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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,168 Joined: 15-April 05 From: Helsinki, Finland Member No.: 7,337 ![]() |
QUOTE Their biggest drawback is their innate bestial nature and the problems this will cause in metahuman society. They have no understanding of metahuman laws, social conventions, and the like unless they acquire the approperiate social and knowledge skills - and even then, the metahuman way of doing things won't be their first instinct. I have fun playing this up with Kael(my bear Elven shifter adept-well kinda mystic adept but he's got some nice crunchy adept powers.) It takes people getting used to the fact that sometimes, he just wants to go...well, be a bear in the woods. And after ripping enemies to shreds in his bear form it's all he can do if he hasn't eaten that day not to have a nom, but he tries to sorta fight that. If teammates are around. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) He doesn't take his bear form in public(in the way that ''if there are potentially any cameras...or survivors.'') But given that he's still as strong as his giant Kodiak form in his elven form it's not like he needs to all the time. But balancing the two out is a pretty fun role-play challenge, as is learning things the more metahuman way. He had a mentor thankfully so he can read, write, speak well and all of that, but he is still fairly 'blank' when it comes to certain things. |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,665 Joined: 26-April 03 From: Sweden Member No.: 4,516 ![]() |
I have fun playing this up with Kael(my bear Elven shifter adept-well kinda mystic adept but he's got some nice crunchy adept powers.) It takes people getting used to the fact that sometimes, he just wants to go...well, be a bear in the woods. And after ripping enemies to shreds in his bear form it's all he can do if he hasn't eaten that day not to have a nom, but he tries to sorta fight that. If teammates are around. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) He doesn't take his bear form in public(in the way that ''if there are potentially any cameras...or survivors.'') But given that he's still as strong as his giant Kodiak form in his elven form it's not like he needs to all the time. But balancing the two out is a pretty fun role-play challenge, as is learning things the more metahuman way. He had a mentor thankfully so he can read, write, speak well and all of that, but he is still fairly 'blank' when it comes to certain things. Sounds very much like the Jaguar shifter adept assassin in the group I GM for (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 ![]() |
It takes people getting used to the fact that sometimes, he just wants to go...well, be a bear in the woods. Bear Who Walks Through Walls was constantly on the lookout for food. He dug into a bunker where there was a hacker we needed to enforce dumpshock on (and open a gate) and the bear went strait for the fridge. My character (the semi-hacker) went in behind and actually dealt with the hacker* and the computers. *Yoinked all his cables out, he took dumpshock, saw the bear, and ran screaming for the hills. |
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,168 Joined: 15-April 05 From: Helsinki, Finland Member No.: 7,337 ![]() |
Bear Who Walks Through Walls was constantly on the lookout for food. He dug into a bunker where there was a hacker we needed to enforce dumpshock on (and open a gate) and the bear went strait for the fridge. My character (the semi-hacker) went in behind and actually dealt with the hacker* and the computers. *Yoinked all his cables out, he took dumpshock, saw the bear, and ran screaming for the hills. Now, Bear Who Walks Through Walls was the total pacifist, correct? That had to be interesting. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 ![]() |
Now, Bear Who Walks Through Walls was the total pacifist, correct? That had to be interesting. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) Bear raided the guy's minifridge. |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 ![]() |
There are so many ways of taking down shifters it isnt even funny anymore.
Think about it. 1.Fire Incendiary Grenades Yes, you heal the damage and your fur grow out...and keeps feeding the flames so you burn even more as your regenerating ability keeps adding fuel to the flames. 2.Electricity Stick'N'Shock/Tazers/Drone Theft Protection Electro Shock (S10 Stun) Put em to sleep and then douse them with whatever seems useful. 3.Allergies Right, a little more difficult as Silver is a bit expensive - But all you need is to hit with ONE shot at a +6 to damage. Silver Bullets Silver Nitrate Solution (Squirt Gun?) Silver Nitrate Splash Grenade 4.Magic No Regenerate (I'd suggest fireball since their fur would burn) 5.Animal Instinct Knowledge is half the battle, people with animal knowledge of the shifter in question should get some advantage in knowing their instinctive behavior - And no, a ball of yarn thrown against a Cat Shifter wont do a thing. 6.Other Gear Splash Grenades with Irritants (Pepper Punch, Nausea Gas, FAB III). Injection vector attacks with FAB III (Dart Guns) |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 ![]() |
5.Animal Instinct Knowledge is half the battle, people with animal knowledge of the shifter in question should get some advantage in knowing their instinctive behavior - And no, a ball of yarn thrown against a Cat Shifter wont do a thing. Keeping in mind that this works with some people as well. There's a reason I'm diagnosed ADOS. Attention Deficit--Oooh Shiny. |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 ![]() |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 ![]() |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 ![]() |
Ditto on that. I don't mesh with Real People well. Yup, my horde of imaginary fanboys and ghost friends are so much better - not to mention the voices in my head. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 ![]() |
Yup, my horde of imaginary fanboys and ghost friends are so much better - not to mention the voices in my head. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif) Nah, I got none of those. But it's soooo much easier to deal with stupid people when you can just eat them and be done with it. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 386 Joined: 27-February 12 From: Nebraska, USA Member No.: 50,732 ![]() |
Nah, I got none of those. But it's soooo much easier to deal with stupid people when you can just eat them and be done with it. Seconded! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,665 Joined: 26-April 03 From: Sweden Member No.: 4,516 ![]() |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 ![]() |
You don't need to be a 'shifter for that, you know... Just a cannibalistic troll with the following: Suprathyroid Gland Corrosive Spit Metagenic Quality Fangs metagenic Quality Ogre Stomach Metagenic Quality Dark Secret (Cannibal) Mr.Munchy the troll works for the mob, he disposes of troublesome people but nobody knows exactly how he does is since they seem to just dissappear... |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 ![]() |
Just a cannibalistic troll with the following: Suprathyroid Gland Corrosive Spit Metagenic Quality Fangs metagenic Quality Ogre Stomach Metagenic Quality Dark Secret (Cannibal) Mr.Munchy the troll works for the mob, he disposes of troublesome people but nobody knows exactly how he does is since they seem to just dissappear... Or, you know, a ghoul. |
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 22-January 07 From: Rochester, NY Member No.: 10,737 ![]() |
But a ghoul has no choice. Sure, they're creepy, but they're a known creepy. A guy who chooses to be a cannibal, because he likes the taste? Much creepier (and therefore more interesting as an antagonistic, named NPC)
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 ![]() |
But a ghoul has no choice. Sure, they're creepy, but they're a known creepy. A guy who chooses to be a cannibal, because he likes the taste? Much creepier (and therefore more interesting as an antagonistic, named NPC) You mean a Blood Adept? I see a million (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) right there. |
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 ![]() |
You mean a Blood Adept? I see a million (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) right there. Why does he have to be a magically awakened character? Creepy enough with just a normal Joe Schmoe. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 ![]() |
Because the Awakened are IMO the most likely to do that, unless you like putting people with severe mental issues in the world at random. Not only that, people with severe, illegal mental issues who would be arrested fast.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 587 Joined: 27-January 07 From: United States Member No.: 10,812 ![]() |
Indeed. Troll Bear Shifter, under your rules: 11/17 body | 1/3 agi | 1/5 rea | 11/17 str | 1/4 cha | 1/4 int | 1/4 log | 1/5 wil 3 agility, if you hardmax it? Plus low mental stats and reaction. He'd be able to take damage like crazy, but wouldn't be able to do much of anything. |
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 ![]() |
Because the Awakened are IMO the most likely to do that, unless you like putting people with severe mental issues in the world at random. Not only that, people with severe, illegal mental issues who would be arrested fast. And yet there are people who are cannibals today. *shrug* (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) What makes an Awakened "More Likely" in your opinion, as I do not see it. |
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 ![]() |
3 agility, if you hardmax it? Plus low mental stats and reaction. He'd be able to take damage like crazy, but wouldn't be able to do much of anything. 3 is average. and Mentals of 4 are above average. I see no limitations here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 664 Joined: 26-September 11 Member No.: 39,030 ![]() |
The Troll Bear Shifter with the low agility isn't really the biggest problem, because melee isn't usually the best option in game and he's going to have trouble hitting anyone with a little bit of dodge. So being able to soak damage and punch things hard isn't a disproportionate threat.
The problem is if you stack Troll Tiger Shifter stats. 8/13 Body | 4/9 Agi | 2/7 Rea | 7/12 Str | 1/4 Cha | 1/4 Int | 1/4 Log | 1/5 Wil Now you've got a damage sponge which is also super agile, slightly harder to hit, and really strong. |
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Prime Runner Ascendant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 ![]() |
The Troll Bear Shifter with the low agility isn't really the biggest problem, because melee isn't usually the best option in game and he's going to have trouble hitting anyone with a little bit of dodge. So being able to soak damage and punch things hard isn't a disproportionate threat. The problem is if you stack Troll Tiger Shifter stats. 8/13 Body | 4/9 Agi | 2/7 Rea | 7/12 Str | 1/4 Cha | 1/4 Int | 1/4 Log | 1/5 Wil Now you've got a damage sponge which is also super agile, slightly harder to hit, and really strong. Looks like a typical Troll Street Sam to me... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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