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Draco18s
post Apr 14 2012, 05:22 AM
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QUOTE (Udoshi @ Apr 13 2012, 08:17 PM) *
The main component of this hilarity is Shattering Blow, the adept power.


Quite.
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post Apr 14 2012, 11:32 AM
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Their biggest drawback is their innate bestial nature and the problems this will cause in metahuman society. They have no understanding of metahuman laws, social conventions, and the like unless they acquire the approperiate social and knowledge skills - and even then, the metahuman way of doing things won't be their first instinct.


I have fun playing this up with Kael(my bear Elven shifter adept-well kinda mystic adept but he's got some nice crunchy adept powers.) It takes people getting used to the fact that sometimes, he just wants to go...well, be a bear in the woods. And after ripping enemies to shreds in his bear form it's all he can do if he hasn't eaten that day not to have a nom, but he tries to sorta fight that.

If teammates are around. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) He doesn't take his bear form in public(in the way that ''if there are potentially any cameras...or survivors.'') But given that he's still as strong as his giant Kodiak form in his elven form it's not like he needs to all the time. But balancing the two out is a pretty fun role-play challenge, as is learning things the more metahuman way. He had a mentor thankfully so he can read, write, speak well and all of that, but he is still fairly 'blank' when it comes to certain things.

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post Apr 14 2012, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE (ElFenrir @ Apr 14 2012, 01:32 PM) *
I have fun playing this up with Kael(my bear Elven shifter adept-well kinda mystic adept but he's got some nice crunchy adept powers.) It takes people getting used to the fact that sometimes, he just wants to go...well, be a bear in the woods. And after ripping enemies to shreds in his bear form it's all he can do if he hasn't eaten that day not to have a nom, but he tries to sorta fight that.

If teammates are around. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) He doesn't take his bear form in public(in the way that ''if there are potentially any cameras...or survivors.'') But given that he's still as strong as his giant Kodiak form in his elven form it's not like he needs to all the time. But balancing the two out is a pretty fun role-play challenge, as is learning things the more metahuman way. He had a mentor thankfully so he can read, write, speak well and all of that, but he is still fairly 'blank' when it comes to certain things.

Sounds very much like the Jaguar shifter adept assassin in the group I GM for (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 14 2012, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE (ElFenrir @ Apr 14 2012, 06:32 AM) *
It takes people getting used to the fact that sometimes, he just wants to go...well, be a bear in the woods.


Bear Who Walks Through Walls was constantly on the lookout for food. He dug into a bunker where there was a hacker we needed to enforce dumpshock on (and open a gate) and the bear went strait for the fridge. My character (the semi-hacker) went in behind and actually dealt with the hacker* and the computers.

*Yoinked all his cables out, he took dumpshock, saw the bear, and ran screaming for the hills.
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post Apr 14 2012, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 14 2012, 05:42 PM) *
Bear Who Walks Through Walls was constantly on the lookout for food. He dug into a bunker where there was a hacker we needed to enforce dumpshock on (and open a gate) and the bear went strait for the fridge. My character (the semi-hacker) went in behind and actually dealt with the hacker* and the computers.

*Yoinked all his cables out, he took dumpshock, saw the bear, and ran screaming for the hills.


Now, Bear Who Walks Through Walls was the total pacifist, correct? That had to be interesting. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)
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post Apr 14 2012, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE (ElFenrir @ Apr 14 2012, 06:23 PM) *
Now, Bear Who Walks Through Walls was the total pacifist, correct? That had to be interesting. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)


Bear raided the guy's minifridge.
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post Apr 16 2012, 01:01 PM
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There are so many ways of taking down shifters it isnt even funny anymore.

Think about it.

1.Fire
Incendiary Grenades
Yes, you heal the damage and your fur grow out...and keeps feeding the flames so you burn even more as your regenerating ability keeps adding fuel to the flames.

2.Electricity
Stick'N'Shock/Tazers/Drone Theft Protection Electro Shock (S10 Stun)
Put em to sleep and then douse them with whatever seems useful.

3.Allergies
Right, a little more difficult as Silver is a bit expensive - But all you need is to hit with ONE shot at a +6 to damage.

Silver Bullets
Silver Nitrate Solution (Squirt Gun?)
Silver Nitrate Splash Grenade

4.Magic
No Regenerate (I'd suggest fireball since their fur would burn)

5.Animal Instinct
Knowledge is half the battle, people with animal knowledge of the shifter in question should get some advantage in knowing their instinctive behavior - And no, a ball of yarn thrown against a Cat Shifter wont do a thing.

6.Other Gear
Splash Grenades with Irritants (Pepper Punch, Nausea Gas, FAB III). Injection vector attacks with FAB III (Dart Guns)
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post Apr 16 2012, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE (The Jopp @ Apr 16 2012, 08:01 AM) *
5.Animal Instinct
Knowledge is half the battle, people with animal knowledge of the shifter in question should get some advantage in knowing their instinctive behavior - And no, a ball of yarn thrown against a Cat Shifter wont do a thing.


Keeping in mind that this works with some people as well.

There's a reason I'm diagnosed ADOS.

Attention Deficit--Oooh Shiny.
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post Apr 16 2012, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 16 2012, 04:26 PM) *
Keeping in mind that this works with some people as well.

There's a reason I'm diagnosed ADOS.

Attention Deficit--Oooh Shiny.


Yea, im suspecting that I have ADD and perhaps a small bit of Aspergers
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post Apr 16 2012, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (The Jopp @ Apr 16 2012, 10:52 AM) *
and perhaps a small bit of Aspergers


Ditto on that. I don't mesh with Real People well.
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post Apr 16 2012, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 16 2012, 04:06 PM) *
Ditto on that. I don't mesh with Real People well.


Yup, my horde of imaginary fanboys and ghost friends are so much better - not to mention the voices in my head. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)
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post Apr 16 2012, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE (The Jopp @ Apr 16 2012, 02:20 PM) *
Yup, my horde of imaginary fanboys and ghost friends are so much better - not to mention the voices in my head. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)


Nah, I got none of those. But it's soooo much easier to deal with stupid people when you can just eat them and be done with it.
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post Apr 16 2012, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 16 2012, 02:30 PM) *
Nah, I got none of those. But it's soooo much easier to deal with stupid people when you can just eat them and be done with it.


Seconded! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 17 2012, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE (Draco18s @ Apr 16 2012, 10:30 PM) *
Nah, I got none of those. But it's soooo much easier to deal with stupid people when you can just eat them and be done with it.


You don't need to be a 'shifter for that, you know...
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post Apr 17 2012, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE (snowRaven @ Apr 17 2012, 10:25 AM) *
You don't need to be a 'shifter for that, you know...


Just a cannibalistic troll with the following:
Suprathyroid Gland
Corrosive Spit Metagenic Quality
Fangs metagenic Quality
Ogre Stomach Metagenic Quality
Dark Secret (Cannibal)

Mr.Munchy the troll works for the mob, he disposes of troublesome people but nobody knows exactly how he does is since they seem to just dissappear...
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post Apr 17 2012, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE (The Jopp @ Apr 17 2012, 05:05 AM) *
Just a cannibalistic troll with the following:
Suprathyroid Gland
Corrosive Spit Metagenic Quality
Fangs metagenic Quality
Ogre Stomach Metagenic Quality
Dark Secret (Cannibal)

Mr.Munchy the troll works for the mob, he disposes of troublesome people but nobody knows exactly how he does is since they seem to just dissappear...

Or, you know, a ghoul.
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post Apr 17 2012, 11:16 PM
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But a ghoul has no choice. Sure, they're creepy, but they're a known creepy. A guy who chooses to be a cannibal, because he likes the taste? Much creepier (and therefore more interesting as an antagonistic, named NPC)
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post Apr 18 2012, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE (bibliophile20 @ Apr 17 2012, 06:16 PM) *
But a ghoul has no choice. Sure, they're creepy, but they're a known creepy. A guy who chooses to be a cannibal, because he likes the taste? Much creepier (and therefore more interesting as an antagonistic, named NPC)

You mean a Blood Adept? I see a million (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) right there.
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post Apr 18 2012, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE (Neraph @ Apr 18 2012, 08:30 AM) *
You mean a Blood Adept? I see a million (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) right there.


Why does he have to be a magically awakened character? Creepy enough with just a normal Joe Schmoe. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 18 2012, 03:15 PM
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Because the Awakened are IMO the most likely to do that, unless you like putting people with severe mental issues in the world at random. Not only that, people with severe, illegal mental issues who would be arrested fast.
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post Apr 18 2012, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE (Halinn @ Apr 13 2012, 04:19 PM) *
Indeed.
Troll Bear Shifter, under your rules:
11/17 body | 1/3 agi | 1/5 rea | 11/17 str | 1/4 cha | 1/4 int | 1/4 log | 1/5 wil


3 agility, if you hardmax it? Plus low mental stats and reaction. He'd be able to take damage like crazy, but wouldn't be able to do much of anything.
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post Apr 18 2012, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (Neraph @ Apr 18 2012, 09:15 AM) *
Because the Awakened are IMO the most likely to do that, unless you like putting people with severe mental issues in the world at random. Not only that, people with severe, illegal mental issues who would be arrested fast.


And yet there are people who are cannibals today. *shrug* (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
What makes an Awakened "More Likely" in your opinion, as I do not see it.
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QUOTE (Iduno @ Apr 18 2012, 09:36 AM) *
3 agility, if you hardmax it? Plus low mental stats and reaction. He'd be able to take damage like crazy, but wouldn't be able to do much of anything.


3 is average. and Mentals of 4 are above average. I see no limitations here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 18 2012, 03:58 PM
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The Troll Bear Shifter with the low agility isn't really the biggest problem, because melee isn't usually the best option in game and he's going to have trouble hitting anyone with a little bit of dodge. So being able to soak damage and punch things hard isn't a disproportionate threat.

The problem is if you stack Troll Tiger Shifter stats.

8/13 Body | 4/9 Agi | 2/7 Rea | 7/12 Str | 1/4 Cha | 1/4 Int | 1/4 Log | 1/5 Wil

Now you've got a damage sponge which is also super agile, slightly harder to hit, and really strong.
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QUOTE (thorya @ Apr 18 2012, 09:58 AM) *
The Troll Bear Shifter with the low agility isn't really the biggest problem, because melee isn't usually the best option in game and he's going to have trouble hitting anyone with a little bit of dodge. So being able to soak damage and punch things hard isn't a disproportionate threat.

The problem is if you stack Troll Tiger Shifter stats.

8/13 Body | 4/9 Agi | 2/7 Rea | 7/12 Str | 1/4 Cha | 1/4 Int | 1/4 Log | 1/5 Wil

Now you've got a damage sponge which is also super agile, slightly harder to hit, and really strong.


Looks like a typical Troll Street Sam to me... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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