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post Jun 1 2011, 05:54 AM
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Just got done running my first Shadowrun session, and my players acted too good. The mission was simple- Break into a biker compound out in the sprawl and shut down their 'Jazz' operation. Johnson just wanted the place destroyed, and no more bikies in the area. (I wanted a cut and dry mission to start things off, with a simple twist- innocent bystanders.)

The job was going good, until the players realized that there were innocents in the compound- some of the biker's families in nearby houses, and a few Jazz addicts roped into manufacturing the stuff in the lab itself. The group had botched a few aspects of recon earlier, and were planning to simply toss grenades/summon fire spirits/get the heck out. Players abandoned their plans and set about evacuating the place/stunning the bikers, even explaining their actions to the biker leader.

Here's the part that blew my mind. When it's all over and all they have to do is toss a few grenades in to finish the job, they blow up the Jazz as well. All four of them, in an instant, agreed to blow up the drugs. I was like "wut?"

Anyone else have players act just too darn nice before?

EDIT: Woot, looks like I've stirred something up with this one. Came home to find four pages of comments, a personal best. My replies on page 4.


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- Wolfgar   They Burned the Drugs!   Jun 1 2011, 05:54 AM
- - TheOOB   That kind of stuff is worth good street cred. They...   Jun 1 2011, 06:01 AM
|- - Fatum   QUOTE (TheOOB @ Jun 1 2011, 10:01 AM) Tha...   Jun 1 2011, 09:03 AM
- - CanRay   On the one hand, they're not going to get good...   Jun 1 2011, 07:28 AM
- - Machiavelli   Definitely. Our team is known as "Fight Club...   Jun 1 2011, 08:21 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE Here's the part that blew my mind. When ...   Jun 1 2011, 09:52 AM
- - Ascalaphus   Any group of shadowrunners is going to gravitate t...   Jun 1 2011, 11:34 AM
- - suoq   I'm missing the problem. The vast majority o...   Jun 1 2011, 11:41 AM
|- - Fatum   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 1 2011, 03:41 PM) I...   Jun 1 2011, 12:05 PM
- - Machiavelli   100% agree. Unfortunately this is something the GM...   Jun 1 2011, 11:47 AM
- - Irion   Well, the pacifist quality is not that bad. Non-le...   Jun 1 2011, 11:51 AM
- - Machiavelli   Non-lethal ammo is more expensive^^   Jun 1 2011, 11:54 AM
- - Machiavelli   IMO the typical runner is a self-serving calculati...   Jun 1 2011, 12:13 PM
- - Irion   QUOTE They do what they have to do, but this doesn...   Jun 1 2011, 12:21 PM
- - Makki   why the hell burn the drugs? they all have a fixer...   Jun 1 2011, 12:28 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Makki @ Jun 1 2011, 06:28 AM) why ...   Jun 1 2011, 12:46 PM
|- - Makki   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 1 2011, 08:46 AM) The m...   Jun 1 2011, 12:52 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Makki @ Jun 1 2011, 06:52 AM) I...   Jun 1 2011, 12:58 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Well, your stereotypical runners are self-se...   Jun 1 2011, 01:00 PM
|- - redwulf25   QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 1 2011, 09:00 AM) Not...   Jun 1 2011, 06:53 PM
- - Irion   It always depends on. If you try to keep a low pro...   Jun 1 2011, 01:07 PM
- - hermit   Plus, selling them is likely to piss off local dru...   Jun 1 2011, 01:11 PM
|- - Faraday   QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 1 2011, 06:11 AM) Plu...   Jun 1 2011, 02:15 PM
- - Blade   I've once had a NPC the PC killed ask in his l...   Jun 1 2011, 01:11 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Honestly, I blame you for making it too easy. The...   Jun 1 2011, 01:38 PM
- - Irion   @Yerameyahu Yeah, becase this generates so much mo...   Jun 1 2011, 01:57 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I dunno what you're saying, sorry. My point ...   Jun 1 2011, 02:07 PM
|- - Wolfgar   OP here, ready to describe in detail just what wen...   Jun 2 2011, 12:37 AM
- - Irion   @Yerameyahu QUOTE My point is that throwing grenad...   Jun 1 2011, 02:14 PM
- - Machiavelli   Enhanced skills give you more options, thats for s...   Jun 1 2011, 02:21 PM
- - Yerameyahu   I *am* just looking at the deed itself. That's...   Jun 1 2011, 02:23 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE What would you do with 50 kg of novacoke and...   Jun 1 2011, 02:25 PM
- - Machiavelli   I agreed with you on that. Maybe i didn´t make it ...   Jun 1 2011, 02:26 PM
- - Yerameyahu   Sorry, Machiavelli. I was still responding to Irio...   Jun 1 2011, 02:28 PM
- - Machiavelli   Now it´t getting clear. Isn´t Jazz this "give...   Jun 1 2011, 02:46 PM
- - Ascalaphus   And of course people's ethics don't have t...   Jun 1 2011, 02:48 PM
- - Irion   QUOTE And of course people's ethics don't ...   Jun 1 2011, 02:54 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Irion @ Jun 1 2011, 08:54 AM) You ...   Jun 1 2011, 03:09 PM
- - James McMurray   No such thing as "too good." If they wan...   Jun 1 2011, 03:03 PM
- - Irion   @suoq So somebody how does not kill, does not just...   Jun 1 2011, 03:19 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Irion @ Jun 1 2011, 09:19 AM) For ...   Jun 1 2011, 03:58 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   I do love all this binary thinking. You can choose...   Jun 1 2011, 03:52 PM
- - Irion   QUOTE You don't have to admit you are "ba...   Jun 1 2011, 04:10 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   Anyone else having trouble understanding the point...   Jun 1 2011, 04:16 PM
|- - James McMurray   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Jun 1 2011, 11:16...   Jun 1 2011, 04:21 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Anyone else having trouble understanding the...   Jun 1 2011, 04:29 PM
|- - James McMurray   QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 1 2011, 11:29 AM) And...   Jun 1 2011, 04:31 PM
- - Irion   Simple statements: There are not much options out ...   Jun 1 2011, 04:32 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Or having read all the studies and realized ...   Jun 1 2011, 04:44 PM
- - LurkerOutThere   And what do you base this on your conjecture seems...   Jun 1 2011, 04:45 PM
- - Irion   @hermit QUOTE The difference between intended kill...   Jun 1 2011, 04:57 PM
- - CanRay   All my characters have their limits. Most are in ...   Jun 1 2011, 04:59 PM
- - hermit   Irion QUOTE Killing might be self defance etc. et...   Jun 1 2011, 05:07 PM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 1 2011, 11:07 AM) Onl...   Jun 1 2011, 05:33 PM
- - CanRay   QUOTE (LurkerOutThere @ Jun 1 2011, 11:45...   Jun 1 2011, 05:22 PM
- - CanRay   *Headdesk* I can't believe that I haven't...   Jun 1 2011, 05:28 PM
- - HeckfyEx   QUOTE another jumped a bunch of insect spirits to ...   Jun 1 2011, 05:39 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Correction for accuracy. From http://www.oma...   Jun 1 2011, 05:42 PM
- - Irion   @hermit QUOTE Oddly enough, things did not spiral ...   Jun 1 2011, 05:43 PM
|- - LurkerOutThere   QUOTE (Irion @ Jun 1 2011, 12:43 PM) QUOT...   Jun 1 2011, 06:20 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Of course not. Things do not tend to spiral ...   Jun 1 2011, 05:54 PM
- - Irion   @hermit QUOTE Because? Murder is defined quite pre...   Jun 1 2011, 06:34 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Murder is defined quite precise. The states...   Jun 1 2011, 06:47 PM
|- - Whipstitch   QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 1 2011, 12:47 PM) The...   Jun 1 2011, 09:16 PM
- - Yerameyahu   TLDR, but I wasn't saying SR4 doesn't offe...   Jun 1 2011, 06:54 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE That's why you sell the drugs to them. T...   Jun 1 2011, 06:55 PM
- - Yerameyahu   There's no rigging. The OP said 'throw gre...   Jun 1 2011, 07:21 PM
- - hermit   If the bikers were heavily fortified Marines, you ...   Jun 1 2011, 07:50 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (hermit @ Jun 1 2011, 02:50 PM) If ...   Jun 1 2011, 08:42 PM
- - James McMurray   Why bound? Summoned works just fine, and you can g...   Jun 1 2011, 07:59 PM
- - Yerameyahu   hermit, certainly those options exist. I didn...   Jun 1 2011, 08:06 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE I'm saying that the ability to abort fro...   Jun 1 2011, 08:10 PM
- - Yerameyahu   *shrug* Possibly. There are many factors. I'm ...   Jun 1 2011, 08:12 PM
- - Ascalaphus   HE grenades cost 45 apiece. They can be detonated...   Jun 1 2011, 08:29 PM
|- - Makki   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Jun 1 2011, 04:29 PM)...   Jun 1 2011, 11:17 PM
|- - redwulf25   QUOTE (Makki @ Jun 1 2011, 06:17 PM) swit...   Jun 1 2011, 11:44 PM
- - Irion   @hermit QUOTE Are you, then, saying that it does n...   Jun 1 2011, 08:31 PM
- - Yerameyahu   It's not lethal vs. nonlethal. It's genera...   Jun 1 2011, 08:43 PM
- - hermit   QUOTE Some of them are. I've seen a few ...   Jun 1 2011, 08:56 PM
- - Irion   QUOTE Yeah, and Mengele assassinated. Still, in th...   Jun 1 2011, 09:08 PM
- - CanRay   The definition of murder depends on which side of ...   Jun 1 2011, 09:20 PM
- - suoq   Yerameyahu - Your recon must work better than my r...   Jun 1 2011, 10:07 PM
|- - James McMurray   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 1 2011, 05:07 PM) Yeram...   Jun 1 2011, 10:29 PM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 1 2011, 05:07 PM) Yeram...   Jun 2 2011, 12:58 AM
|- - Faelan   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jun 1 2011, 08:58 PM) The...   Jun 2 2011, 01:21 AM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (Faelan @ Jun 1 2011, 08:21 PM) Com...   Jun 2 2011, 01:36 AM
- - Ascalaphus   But wouldn't the neurostun gas do damage every...   Jun 1 2011, 11:55 PM
|- - redwulf25   QUOTE (Ascalaphus @ Jun 1 2011, 07:55 PM)...   Jun 2 2011, 12:15 AM
- - nezumi   This sounds like an excellent situation. Your pla...   Jun 2 2011, 01:20 AM
- - Yerameyahu   suoq, what are you talking about? I didn't say...   Jun 2 2011, 01:56 AM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (Yerameyahu @ Jun 1 2011, 07:56 PM)...   Jun 2 2011, 02:19 AM
|- - Faelan   QUOTE (suoq @ Jun 1 2011, 10:19 PM) Havin...   Jun 2 2011, 12:45 PM
- - CanRay   Really? Can you also not tell when someone's ...   Jun 2 2011, 02:27 AM
|- - suoq   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jun 1 2011, 08:27 PM) Rea...   Jun 2 2011, 02:56 AM
|- - zend0g   QUOTE (CanRay @ Jun 2 2011, 03:27 AM) Rea...   Jun 2 2011, 03:10 AM
|- - CanRay   QUOTE (zend0g @ Jun 1 2011, 10:10 PM) Oh ...   Jun 2 2011, 04:34 AM
- - Yerameyahu   Ah, I see your confusion, suoq. They would *find o...   Jun 2 2011, 03:24 AM
- - Ascalaphus   You could have a "rival" team of shadowr...   Jun 2 2011, 09:46 AM
- - hermit   QUOTE And as far as I know Mengele drowned/had a s...   Jun 2 2011, 12:19 PM
- - nezumi   Like Faelan said, when you live certain behaviors ...   Jun 2 2011, 01:10 PM
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