Sounds like Windows Vista.

Like someone once said, in SR4, the Matrix became Windows with a bit of magic.

dear deity, i thought i was down on the deep end when ranting about weapon mounts and launch weapons...

Well, at least it didn't become OSX.

I think RvD said that, not me (though he has some points about the general level of nonexistent security measures).

While I work on my review of Gun Heaven, I've been going over the firearms with a fine tooth comb.

The MP9 is the best machine pistol. Between 1 innate recoil compensation and default FA mode, it's a great little package. You can get 8 RC for 1 mod slot (3 Gas Vent III barrel slot + 3 Hand Gyromount + 1 innate + 1 personalized grip). The 25 round clip is on the small side (2 FA IPs and 1 double BF IP), but if you really want you can extend it to 31 rounds. That's enough for 3 IPs firing FA which is good enough. If your GM allows it and you can find the RC needed, it'll make a decent base for a quite concealable HV SnS spammer too.

I'm debating the usefulness of the Jianshi. It's BF only and thus take 1 mod slots to fix. But it comes with a powered slide mount (how many mod slots I'm unsure, but my guess is 3). That's free mod slots and you can't buy those with love or money. The dual clips aren't anything special, but alright. Still on the fence on it though.

Edit- For bad math and writing. See Max's post for original mistakes

Don't you mean 3, that last one bullet makes for quite a pitiful FA burst (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Why would you assume it has a more then one?

It's SA/BF so 1 mod slot should be enought, unless you planning to add SS mode too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

You're right. At 31 rounds, it's 3 IP and 4 bullets left over on the fourth. That's still good enough.

Edit- You would typically reload on the 4 IP. But the fight should be wrapping up if not over at that point so you can burn a free (smartgun system) + simple action to reload.


I wrote that wrong. I mean how many slots you can use on the powered slide mount. It's got a maximum size between 1 and 5. Normally it takes up Mod Slots on Mount + 1 mod slots. However since it's an option, it takes up no mod slots. So how big is it? I think it's 3 because that lets you put a underbarrel weapon on it which seems fair.



I was looking thinking of the HV mod when I wrote that (that'll teach me to try to figure out how to build the FA HV assault cannon). Mea Culpa. I'm going to figure out what I can do with the powered slide mount. It has less innate recoil compensation than the Ares Alpha, but restricted legality. Pity that it's the most WTF? looking of all the weapons.

Huh, FA shoots 10 bullets, so by my math it's exactly 1 bullet left over, as my previous post said.

There you go using Math again... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)

I think Hida was using a Long + Short burst (which is also fully automatic fire, but not a full burst). Long = 6 shots, short = 3, that's 9 a round which would result in 4 bullets left over.

Max is counting 10 for a full burst, which would result in 1 bullet.

"Math is hard, let's bake cookies for the boys!" - Barbie

I love how the picture of the Enfield M1098 (page 5) is actually a SIG. (It looks to me like a P228 or P229.) It's photomanipulated just enough to take out the SIG branding and identification markings. And I wouldn't quite classify a P228 as a holdout pistol.

Should be good. Let me make that space based game a lot more fun. Ta.

Niiiiiice, I'm liking the Onotari XFactor III. Looks like one of my new go-to bullet hoses.

With an inherent dual-clip system, slap on an Extended Clip to raise the total round capacity to 76. Add a Gas Vent 3, a Folding Stock, an underbarrel Foregrip, Shockpad, and a Personalized Grip to give you 6 points of recoil compensation, 7 if you use the stock. And you still have an extra mod slot on the weapon to play with. It'll be able to fire 7 Full Bursts or 3 rounds of Suppression Fire without stopping to reload. Sink about 4,000 and buy two clips filled with Narcoject Capsule rounds, you can drop entire squadrons of guys with a weapon like this.

Not quite as good as the Praetor in terms of a pure bullet hose, but still pretty awesome.

Only problem is the Advanced Safety System doesn't work because the gun doesn't have a Smartgun System >.<

Well, you can use that one leftover slot for the smartlink, then. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Is there any explanation who's producing weapons under the "Enfield" name in the 2070s? IRL there hasn't been any firearms manufacturing at the Enfield site since the Royal Small Arms Factory closed in 1988.

Maybe SK picked up the trademark?

"This gun was designed to meet the perceived need for a small pistol to be issued to Royal Air Force crews during the EuroWars. It picked up some government sales, primarily to police and protective units that found the small size and enhanced ergonomic features useful. The M1098 is currently produced by Armamentos Murreta at their Cape Town facility." (Gun Heaven, p. 5)

I would guess it would be cheaper to market another gun to the government bureaucrats than to acquire a trademark (Enfield) and slap it onto a shrunken SIG P228. Just because the pistol was issued to the RAF crews doesn't mean they necessarily liked the weapon. How many military small arms are actually bought by the operators who use them? For spec ops, that fraction might be higher, but the rank-and-file get issued whatever they get issued.

"Always remember, your weapon was made by the lowest bidder." (Murphy's Laws of Warfare)

Enfield belongs to Integrated Weapons Systems, a subdivision of British Industrial, which is a subsidiary of Regulus Joint Enterprises.

I was thinking the same thing myself. But apparently, you only need a smartgun system to install the advanced safety as a mod not as an accessory. I guess the accessory has all its needs to run while the mod doesn't? Regardless, I'm surprised by the lack of smartgun systems among the newer weapons in this book.

As for my analysis of the clip of the MP9, I did the math using the 6 round long burst + 3 round short burst FA option and not the 10 round Full Burst FA option.

It's England, it's Tradition, likely a new factory was built on the site of the old one and the name came back into the use. Or there's another factory at Enfield Lock. Lots of possibilities.

Hawker-Siddley and BAC (British Aerospace Corporation) also appear in Shadowrun, which suggest the British aerospace & defense industry went a different way in the timeline, with the divergence starting as early as 1979.

Not if you buy the Smartlink as an external top-barrel mount (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

So, i just paged through this book.

Noticed a few guys come with built in powered slide mounts.


Has anyone stepped forth and clarified the SIZE of the powered slide mounts?
Because you kind of need to know how many modification slots you can use for an exchangible weapon modification. Guessing it tends to be 3, because thats the size for an underbarrel weapon.

Good job Devs, for not knowing your rules.