The clutch thing was a dig at the maturity of the dragon. Like making fun of your 40 year old brother who still lives in your parent's basement. The idea being why be a shadowrunner for Lowfyr -- who was probably minding the clutch you were in -- when you can strike out on your own? I totally agree with your "predators...not sheep" statement but the same goes for coattail riding.

As a GM I'd ask you to come up with some other sort of motivation to run. Especially when you have a day job where most GMs tell you to retire the character after character creation and make a new one that actually needs to run.

The story is something like, she's been trying to get in good with SK in order to attract Lofwyrs attention and get him to teach her the deeper mysteries of Dragon Magic. So she's got good reasons to work for SK, doing runs for them and acting as a bodyguard from time to time.

;D



That is untrue, unless you have a source to back it up.

I could swear I read some exchange between Dunkelzahn and Harlequin, Dunkelzahn was in metahuman form, talking aloud.

I'll see if I can dig it up, but basically its Frosty talking to Harlequin about how a dragon showed up wanting to talk to him and asking if she should let him in. He says to ask the dragon and she wonders how he'll be able to fit inside. She asks the dragon if he wants to come in, he changed to metahuman form surprising Frosty and he goes in to chat with Harlequin about making an appearance on his trid show. The topic of this episode would be revealing a bunch of secrets and Harlequin says no because he feels that depriving humanity of the opportunity to discover things for themselves would be bad.

Dragons of the Sixth World p. 18 & 178
SR4a p. 303

Dragons don't have vocal cords, so they have to use translators or draconic speech.

If this is off-set by anything it would make my job easier.

I remember reading that too, but I think the chat could have been in draco speech. I don't remember it saying one way or the other.

I'd just like something concrete in case someone throws out that Brackhaus can't be Lofwyr because they heard him talking via recording. If not, then I'll come up with an alternative plan to throw them off base.

They cant talk in their true form but if they assume metahuman form via a spell or special ability (like the great dragons have) they are able to do so (as then they have access to vocal chords).

Underlined for emphasis.

Where did you find that quote? Im looking and I cant find it.

I copied it out of my prior post, here's the quote with all its header data.

Oh, Duh, I was looking in the books to see if it was a quote from there /facepalm.

Yeah, I cant find anything prohibiting a dragon from speaking in metahuman form.

My problem is that I can't seem to find anything that says they can, and I'd rather not come down on one side or the other without some evidence to back me up.

Yeah, I was talking back at Fortinbras as I was saying that "can't speak in metahuman form" was blatantly untrue and I wanted evidence. All he supplied was the general "dragon's don't have vocal chords" bit, so I had to emphasis the part I wanted him to back up.

Opened this thread, to give this discussion it its own topic and keep mine on track (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .