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post Aug 29 2011, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE (Neurosis @ Aug 29 2011, 06:42 PM) *
They are pretty legendary. Why would you leave them out?

Still if the session had even anything close to the tone/tension/mood of Ronin, the GM didn't do that badly. (Of course, I kind of doubt it did. That tone is mighty hard to accomplish even at a home setting, let alone at a con table with six to eight strangers to wrangle.)
Nope. It was pretty horrible. The GM focused on totally unnecessary elements, the planning took an hour and was pretty much outgame talk until I forced it to end and there was no tension at all. We went there killed the dudes, took the suitcase and escaped. All AAA of course.
No police, no drones, no magic and half of the group didn't even do anything. The group were two over-the-top orc samurais, two dwarfs of which I have no idea what they were supposed to be and my buddy and me. Everyone was around 500 BP, while both of us were 350-400 and we ran the thing pretty much by ourselves. Anyhow when we had the suitcase and I started the car for our escape, while popping some jazz to compensate for the missing rigger control of our car, the orc sams who had done nothing (all targets were sniped by my buddy) entered, knocked me unconsious (the player even said he knocks me out without rolling or anything) and then the GM said we're back at the hideout.

Worst session ever.
Worst players ever.
Worst GM ever.
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post Aug 29 2011, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE (Mile High Dwarf @ Aug 29 2011, 08:01 PM) *
EDIT: Now that I think of it I have a little anecdote that might interest the "Ronin" crowd. My prof. in college wrote that film and was discussing to us a movie he wanted to write called "Privateers". He started off his explanation with, "Okay, so, it's in the future, and megacorps rule the world... and they need to hire criminals, called privateers, to perform corporate espionage...". I had to raise my hand at that point and ask him if he'd heard of Shadowrun. He wrote it down and said he'd check it out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)


Sounds interesting... Privateers is a very nice term for what shadowrunners do, really. Did anything come from it?
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post Aug 29 2011, 11:10 PM
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Just to go a little left-field, I'll add me 0.02 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif)

Blade Runner (style, setting), Dark Angel (setting, style, teamwork), Batman Beyond (setting, teamwork), Transmetropolitan (setting, style), Altered Carbon (style, setting, Murphy's Law), The Losers (teamwork), Red (style, teamwork), Kiss Of The Dragon (Murphy's Law), Hudson Hawk (Murphy's Law, style), Global Frequency (teamwork), Gravel (magic, style)

I know they're all over the place, and some have been mentioned before, but those are some of my influences on the tone of my games/plots/etc. I'm sure there are a lot more, but my aging brain can't seem to conjure them at the moment.
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post Aug 29 2011, 11:15 PM
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I'm trying to figure out how to tell if the scenario being described is Ronin or Pulp Fiction.

What makes Ronin, Ronin and Shadowrun, Shadowrun isn't the mission pretext or the two dimensional NPCs. It's the characters and how they react with the world and the other characters.

In Ronin, "Sam" isn't called "Sam" because it's just a name. The name says who he really is, as opposed to who he is pretending to be, similar to the difference between who Ōishi (47 Ronin) was and who he pretended to be. Both Sam and Ōishi had the same end goal and employed deception to get close to their target and achieve their goal.

Ronin is a great Shadowrun movie, not because it sets up a great mission (Leverage sets up much better ones), but because it sets up great characters and great character interaction with each other and their environment. There are a lot of classic archtypes and memes in the movie. If the table wants to play that sort of grit and interaction, it's a great model. If they want Ghost in the Shell instead, it's a different table.
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post Aug 30 2011, 12:59 AM
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People are going to hit me, but, you gotta think on this a bit...

The Dirty Dozen.
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post Aug 30 2011, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Aug 29 2011, 05:59 PM) *
People are going to hit me, but, you gotta think on this a bit...

The Dirty Dozen.


Why would I hit you? I am just surprised it hasn't been mentioned sooner.
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post Aug 30 2011, 01:23 AM
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A bunch of anti-social drekheads crammed together and forced to do a nearly impossible job for a small reward.

It's Shadowrun in WWII! Apparently there's been some sequels, which I'll have to see now. If I can find them.
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post Sep 1 2011, 11:09 AM
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Saw Smokin' Aces coz of this thread. Great movie! Highly recommended.

Then saw Smokin' Aces 2. Very bad. Stay away!
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post Sep 1 2011, 05:51 PM
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Smokin' Aces 2 is a drinking movie and a comedy. It's a fun movie to watch while folding laundry. The ending scene also had me rolling.

It also nicely sums up SOME Shadowrun players I've run with.
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post Sep 2 2011, 03:10 AM
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Starting up a game set in magic-drenched Denver in a few weeks to introduce a newbie to gaming to Shadowrun.

Thinking of making it a two movie night - The Fifth Element (the over-the-top and exotic) with Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker (little grit, a little grime, and working for one of the most powerful Johnson's in the Sixth World).

Don't know if it would fly with the other players though, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Sep 2 2011, 04:08 AM
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With all the talk of Anime, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Outlaw Star, nix the space aspect and you have Magic, high tech, cyberware, adepts, riggers, AI, Ancient Conspiracies, drones, and a plucky team of adventurers .

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post Sep 2 2011, 06:28 AM
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QUOTE (Mile High Dwarf @ Aug 29 2011, 01:01 PM) *
Has no one mentioned "The Losers" at this point? I know the grit isn't there (it's such a goofy film) but the team dynamic is perfect. Everyone has a basic archetype from the game...

That is a really fun movie and it has the whole "team of outsiders" bit down pat.

I wouldn't say it's the singular Shadowrun movie, but Spartan is the movie that gets me the most amped up to play Shadowrun. It hits on legwork, interrogations, cons, cons turning to sudden violence, extractions, fixers, conspiracies, half-truth telling Johnsons, and how professionals end up in the shadows. Plus it has classic Mamet dialogue (see the sig.)
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post Sep 2 2011, 06:35 AM
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The Losers comic is better at being Shadowrun than the movie.

Although, that might be because of the scene where the hacker is working in his boxers and a newspaper pirate hat.
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post Sep 2 2011, 10:46 AM
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I own the second volume (need to get the first on the cheap); my favorite has to be where they go to Seadonia for their free satellite uplink, talk the skipper into handing them his rifle...and then it hits the skipper why.

Silly popcorny fun with American politics as written by two British men. Not a bad combination.
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post Sep 2 2011, 12:03 PM
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Has anyone mentioned cowboy bebop yet? For me at least it's very shadowrunish (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 2 2011, 06:03 PM
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Cowboy Bebop has been mentioned numerous times. Anime tends to offer the cyber + magic schtick very easy in terms of media. While I used to be a big anime fanboy/otaku, I never saw any series having the gritty/dystopian feel that SR has (or had, depending on your edition & viewpoint).

Certain episodes of Avatar, Last Airbender... guy with metal arm & blew things up with his 3rd eye. The Earth city with the secret service guy brainwashing people.

Serenity (aka Firefly the movie). Some episodes of the tv show Sliders. Babylon AD. Children of Men. Doomsday. Avalon, Natural City.

I think some of what I have listed has been posted before. I'll double check & edit this later after confirming.

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post Sep 2 2011, 06:04 PM
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Since someone already mentioned Dirty Dozen, I would add Kelly's Heroes as a great old school shadowrun.
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post Sep 3 2011, 12:15 AM
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Then I submit The First Great Train Robbery. My old school is older than your's! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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QUOTE (EKBT81 @ Sep 2 2011, 08:15 PM) *
Then I submit The First Great Train Robbery. My old school is older than your's! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)


fritz lang metropolis

Beat 1927 buddy...
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post Sep 3 2011, 06:42 AM
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QUOTE (Saint Hallow @ Sep 3 2011, 12:59 AM) *
fritz lang metropolis

Beat 1927 buddy...
OK, Sleeper with Woody Allen.

Ah, but that's made well after 1927, right? It's based on When The Sleeper Awakes by H.G. Wells (1898).
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post Sep 3 2011, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Sep 3 2011, 12:42 AM) *
OK, Sleeper with Woody Allen.

Ah, but that's made well after 1927, right? It's based on When The Sleeper Awakes by H.G. Wells (1898).


Not just an explosives geek, I see, but a Literary geek as well... I am Impressed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 3 2011, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Sep 3 2011, 11:27 AM) *
Not just an explosives geek, I see, but a Literary geek as well... I am Impressed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I read at High School level when I was 8, and College level when I was 10.

I'd be better read if my so called "Teachers" hadn't taken my books away from me because "It was reading time" and "you have to read the designated book."

Moby Dick was ripped out of my hands for My Darling, My Hamburger. Which took me less than two hours to read the previous night.
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post Sep 4 2011, 01:29 AM
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Would you say Ceaser's Column is also possible as a SR type of novel?
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Sep 3 2011, 10:29 AM) *
I read at High School level when I was 8, and College level when I was 10.

I'd be better read if my so called "Teachers" hadn't taken my books away from me because "It was reading time" and "you have to read the designated book."

Moby Dick was ripped out of my hands for My Darling, My Hamburger. Which took me less than two hours to read the previous night.


I do feel your pain...
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post Sep 4 2011, 05:17 AM
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F***ing ghetto welfare school.

"Why bother teaching the little bastards, they'll just end up on welfare like their parents." was something I heard more than once. I was a sneaky and quiet little SOB.

Back to movies before I get angry.
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