgive me if this is obvious...how do you correctly pronounce Ehran?
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Oct 19 2010, 01:36 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 |
QUOTE (Neurosis @ Oct 18 2010, 07:54 PM)  On the topic, and forgive me if this is obvious...how do you correctly pronounce Ehran? Eh? Ran? That's my best guess, but I don't really know. |
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Oct 19 2010, 02:40 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,011 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
QUOTE (ProfGast @ Oct 18 2010, 06:23 PM) I COULD have used Romaji but answering "how do you pronounce 'Shiawase'" by replying "shi-a-wa-se" is kinda a jerk or smartass thing to do. Rendering it in the appropriate kana would be even worse. On that note, I always pronounce Fuchi like in 鬼が淵沼 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) But yeah. I didn't know that Shiawase was a legitimate surname until I looked it up for this thread; still probably pulled out of some dev's random Japanese vocabulary, but I'm willing to award a point even if it is by accident. ~J |
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Oct 19 2010, 04:10 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 28-September 10 Member No.: 19,081 |
I also say it like that. Though since I don't exactly have any formal training in Japanese I had to spend some time translating what you wrote >_<
@Neurosis: I mentally read the name similar to the name "Aaron". Only more pretentious. Or I just stick to "Wordsmyth" |
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Oct 19 2010, 05:28 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 935 Joined: 2-September 10 Member No.: 19,000 |
QUOTE (Karoline @ Oct 18 2010, 08:36 PM) Eh? Ran? That's my best guess, but I don't really know. With the interrogative upward lilts and everything? : P |
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Oct 19 2010, 05:36 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Shiawase:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrnHY2KcEwM Yeah, no, i don't think i'll ever be able to take that one serious again, after seeing/hearing this video song ^^ |
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Oct 19 2010, 06:03 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 28-September 10 Member No.: 19,081 |
I think my brain is shutting down trying to understand how that guy filled an auditorium with fans while singing "If you're happy and you know it."
I... ... yeah no I got nothing. |
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Oct 19 2010, 06:34 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 |
QUOTE (Neurosis @ Oct 19 2010, 12:28 AM) With the interrogative upward lilts and everything? : P On the 'eh' part yes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Oct 19 2010, 08:30 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
QUOTE (ProfGast @ Oct 19 2010, 08:03 AM) I think my brain is shutting down trying to understand how that guy filled an auditorium with fans while singing "If you're happy and you know it." I... ... yeah no I got nothing. *snickers* |
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Oct 19 2010, 01:17 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 155 Joined: 7-July 10 Member No.: 18,799 |
Very relevant:
Shiawase in a pop song (kinda)... |
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Oct 22 2010, 01:58 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
She-ah-waas, Ren-rah-koo, fu-she
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Oct 22 2010, 07:59 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Foo(t/d)-G
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Oct 22 2010, 11:22 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 15-March 09 Member No.: 16,968 |
QUOTE (The Grue Master @ Oct 19 2010, 10:17 AM) Very relevant: Shiawase in a pop song (kinda)... Thanks. Now gimme a song for Renraku. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) |
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Oct 22 2010, 12:54 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 748 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Vermont Member No.: 11,507 |
QUOTE (Karoline @ Oct 18 2010, 12:26 PM) But it is also nice to know how they would be pronounced. I'm sure that any ads for example would have the correct pronunciation. Is it Toe-yoe-ta or Toy-yoda... |
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Oct 22 2010, 01:02 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Near my daughters, Lansdale PA Member No.: 6,668 |
If you mean the current car company, both. The cars are Toy-oh-tah. The family that owns the company is Toy-oh-da.
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Oct 22 2010, 01:26 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,011 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Huh. I'd always heard that "Toyota" was a localization error that got backported, but apparently it was just executive preference.
~J |
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Oct 22 2010, 02:27 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 28-September 10 Member No.: 19,081 |
QUOTE (silva @ Oct 22 2010, 01:22 AM) Unfortunately, after a little digging, all I can give you is how a vocaloid would say it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2d3pNQVges "renraku" spoken at about 1:38. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotate.gif) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWats2Yyy2E For female voice vocaloid, above link aroud 1:56-58. Same song though |
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Oct 23 2010, 02:01 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
With the RL Japanese company I think they were originally an aircraft company or at least air engines and branched into cars but wanted a different name so the two would not be confused. Maybe the 1 letter change is significant to the Japanese ear in a way english speakers can't appreciate.
QUOTE (Neurosis @ Oct 18 2010, 07:54 PM) On the topic, and forgive me if this is obvious...how do you correctly pronounce Ehran? For some reason I seem to recall it as air-heh-ran |
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Oct 23 2010, 05:12 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,679 Joined: 19-September 09 Member No.: 17,652 |
QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Oct 23 2010, 09:01 AM) Maybe the 1 letter change is significant to the Japanese ear in a way english speakers can't appreciate. It is. Japanese can be difficult to listen to because very slight differences can make huge differences in meaning. A double vowel for example (pp compared to just p) is generally impossible to distinguish in English, but very important in Japanese. |
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Oct 23 2010, 05:25 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,011 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
QUOTE (Snow_Fox @ Oct 23 2010, 10:01 AM) With the RL Japanese company I think they were originally an aircraft company or at least air engines and branched into cars but wanted a different name so the two would not be confused. Maybe the 1 letter change is significant to the Japanese ear in a way english speakers can't appreciate. Wikipedia's version of events has it being someone who married into the family (and thus wasn't attached to the name) preferring a "lucky" number of brush strokes and the appearance and sound without the voicing. The change in sound probably is lost on an English-speaking audience, since the pronunciation of both the t-sound and d-sound is subtly different than is typical in English ("less forceful" is about the best I can capture it). ~J |
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Oct 23 2010, 05:37 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 164 Joined: 22-November 05 From: Omaha, western UCAS Member No.: 7,993 |
Phonetically speaking, that's the difference between a voiced and voiceless velar stop... the t being voiceless, for all its "force."
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Oct 25 2010, 06:45 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 222 Joined: 28-November 09 From: In ur ba5e, killin' ur d00dz. Member No.: 17,910 |
Quick notes from my old Nihongo Journal:
Japanese is flat. It has very few, if any, stressed or emphasized syllables. It is not OI-shii, o-II-shii, or o-i-SHII. Simply oi-shii. [Still can't remember why, for the life of my, I chose the word "yummy, Tasty" for this example...] 'a' as in father 'e' as in play 'i' as in week 'o' as in October 'u' as in shoot For all of its strange intricacies, the language is simplistic in its pronounciation. At least they don't have to deal with "your; you're" "there, their, they're" or "Hoarse, horse, whores" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Oct 25 2010, 06:51 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 28-September 10 Member No.: 19,081 |
QUOTE (Adrian Korvedzk @ Oct 24 2010, 08:45 PM) For all of its strange intricacies, the language is simplistic in its pronounciation. At least they don't have to deal with "your; you're" "there, their, they're" or "Hoarse, horse, whores" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Amen that. Rough, Bough, Dough. Three words. Same except for first letter. Three different pronunciations. WTF english! Added to that there's different accents, like pronouncing "Sheep" like "Ship" or if people pronounce "Our" as "hour" or "are". |
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Oct 25 2010, 07:37 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 297 Joined: 11-April 10 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 18,443 |
QUOTE (Daddy's Little Ninja @ Oct 22 2010, 09:02 AM) If you mean the current car company, both. The cars are Toy-oh-tah. The family that owns the company is Toy-oh-da. There is no "toy" sound in Japanese. It is To Yo Ta (rhymes with go no ha). The family's name is Toyoda, same rhyme. Mesh |
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Oct 25 2010, 10:47 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 |
QUOTE (ProfGast @ Oct 18 2010, 11:10 PM) @Neurosis: I mentally read the name similar to the name "Aaron". Only more pretentious. Or I just stick to "Wordsmyth" Yeah, that's always annoyed me about that particular immortal elf. Although I suppose he's old enough for it to be pronounced with a Semitic (Arabic/Amharic/Hebrew) accent, so it would be "ech-ran," with the glottal fricative 'ch' like in German. That kinda amuses me; I should start pronouncing his name like that from now on. |
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