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 Dec 3 2011, 08:35 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 676 Joined: 11-June 10 From: Thunder Bay, ON, Canada Member No.: 18,696  |
QUOTE (deurk @ Dec 3 2011, 12:08 PM)  Rating for credstick is used to represent nuyen put on the credstick. Each rating will cost you 1 nuyen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Question is though, should you be allowed to buy them at character creation. Since you can't take it all with you allowing you do that at higher than 0 rating is a bypass of those rules character creation rules. |
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Dec 3 2011, 09:16 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 296 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Paris, France Member No.: 1,926 |
QUOTE (ShadowWalker @ Dec 3 2011, 09:35 PM) Question is though, should you be allowed to buy them at character creation. Since you can't take it all with you allowing you do that at higher than 0 rating is a bypass of those rules character creation rules. Absolutely agreed on, I've noticed that too way back and forgot to report it. |
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Dec 3 2011, 09:17 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 296 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Paris, France Member No.: 1,926 |
QUOTE (Stalag @ Dec 3 2011, 08:21 PM) Error when trying to save my character with "Mark as Created": Do you run the FR version by any chance and have any item with availability Restricted or Forbidden? |
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Dec 3 2011, 09:22 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,918 Joined: 14-March 11 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 24,349 |
QUOTE (taeksosin @ Dec 2 2011, 10:29 AM) Hey Neb, Think I found an error unless it's in an errata somewhere that I couldn't find. Runner's Companion pg. 86 has the chart of bonuses and negatives for being a certain shifter type. Wolf has normal reach, but in the metatypes.xml file, they show as having a -1 to reach which I'm pretty sure is incorrect. If there's an errata that says your value is correct, then I'll shaddup, but I couldn't find any myself. I assume fixing it in my local version won't break anything when Chummer autoupdates? Edit: Looking closer at the XML, it looks like nearly all the shifter types have reach -1 as their default reach as any metatype (human/elf/ork/dwarf/troll). Edit 2: More looking, it looks like every metatype under each shifter has a reach -1 field. If I'm looking at it right, that should only apply to tiger and lion shifters, since they get a +1 to reach when shifted to animal form, and lose it when a metahuman. Also, bears if I'm reading correctly should keep their +1 reach in and out of animal/metahuman forms. Which gives Bear/Troll shifters stupid amounts of reach, I imagine. As long as you don't modify the version number, you'd be OK. The file is replaced when a newer version is found. I'll have the fixed Metatype file included in today's update. |
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Dec 3 2011, 09:39 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,918 Joined: 14-March 11 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 24,349 |
Build 259
The NPC Save Files have also been updated since a few of them had Holdouts and the HK 227-X, and there was a small errata applied to one of the SR4A example NPCs (added a missing item to their vehicle). |
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Dec 3 2011, 11:46 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 296 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Paris, France Member No.: 1,926 |
Code of Conduct: Bushido is spelled wrong (Bishido).
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Dec 4 2011, 12:03 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 296 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Paris, France Member No.: 1,926 |
Can you allow editing of karma and nuyen expensive amounts?
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Dec 4 2011, 03:09 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 5-April 08 From: Ottawa, Canada Member No.: 15,847 |
I really don't want to be a pain, but I've a suggestion. For game masters making NPCs using this, is there a method for just letting the game master build the NPC by setting values, and letting the program just figure out how much Karma the GM is spending? Rather than 'dump in karma, spend as much as possible, dump in karma, repeat', it'd be nice to just have it set 'freestyle', and you can put in all the values and let it figure out what everything would be in the end.
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Dec 4 2011, 03:52 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
First off: Awesome chargen program. Keep up the good work!
As to what brings me here, I was trying to create a prime runner and some other NPCs for a slightly higher game where most of the awakened PCs have initiated a few times and I noticed a few issues: Adept power ratings over 6 appear to be causing errors when loading the character after having saved it (At least if you close the program and reopen it, then open the saved file). You can tell it to continue through the error and it simply removes the abilities that are over R6 (Great Leap/Free fall as far as I know can go over R6 just fine). Initiation over 6 appears to cause it to wipe the list of initiations and any learned metamagic techniques but they still count as being there and the modified magic attribute remains. If you try and put them back it wants to charge another 15 Karma to do so. I may be wrong but it looks to me like if one of the wiped metamagic techniques is 'additional power point' the power point in question is lost but I'm not sure on this one. Simsense Booster does not appear to be properly stacking with Simsense Accelerator even though the Unwired states they stack when using hot SIM and allow one to go up to 5 matrix initiative passes (The matrix section still registers this combination with a Hot Sim as 4 passes) Would it be possible to allow one to manually mark a weapon modification as part of the base weapon? The option is greyed out but this would provide a fairly easy quick and dirty way to make GM custom versions of the weapons in question to create 'special edition' or 'limited edition' or otherwise custom weapons (Such as weapons that come with metatype size modification as a baseline) rather easily without having to create a whole new custom weapon chummer file. |
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Dec 4 2011, 08:57 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 296 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Paris, France Member No.: 1,926 |
QUOTE (Kesslan @ Dec 4 2011, 04:52 AM) Initiation over 6 appears to cause it to wipe the list of initiations and any learned metamagic techniques but they still count as being there and the modified magic attribute remains. If you try and put them back it wants to charge another 15 Karma to do so. I may be wrong but it looks to me like if one of the wiped metamagic techniques is 'additional power point' the power point in question is lost but I'm not sure on this one. Initiation cannot go over a char's MAG attribute, which is limited to a maximum of 6. |
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Dec 4 2011, 10:26 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 95 Joined: 10-September 11 From: Lyon, FRANCE Member No.: 37,728 |
QUOTE (deurk @ Dec 4 2011, 09:57 AM) Initiation cannot go over a char's MAG attribute, which is limited to a maximum of 6. But the initiation increase the maximum MAG attribute by it's rating. (not the actual attribute like before) So if a character with MAG5 want to initiate, He can go up to rank 5 before having to spend karma to increase his MAG. But at that time, his MAGmax would be 11. Then with some karma, he can increase his MAG and then take more initiation ranks. |
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Dec 4 2011, 01:15 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,090 Joined: 3-October 09 From: Kohle, Stahl und Bier Member No.: 17,709 |
QUOTE (Sengir @ Nov 28 2011, 03:47 PM) [*]A tag in the exported .xml which lists the formula for damage of a melee weapon (e.g. STR/2+3 P), to determine the effect of "on the fly" strength changes Hate to be a pest, but...pretty please? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Dec 4 2011, 04:09 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 1-December 11 From: Murrieta, CA Member No.: 45,075 |
Been using this program for a week now and I gotta say, absolutely love it. It's made my life so much easier. However, in the course of building prime runners and other NPCs to kill...er...uh..."challenge" the party, I've stumbled across a few more bugs.
CODE Expert Defense max rating 3, not 4. Expert Offense missing entirely. Camouflage Netting, Comouflage. Placing anything into Vehicle Sensor on the vehicle page, and then deleting any mods deletes the entire Vehicle Sensor area. Nexi are only handled in the Vehicle section. Would like to have it available in the gear section as well. Armor for vehicles can never exceed twice its body (wasn't sure if you wanted to handle this in the program or leave it to the GM to notice). Armor for drones can never exceed three times its body. (same as above). Can you please allow for Vehicle/Drone linking in the weapons section so the right target's attribute is counted for damage of melee weapons? Giving a drone (or a vehicle modified to be a drone) a sword requires modification of the html file after the character's exported. Can you please allow for editting of customized information (such as with spare clips or custom lifestyle names) within the program? Can you please allow for movement of gear plugins within gear? Encountered an error (not sure if it's repeatable) where Weapons weren't movable. I think it had to do with the number of weapons on the character, but I saved and reloaded Chummer and the bug stopped. Could just be random. Can you add for something for Leased vehicles from Runner's companion? Can you add something for Stacked foci from Street Magic? Can you allow for special modifiers for gear/vehicles to be trackable after it's been added to the character? Heavily modifying a vehicle and then turning around and trying to make it the same way on a used vehicle instead is quite a hassle. Same with programs/agents. Can you make the rating for Customized Cyberarm attributes changeable after being added to vehicles? Once added, the rating of this cyberware upgrade can no longer be changed (not sure if it's the same way with other mods). "Hacked" programs cause an error in the filesave that when opened causes the program to not want to read the rest of the character's info. I see the irony...but still would like a fix :P If I come across any more I'll be sure to post. Quite a few of these are more for ease of use, but there are still some valid errors in there. Thanks again for this amazing program! |
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Dec 5 2011, 03:07 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,918 Joined: 14-March 11 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 24,349 |
QUOTE (Kesslan @ Dec 3 2011, 09:52 PM) First off: Awesome chargen program. Keep up the good work! As to what brings me here, I was trying to create a prime runner and some other NPCs for a slightly higher game where most of the awakened PCs have initiated a few times and I noticed a few issues: Adept power ratings over 6 appear to be causing errors when loading the character after having saved it (At least if you close the program and reopen it, then open the saved file). You can tell it to continue through the error and it simply removes the abilities that are over R6 (Great Leap/Free fall as far as I know can go over R6 just fine). Initiation over 6 appears to cause it to wipe the list of initiations and any learned metamagic techniques but they still count as being there and the modified magic attribute remains. If you try and put them back it wants to charge another 15 Karma to do so. I may be wrong but it looks to me like if one of the wiped metamagic techniques is 'additional power point' the power point in question is lost but I'm not sure on this one. Simsense Booster does not appear to be properly stacking with Simsense Accelerator even though the Unwired states they stack when using hot SIM and allow one to go up to 5 matrix initiative passes (The matrix section still registers this combination with a Hot Sim as 4 passes) Would it be possible to allow one to manually mark a weapon modification as part of the base weapon? The option is greyed out but this would provide a fairly easy quick and dirty way to make GM custom versions of the weapons in question to create 'special edition' or 'limited edition' or otherwise custom weapons (Such as weapons that come with metatype size modification as a baseline) rather easily without having to create a whole new custom weapon chummer file. I'll have the Adept Power/Initiation issue fixed in the next update. The problem was that as soon as you have a single Power at Rating 7, it freaks out and fails to load all of the other Powers and Initiation information. So all of that data is still there, it just never gets around to loading it because the failure cascades through the rest of the loading process. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) Simsense Booster and Simsense Accelerator were updated to allow their bonuses to stack in the last update, so that should be working properly now. If you already have them added to a character, you'll need to remove and re-add them since the application records the bonuses they receive when they're applied. I'll take a look at the manual Weapon Mod one. I don't think it will be a big deal, but some times code changes are much more complicated than one would think they should be. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Dec 5 2011, 03:09 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,918 Joined: 14-March 11 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 24,349 |
QUOTE (Sengir @ Dec 4 2011, 07:15 AM) Hate to be a pest, but...pretty please? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I might have missed this from one of your other posts. I'll include this in the next update. Weapons in the printout XML will include a <rawdamage /> tag which will be the Weapon's damage formula. |
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Dec 5 2011, 03:21 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,918 Joined: 14-March 11 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 24,349 |
QUOTE (Cojuzei @ Dec 4 2011, 10:09 AM) Been using this program for a week now and I gotta say, absolutely love it. It's made my life so much easier. However, in the course of building prime runners and other NPCs to kill...er...uh..."challenge" the party, I've stumbled across a few more bugs. CODE Expert Defense max rating 3, not 4. Expert Offense missing entirely. Camouflage Netting, Comouflage. Nexi are only handled in the Vehicle section. Would like to have it available in the gear section as well. I've updated the Gear file to correct the Rating for Expert Defense and add the missing Expert Offense item. What are you referring to when you say "Camouflage netting, Camouflage"? This is already in the Gear section... Nexi are currently available in Gear. Click the arrow on the Add Gear button on the Gear tag and you should see Add Nexus as the last item in the pop-out menu. I'll add these other items to my list o' stuff. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Dec 5 2011, 04:56 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 1-December 11 From: Murrieta, CA Member No.: 45,075 |
QUOTE (Nebular @ Dec 5 2011, 07:21 AM) What are you referring to when you say "Camouflage netting, Camouflage"? This is already in the Gear section... You have both. Comouflage and Camouflage. Comouflage references the 5Y/sq m item in WAR (163), but is still spelled incorrectly. Perhaps instead of comouflage, write in the difference between the two? For example, instead of having comouflage netting and camouflage netting, make it camouflage netting (10 sq m) and camouflage netting (per sq m). The item is a bit redundant, and really it just boils down to an annoying spelling error. |
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Dec 6 2011, 01:38 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 1-December 11 From: Murrieta, CA Member No.: 45,075 |
I also noticed that the AK-147 has an RC of 2 in Chummer, but a 1 in the book.
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Dec 6 2011, 01:54 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 268 Joined: 2-September 11 Member No.: 37,159 |
QUOTE (deurk @ Dec 3 2011, 04:17 PM) Do you run the FR version by any chance and have any item with availability Restricted or Forbidden? No to the FR version - but this is a character I started in an older build so it's possible I picked something that later became invalid. I'll check that, thanks. |
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Dec 6 2011, 05:33 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 1-December 11 From: Murrieta, CA Member No.: 45,075 |
Also noticed, AI seems to be adding the Ergonomic and Optimization qualities to all programs, not just the ones marked Free. Far as I can tell AI only get up to their rating in free programs, no free hardware or other bits of software. Not really a big deal since the delete button still works, but I figured it was worth mentioning. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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Dec 6 2011, 06:59 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 1-December 11 From: Murrieta, CA Member No.: 45,075 |
Noticed another possible issue. I'm not seeing where it says System/Firewall has an availability, but Chummer lists it as having the same as hardware. Am I missing something?
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Dec 7 2011, 04:23 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,918 Joined: 14-March 11 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 24,349 |
QUOTE (Cojuzei @ Dec 6 2011, 12:59 PM) Noticed another possible issue. I'm not seeing where it says System/Firewall has an availability, but Chummer lists it as having the same as hardware. Am I missing something? System/Firewall Rating 1 - 6 in the Commlink Operating System Upgrade Category should have an Avail of 0, while 7 - 10 should be high Forbidden values. Looks like I missed changing these. I've updated the Gear file to correct this. |
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Dec 7 2011, 04:27 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,918 Joined: 14-March 11 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 24,349 |
QUOTE (Cojuzei @ Dec 5 2011, 07:38 PM) I also noticed that the AK-147 has an RC of 2 in Chummer, but a 1 in the book. The AK-147 in the book has an RC of 1(2). Chummer calculates the Weapon's RC value based on all of the Accessories and Mods that you have installed and shows only the total number. When you first purchase a Weapon, all of the Accessories and Mods that come with it are marked as installed, so the AK-147 will show its RC as 2. If you mark the Stock as being not install, RC drops to 1. There's no point in showing what a Weapon's base and maximum RC are for all of its options since it knows what is installed; this means the player doesn't need to do the math and figure out the Weapon's RC based on what is currently equipped - the app takes care of it and tells you the RC based on what is currently installed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Dec 7 2011, 07:37 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,918 Joined: 14-March 11 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 24,349 |
QUOTE (Cojuzei @ Dec 4 2011, 10:09 AM) CODE "Hacked" programs cause an error in the filesave that when opened causes the program to not want to read the rest of the character's info. I see the irony...but still would like a fix :P I can't seem to reproduce this using any combination I've tried. Are you still having this issue? If so, could you email me an affected save file so I can see what might be causing the problem? (nebular@shaw.ca) |
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Dec 7 2011, 10:44 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,918 Joined: 14-March 11 From: Calgary, AB Member No.: 24,349 |
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