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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 89 Joined: 18-August 11 Member No.: 36,178 ![]() |
They are pretty legendary. Why would you leave them out? Nope. It was pretty horrible. The GM focused on totally unnecessary elements, the planning took an hour and was pretty much outgame talk until I forced it to end and there was no tension at all. We went there killed the dudes, took the suitcase and escaped. All AAA of course.Still if the session had even anything close to the tone/tension/mood of Ronin, the GM didn't do that badly. (Of course, I kind of doubt it did. That tone is mighty hard to accomplish even at a home setting, let alone at a con table with six to eight strangers to wrangle.) No police, no drones, no magic and half of the group didn't even do anything. The group were two over-the-top orc samurais, two dwarfs of which I have no idea what they were supposed to be and my buddy and me. Everyone was around 500 BP, while both of us were 350-400 and we ran the thing pretty much by ourselves. Anyhow when we had the suitcase and I started the car for our escape, while popping some jazz to compensate for the missing rigger control of our car, the orc sams who had done nothing (all targets were sniped by my buddy) entered, knocked me unconsious (the player even said he knocks me out without rolling or anything) and then the GM said we're back at the hideout. Worst session ever. Worst players ever. Worst GM ever. |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,899 Joined: 29-October 09 From: Leiden, the Netherlands Member No.: 17,814 ![]() |
EDIT: Now that I think of it I have a little anecdote that might interest the "Ronin" crowd. My prof. in college wrote that film and was discussing to us a movie he wanted to write called "Privateers". He started off his explanation with, "Okay, so, it's in the future, and megacorps rule the world... and they need to hire criminals, called privateers, to perform corporate espionage...". I had to raise my hand at that point and ask him if he'd heard of Shadowrun. He wrote it down and said he'd check it out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Sounds interesting... Privateers is a very nice term for what shadowrunners do, really. Did anything come from it? |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 197 Joined: 14-July 11 From: Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 33,321 ![]() |
Just to go a little left-field, I'll add me 0.02 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif)
Blade Runner (style, setting), Dark Angel (setting, style, teamwork), Batman Beyond (setting, teamwork), Transmetropolitan (setting, style), Altered Carbon (style, setting, Murphy's Law), The Losers (teamwork), Red (style, teamwork), Kiss Of The Dragon (Murphy's Law), Hudson Hawk (Murphy's Law, style), Global Frequency (teamwork), Gravel (magic, style) I know they're all over the place, and some have been mentioned before, but those are some of my influences on the tone of my games/plots/etc. I'm sure there are a lot more, but my aging brain can't seem to conjure them at the moment. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,272 Joined: 22-June 10 From: Omaha. NE Member No.: 18,746 ![]() |
I'm trying to figure out how to tell if the scenario being described is Ronin or Pulp Fiction.
What makes Ronin, Ronin and Shadowrun, Shadowrun isn't the mission pretext or the two dimensional NPCs. It's the characters and how they react with the world and the other characters. In Ronin, "Sam" isn't called "Sam" because it's just a name. The name says who he really is, as opposed to who he is pretending to be, similar to the difference between who Ōishi (47 Ronin) was and who he pretended to be. Both Sam and Ōishi had the same end goal and employed deception to get close to their target and achieve their goal. Ronin is a great Shadowrun movie, not because it sets up a great mission (Leverage sets up much better ones), but because it sets up great characters and great character interaction with each other and their environment. There are a lot of classic archtypes and memes in the movie. If the table wants to play that sort of grit and interaction, it's a great model. If they want Ghost in the Shell instead, it's a different table. |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 ![]() |
People are going to hit me, but, you gotta think on this a bit...
The Dirty Dozen. |
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#131
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 574 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Ucluelet - Tofino - Nanaimo Salish-Sahide Council Member No.: 17,309 ![]() |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 ![]() |
A bunch of anti-social drekheads crammed together and forced to do a nearly impossible job for a small reward.
It's Shadowrun in WWII! Apparently there's been some sequels, which I'll have to see now. If I can find them. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 292 Joined: 20-April 09 From: Sydney 'plex Member No.: 17,094 ![]() |
Saw Smokin' Aces coz of this thread. Great movie! Highly recommended.
Then saw Smokin' Aces 2. Very bad. Stay away! |
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 ![]() |
Smokin' Aces 2 is a drinking movie and a comedy. It's a fun movie to watch while folding laundry. The ending scene also had me rolling.
It also nicely sums up SOME Shadowrun players I've run with. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,183 Joined: 5-December 07 From: Lower UCAS, along the border Member No.: 14,507 ![]() |
Starting up a game set in magic-drenched Denver in a few weeks to introduce a newbie to gaming to Shadowrun.
Thinking of making it a two movie night - The Fifth Element (the over-the-top and exotic) with Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker (little grit, a little grime, and working for one of the most powerful Johnson's in the Sixth World). Don't know if it would fly with the other players though, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 93 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 975 ![]() |
With all the talk of Anime, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Outlaw Star, nix the space aspect and you have Magic, high tech, cyberware, adepts, riggers, AI, Ancient Conspiracies, drones, and a plucky team of adventurers .
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 224 Joined: 6-April 02 From: ab.ca Member No.: 2,522 ![]() |
Has no one mentioned "The Losers" at this point? I know the grit isn't there (it's such a goofy film) but the team dynamic is perfect. Everyone has a basic archetype from the game... That is a really fun movie and it has the whole "team of outsiders" bit down pat. I wouldn't say it's the singular Shadowrun movie, but Spartan is the movie that gets me the most amped up to play Shadowrun. It hits on legwork, interrogations, cons, cons turning to sudden violence, extractions, fixers, conspiracies, half-truth telling Johnsons, and how professionals end up in the shadows. Plus it has classic Mamet dialogue (see the sig.) |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 ![]() |
The Losers comic is better at being Shadowrun than the movie.
Although, that might be because of the scene where the hacker is working in his boxers and a newspaper pirate hat. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,183 Joined: 5-December 07 From: Lower UCAS, along the border Member No.: 14,507 ![]() |
I own the second volume (need to get the first on the cheap); my favorite has to be where they go to Seadonia for their free satellite uplink, talk the skipper into handing them his rifle...and then it hits the skipper why.
Silly popcorny fun with American politics as written by two British men. Not a bad combination. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 31-August 10 Member No.: 18,991 ![]() |
Has anyone mentioned cowboy bebop yet? For me at least it's very shadowrunish (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 328 Joined: 3-March 10 Member No.: 18,233 ![]() |
Cowboy Bebop has been mentioned numerous times. Anime tends to offer the cyber + magic schtick very easy in terms of media. While I used to be a big anime fanboy/otaku, I never saw any series having the gritty/dystopian feel that SR has (or had, depending on your edition & viewpoint).
Certain episodes of Avatar, Last Airbender... guy with metal arm & blew things up with his 3rd eye. The Earth city with the secret service guy brainwashing people. Serenity (aka Firefly the movie). Some episodes of the tv show Sliders. Babylon AD. Children of Men. Doomsday. Avalon, Natural City. I think some of what I have listed has been posted before. I'll double check & edit this later after confirming. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: 21-July 11 Member No.: 33,797 ![]() |
Since someone already mentioned Dirty Dozen, I would add Kelly's Heroes as a great old school shadowrun.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 7-July 08 From: Germany Member No.: 16,124 ![]() |
Then I submit The First Great Train Robbery. My old school is older than your's! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 328 Joined: 3-March 10 Member No.: 18,233 ![]() |
Then I submit The First Great Train Robbery. My old school is older than your's! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) fritz lang metropolis Beat 1927 buddy... |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 ![]() |
OK, Sleeper with Woody Allen.
Ah, but that's made well after 1927, right? It's based on When The Sleeper Awakes by H.G. Wells (1898). |
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 ![]() |
OK, Sleeper with Woody Allen. Ah, but that's made well after 1927, right? It's based on When The Sleeper Awakes by H.G. Wells (1898). Not just an explosives geek, I see, but a Literary geek as well... I am Impressed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 ![]() |
Not just an explosives geek, I see, but a Literary geek as well... I am Impressed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I read at High School level when I was 8, and College level when I was 10.I'd be better read if my so called "Teachers" hadn't taken my books away from me because "It was reading time" and "you have to read the designated book." Moby Dick was ripped out of my hands for My Darling, My Hamburger. Which took me less than two hours to read the previous night. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 328 Joined: 3-March 10 Member No.: 18,233 ![]() |
Would you say Ceaser's Column is also possible as a SR type of novel?
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 ![]() |
I read at High School level when I was 8, and College level when I was 10. I'd be better read if my so called "Teachers" hadn't taken my books away from me because "It was reading time" and "you have to read the designated book." Moby Dick was ripped out of my hands for My Darling, My Hamburger. Which took me less than two hours to read the previous night. I do feel your pain... |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 ![]() |
F***ing ghetto welfare school.
"Why bother teaching the little bastards, they'll just end up on welfare like their parents." was something I heard more than once. I was a sneaky and quiet little SOB. Back to movies before I get angry. |
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