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 Aug 17 2011, 04:00 PM
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The ShadowComedian  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525  |
And you certainly don't want to distract him from working on the next germany only book either (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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Aug 17 2011, 04:38 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 16-September 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 5,623 |
Just got done reading Street Legends and had a question. Did the writers change Lugh Silverhand into a regular elf rather than an immortal elf? I am running the artifact series of encounters so I know immortal elves are still in the game but as he is listed he seems a little underpowered for one of the immortal jerk crowd, lol.
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Aug 17 2011, 05:05 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Everything is written in-universe, so sometimes they get things wrong.
From the writer's point of view, this is on purpose. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Aug 17 2011, 05:07 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,147 Joined: 2-May 10 Member No.: 18,539 |
QUOTE (Stormdrake @ Aug 17 2011, 12:38 PM)  Just got done reading Street Legends and had a question. Did the writers change Lugh Silverhand into a regular elf rather than an immortal elf? I am running the artifact series of encounters so I know immortal elves are still in the game but as he is listed he seems a little underpowered for one of the immortal jerk crowd, lol. They also didn't include his immunities that he's supposed to have as an immortal elf (age, pathogens, toxins, diseases). So if a person wasn't up on their metaplot for Shadowrun, they'd have no idea that Lugh Surehand was an immortal elf at all. |
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Aug 17 2011, 05:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 689 Joined: 16-September 03 From: Colorado Member No.: 5,623 |
I get that it is an in universe piece but the stats are for the GM and as they don't list that info it kinda makes it wrong info. I can addd it no problem but as I paid 25 bucks I would like the GM information to be correct.
Having said that I do like the write up (fluff) on all of the characters. Gives a better handle on how the character has acted in the past and could behave in the future. |
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Aug 17 2011, 06:03 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,759 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
QUOTE (Sephiroth @ Aug 17 2011, 07:07 PM) They also didn't include his immunities that he's supposed to have as an immortal elf (age, pathogens, toxins, diseases). So if a person wasn't up on their metaplot for Shadowrun, they'd have no idea that Lugh Surehand was an immortal elf at all. I have a hard time believing it myself, but I have yet to find any actual mention of the existence immortal elves in Shadowrun (let alone rules) since Threats, in 1996. Since, only lately had Dawn of the Artifacts: Darkest Hour described Ehran as an "Immortal Elf". |
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Aug 17 2011, 06:35 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
How many elfs have been documented as dying from natural causes?
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Aug 17 2011, 06:39 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Well, i say for elfs blunt trauma and high velocity lead poisoning should be natural cause . .
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Aug 17 2011, 06:59 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,759 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Aug 17 2011, 08:35 PM) How many elfs have been documented as dying from natural causes? The oldest "regular" elves and dwarves just got past their 60, which is a bit early to "die of old age", even for human. Spike babies may be as old as 85 (Liam O'Connor was born in 1987 according to Tir na nOg), but it's not clear there would be enough of them around to make significant statistics.
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Aug 17 2011, 07:06 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
QUOTE (Nath @ Aug 17 2011, 08:59 PM) The oldest "regular" elves and dwarves just got past their 60, which is a bit early to "die of old age", even for human. Spike babies may be as old as 85 (Liam O'Connor was born in 1987 according to Tir na nOg), but it's not clear there would be enough of them around to make significant statistics. So in essence, there is no medical way at present to tell a immortal elf from a mortal one in good health. |
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Aug 17 2011, 07:46 PM
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Tilting at Windmills Group: Members Posts: 1,636 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Amarillo, TX, CAS Member No.: 388 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Aug 17 2011, 02:06 PM) So in essence, there is no medical way at present to tell a immortal elf from a mortal one in good health. That would be correct, sir. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Aug 17 2011, 07:50 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
So for all we know ol' Surehand can be pulling one epic con job? Unless those pointy ears have some magical ritual or other to test the "claim", that is...
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Aug 17 2011, 07:50 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Aug 17 2011, 01:35 PM) How many elfs have been documented as dying from natural causes? QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Aug 17 2011, 01:39 PM) Well, i say for elfs blunt trauma and high velocity lead poisoning should be natural cause . . Coroners put that down as "Suicide" depending on where they were found. Less paperwork.
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Aug 17 2011, 07:59 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,147 Joined: 2-May 10 Member No.: 18,539 |
Actually, I checked my old Threats copy, and it says that some of the higher-ups in the Seelie Court and in Tir Tairngire had developed a way to test for the immortality gene in elves.
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Aug 17 2011, 08:13 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 17 2011, 09:50 PM) Coroners put that down as "Suicide" depending on where they were found. Less paperwork. OK, i'll let that count ^^ |
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Aug 17 2011, 08:14 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Sephiroth @ Aug 17 2011, 01:59 PM) Actually, I checked my old Threats copy, and it says that some of the higher-ups in the Seelie Court and in Tir Tairngire had developed a way to test for the immortality gene in elves. Unfortunately, they forgot to share such research with us mere mortals. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) |
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Aug 17 2011, 08:20 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Aug 17 2011, 09:50 PM) So for all we know ol' Surehand can be pulling one epic con job? Unless those pointy ears have some magical ritual or other to test the "claim", that is... well, the other immortals probably simply know/remember him from the 4th age . . |
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Aug 17 2011, 08:23 PM
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Runner Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,801 Joined: 2-September 09 From: Moscow, Russia Member No.: 17,589 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 18 2011, 12:14 AM) Unfortunately, they forgot to share such research with us mere mortals. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) And why would they.
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Aug 17 2011, 08:51 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Fatum @ Aug 17 2011, 02:23 PM) And why would they. No Doubt... As for remembering him from the 4th Age; He may not have been born then. But he could be a Spike Baby from 300-400 Years ago, and still be an Immortal Elf. Just because he may be Immortal, it does not mean he ahs been around for 10,000 Years or so. |
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Aug 17 2011, 09:45 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Also, whose to say that they actually all know one another? It's a big planet, and even when working behind the scenes during the Fifth World, it's still a big planet.
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Aug 17 2011, 09:52 PM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 17 2011, 03:45 PM) Also, whose to say that they actually all know one another? It's a big planet, and even when working behind the scenes during the Fifth World, it's still a big planet. Indeed it is. What, a few hundred Immortal Elves, at best, against the Massed population of 6 Billion? Not likely to cross paths very often at all, unless they knew each other to begin with. |
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Aug 17 2011, 10:03 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,759 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Aug 17 2011, 11:52 PM) Indeed it is. What, a few hundred Immortal Elves, at best, against the Massed population of 6 Billion? Not likely to cross paths very often at all, unless they knew each other to begin with. The number rather was a few hundred millions during the Middle Age, and maybe ten millions at the beginning of the Fifth Age. Plus, for those who are Caucasian, it kinda limits the area they may come from.
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Aug 17 2011, 10:27 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Or African, or Australian (I know there's one of those at least), or Asian, or...
EDIT: Damnit, now I want to make an Inuit Immortal Elf just to screw with people. |
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Aug 17 2011, 10:32 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,759 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
What I mean was, regarding the original discussion, Lugh Surehand doesn't look like an Inuit.
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Aug 17 2011, 10:53 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
Captain Obvious saves the original discussion again! *grins* ^^
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