 Sharpshooter Dice Pool, Pronomancer, eat your heart out |
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 Jul 4 2011, 09:55 AM
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Runner  Group: Members Posts: 3,473 Joined: 24-May 10 From: Beijing Member No.: 18,611  |
"because he's holding a thermal detonator!"
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Jul 5 2011, 05:30 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,109 Joined: 13-March 11 From: Portland, Oregon Member No.: 24,230 |
QUOTE (Mr. Smileys @ Jul 1 2011, 10:04 AM)  What about a Reflex Recorder for longarms. That should give you another +1 to your DP. And then taking the Krav-Maga Martial art for take aim as a free action. So in one IP you Take Aim x2 (1 free, 1 simple) then shoot and have a DP of 45. Then you also take the Lucky quality giving you +1 edge putting you at a DP of 46 re-rolling all 6s. I left out the reflex recorder for simplicity. It's a skill boost rather than a dice pool boost, same as the adepts improved ability. Thus, I just bought 3 points of that. |
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Jul 5 2011, 09:23 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,803 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Finland Member No.: 15,628 |
You can get one more point of agility if you make the character a pixie instead of an elf (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Jul 5 2011, 10:25 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 673 Joined: 9-May 08 Member No.: 15,965 |
QUOTE (Mäx @ Jul 5 2011, 10:23 AM) You can get one more point of agility if you make the character a pixie instead of an elf (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Yeah.... But.... It would be a pixie.... So now we either have a very small rifle, an odd smartlink set up, or a pixie wrapped around the grip attempting to grab the trigger and perform a move that looks highly suggestive. |
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Jul 5 2011, 01:44 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
If you're going to do a pixie, you drop the sharpshooter bit and pick up Intoxicate (and it's related spell, Fireball).
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Jul 5 2011, 01:46 PM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
Or, y'know, Gunnery.
<ducks and runs> -k |
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Jul 5 2011, 02:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 608 Joined: 7-June 11 From: Virginia Beach, VA Member No.: 31,052 |
QUOTE (Draco18s @ Jul 5 2011, 08:44 AM) If you're going to do a pixie, .... just remember NOT to be Navi. |
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Jul 5 2011, 02:37 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
QUOTE (Rubic @ Jul 5 2011, 10:35 AM) just remember NOT to be Navi. You don't have to tell me. |
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Jul 5 2011, 03:51 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,579 Joined: 30-May 06 From: SoCal Member No.: 8,626 |
Hey! Listen!
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Jul 5 2011, 04:24 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (X-Kalibur @ Jul 5 2011, 10:51 AM) Hey! Listen! Where's my hilariously oversized fly swatter?
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Jul 5 2011, 04:26 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 944 Joined: 24-January 04 From: MO Member No.: 6,014 |
QUOTE (Rubic @ Jul 1 2011, 11:35 AM) Surge is technically on it's own BP limit. You spend the BP on the surge (5, 10, or 15), take that many points in negative qualities and then buy twice that many in positive qualities. Any overage counts towards your regular limit either way, so a 15 BP SuRGE with 20 extra points of SuRGEd Positive Qualities would cover all your positives regardless, and 20 pts of SuRGED flaws on a 5 BP SuRGE would cover 15 BP of your negative qualities limit. (you can check it in Runner's Companion, pg 73, bottom left corner) [Metagenetic Improvement (20 BP) + Aptitude (10 BP) - 15 BP of negative metagenetic qualities] = only 15 BP SuRGE (positive quality). 20 pts left to play with for positives, and all of your negatives free for choosing. Also, Aptitude can, technically and potentially, be purchased after character creation for twice the BP cost in Karma, with GM approval. Obviously subject to change from table to table, so YMMV. Adept = 5BP Surge II = 10BP Metagenetic Improvement Agility = 0 BP (20 points of limit) Exceptional Attribute = 20 BP Aptitude 10 BP You are now spending 45 BP on positive qualities. Like I said, exceeds raw. |
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Jul 5 2011, 04:41 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 608 Joined: 7-June 11 From: Virginia Beach, VA Member No.: 31,052 |
QUOTE (DamienKnight @ Jul 5 2011, 11:26 AM) Adept = 5BP Surge II = 10BP Metagenetic Improvement Agility = 0 BP (20 points of limit) Exceptional Attribute = 20 BP Aptitude 10 BP You are now spending 45 BP on positive qualities. Like I said, exceeds raw. Adept = 5BP Surge III = 15BP Metagenetic Improvement Agility = 0 BP (20 points of SuRGE) Exceptional Attribute = 10 BP (overage from SuRGE) Aptitude picked up after chargen with GM permission leaves this with 5 BP to spare. Granted, the entire build doesn't fit from Chargen, but can be earned later. It's also harder to justify Exceptional Attribute or Metagenetic Improvement, esp. at that cost, after chargen. |
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Jul 5 2011, 06:24 PM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
Now add a spotter. Give me a maxxed sensor test pool for Information-guided indirect fire.
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Jul 5 2011, 07:25 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,803 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Finland Member No.: 15,628 |
QUOTE (Rubic @ Jul 5 2011, 07:41 PM) Adept = 5BP Surge III = 15BP Metagenetic Improvement Agility = 0 BP (20 points of SuRGE) Exceptional Attribute = 10 BP (overage from SuRGE) You can't get Exceptional Attribute as a SuRGE quality. |
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Jul 5 2011, 07:50 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Mäx @ Jul 5 2011, 01:25 PM) You can't get Exceptional Attribute as a SuRGE quality. You don''t need to though... Surge II with Metagenic Improvement - Agility (10 BP, The Improvement is Free for BP Purposes) Adept (5) Exceptional Attribute (20) Done, and all for 35 BP of Positive Qualities... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Jul 5 2011, 08:22 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,803 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Finland Member No.: 15,628 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jul 5 2011, 10:50 PM) You don''t need to though... Surge II with Metagenic Improvement - Agility (10 BP, The Improvement is Free for BP Purposes) Adept (5) Exceptional Attribute (20) Done, and all for 35 BP of Positive Qualities... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Yes, i know that. Has nothink to do with the point of my post (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Jul 5 2011, 08:24 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Mäx @ Jul 5 2011, 02:22 PM) Yes, i know that. Has nothink to do with the point of my post (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) So, what is your point? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Jul 5 2011, 08:33 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,803 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Finland Member No.: 15,628 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Jul 5 2011, 11:24 PM) So, what is your point? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE (Mäx @ Jul 5 2011, 10:25 PM) You can't get Exceptional Attribute as a SuRGE quality. This should be pretty clear man (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) |
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Jul 5 2011, 08:36 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Mäx @ Jul 5 2011, 02:33 PM) This should be pretty clear man (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) And yet, the original post that included the descriptions of the Qualities did not claim to do so... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Though it did get a bit muddied there for a bit... No Worries... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Jul 5 2011, 09:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 608 Joined: 7-June 11 From: Virginia Beach, VA Member No.: 31,052 |
QUOTE (Mäx @ Jul 5 2011, 02:25 PM) You can't get Exceptional Attribute as a SuRGE quality. My mistake. Still, possible to get everything minus Aptitude, and Aptitude is more easy to justify as a post-chargen quality. |
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