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post Jul 19 2011, 10:44 AM
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@Umaro: that entry is titled "Can you use Stealth skills on the astral?"

It's about astrally-projecting and dual-natured people hiding from astral observers. It doesn't actually say anything about mundane people.
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post Jul 19 2011, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE (jeeger @ Jul 19 2011, 03:54 AM) *
Heh... Regarding background count: We are actually at the site of some UCAS native american concentration camp (if that's possible), so there's a good case for background radiation. However, our DM did not know about background radiation at that point, and so there is none^^.

Actually, Fyndhal's solution sounds feasible: Just use Infiltration vs. Assensing, with the necessary modifiers. I'll go recommend that to our DM, and mention it's a tricky topic^^.
Thanks for your help!


Yes, there were native american concentration camps during the resource rush.
And I'll say it again: cardboard boxes, with a small hole with a piece of glass or clear plastic so you can see through but will still block your aura.
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post Jul 19 2011, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE (Fyndhal @ Jul 19 2011, 02:43 AM) *
+2 for Object Stands out (lack of Aura Noise)
+0-+2 Background Illumination


Except that in the woods the object wouldn't stand out. A vibrant, living aura meshed with vibrant living auras.

Also, Background illumination is counter-productive to assensing on the astral plane. Auras eminate from everything living, so, having more auras means it's brighter, but that means it's just harder to see any specifics on the Astral. Easier to see a glowing object when nothing else is glowing.
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post Jul 19 2011, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE (HunterHerne @ Jul 19 2011, 07:13 AM) *
Except that in the woods the object wouldn't stand out. A vibrant, living aura meshed with vibrant living auras.

Also, Background illumination is counter-productive to assensing on the astral plane. Auras eminate from everything living, so, having more auras means it's brighter, but that means it's just harder to see any specifics on the Astral. Easier to see a glowing object when nothing else is glowing.


The tables account for that. Basically, if you're at all skilled at Infiltration, that much noise should mean you can easily slip by an astral observer...unless they are massively spec'd into assensing. (Again, AFB, so I can't look up the tables.)
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post Jul 19 2011, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE (Fyndhal @ Jul 19 2011, 10:24 AM) *
The tables account for that. Basically, if you're at all skilled at Infiltration, that much noise should mean you can easily slip by an astral observer...unless they are massively spec'd into assensing. (Again, AFB, so I can't look up the tables.)


They do. I'm sorry for not being more straightforward in my response earlier. The way you have it written, those count positive for the astral perciever, where in the books they actually detract from his dice pool.
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post Jul 19 2011, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE (HunterHerne @ Jul 19 2011, 09:32 AM) *
They do. I'm sorry for not being more straightforward in my response earlier. The way you have it written, those count positive for the astral perciever, where in the books they actually detract from his dice pool.


If you check my post again, you'll note I was talking about a more ideal circumstance for the mage -- patrolling a facility when most of the staff is gone for the night. I agree that the modifiers for being in a forest would be much harsher on the perceiver.
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post Jul 19 2011, 03:16 PM
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My mistake. I was applying it to the situation the OP was describing. Sorry.
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