I'll come right out and say this. I think you're fooling yourself if you think a CZ could possibly pull off being a face. In addition to the certainty of some form of mental illness which will likely prevent such a character from interacting normally with society, the prejudice of society against cyberzombies (as unnatural, monsterous killing machines), will likely prove just as crippling to any pretense of acting as a team's face-man.

Perhaps you can compensate for this weakness to a degree... possibly with more invasive surgery and augmentation. Keep in mind, however, that you will ALWAYS be working at a disadvantage when trying to make a cyberzombie into a social butterfly.

It'd be an interesting character, if not a good face... anymore. Tragic, in many ways, as his old contacts one by one stop calling him and he's slowly abandoned by the people he's done favors for in the past. Trying to stay sane, trying to care enough about anyone to keep the friends he still has... because eventually, the people who hung him out to dry will have been right to do so. Should appeal to the WoD player, anyway.

But why on earth do they want you play a CZ while needing a face? If you want a really freaky face character, play a Pixie mystical adept surged with Glamour. And when the drek hits the fan, hide yourself inside the drone body of your cyborg chummer.

One thing I don't think I saw anyone mention is that a Face doesn't always have to be a lovely individual... just being Intimidating as fuck can do wonders. I think a CZ fits that bill...

Yeah, this could be a problem. I just don't think 'Day Job' covers being a trip A's one-man-WMD, so I figured I'd have to be independent.

I have run a Freaks campaign, and they can be very fun (Weretiger, Ghoul, Vampire, Cyber Zombie and an Ex-Bug City Fire Watch officer who was the scariest of the lot).
As has already been said, simply don't grade that ware. Simplly being able to go above 6 essense loss, along with the other benefits makes a CZ a powerful character.
As for the Face part, I think more of Ghost in the Shell than Robocop for this one. A purely human looking person who barely has an ounce of flesh left in their perfectly sculpted artificial bodies. They could look, move and act with awe inspiring grace and cunning because that's how they've been MADE to be. The Face CZ (he or she?) may not feel emotions the same way any more, but be able to fake them perfectly. Also adds an easy escape story, since a Face CZ is much more likely to be able to disappear than a hulking death machine.

Just my 2 pence.

I ask as the rest of the party consist of a Cyborg, a Banshee, a pair of Nosferatu, and a Vampire. Also, we're playing in Sarajevo (the group currently resides in the sewers/abandoned underground tunnels) which as I understand it isn't exactly civilization.

I don't think a cyber-zombie could ever pull off being a face. The tragedy of having your soul ripped out of your body and then forcibly put back in is just too much. Also, being a face means (I think) you need to have the ability to take on multiple faces. Though this brings up the prospect of playing a schizophrenic character, I think this could be achieved in a much cooler way...


By playing an AI possessing an almost human looking droid. Then you have access to all these crazy facets of skillsofts AND the insane sociopathic thing that wants...no...NEEDS to interact with metahumanity...all the time.

If you want to get really crazy, maybe somebody finally invented that Elven Bio-droid. I'm not sure how out there your GM wants to go.

I hope at least one of them is able to Cleanse, because otherwise most of their abilities are going to be severely crimped or even completely suppressed by your astral hazing - the cyborg is the only one unaffected.

For the drug situation, there is no indication of the difficulty to produce them.

If you plan to do them yourself you may face several hurdles :
- you need to figure out not only the active chemicals in them, but also the complete synthesis procedure
- you have to make sure the needed reagents are available, and those can get pretty exotic
- the processing time need to be short enough. If you need control of a facility for 48h then you are screwed, there is no way it would go unnoticed.
- the chemicals may degrade relatively quickly, meaning you need a fresh batch relatively often

But none of that is described anywhere, so it's up to your GM

I'll make sure the mage can Cleanse then. I was wondering, though, if I were a mage before the transformation, then my magic got kicked down to 1, and I initiate once, would I be able to Cleanse for myself? I'm not too familiar with how magic works...

your magic would have gotten kicked down to 0, and you would have lost your magic rating entirely and be unable to get it back.

Unless you initiated to initiate level 2 before the procedure, and you raise your magic score to an 8, and took no more than 7 points of essence loss.

The Hazing IS the BGC of 4.
Underground should be enough to hide.
Also, what did you think of Binky?

Underground, tunnels, caves, bunkers, the sort of thing . .
Yah, i wanted to absolutely go and take the concept beyond the limits ^^